Ravens v Browns MNF Fraud Bowl Thread

[Megatron96]

Kareem Hunt might be the best goal-line RB I've ever seen. Jesus Christ.

[notorious]

If Cleveland misses the XP.....

[Buehler445]

Kareem got a pink belly.

[comochiefsfan]

I like CEH....

But he’s no Kareem.

[KC_Connection]

It's time to bring Hunt back...could you imagine him and CEH? ****.....
He's a monster, bring him home.

[eDave]

If Cleveland misses the XP.....

Shush!

[MahomesMagic]

Playoff football!!

[Pitt Gorilla]

Kareem Hunt!!!!!!

“Totally not worth it.”

[mililo4cpa]

Very entertaining game.....this has had it all....

[Megatron96]

Watch this mutt miss.

[DRM08]

lol...any faith in Mr. Poopy-Pants leading a game winning drive?

Maybe better question of whether the Cleveland Poop-stains can stop him from shitting all over their defense

[Rain Man]

I bet Parkey was hoping they wouldn't score.

[htismaqe]

It's crazy how people stereotype teams based on the bias towards a QB like Mayfield, or the teams history.

The Browns are currently 9-3 and could have two 1000 yard rushers, and we are absolutely trash against the run.

Oh, and we have some really weak interior offensive line play, and they have a DPOY candidate in Garrett.

To be so dismissive is just foolish. Like I said in another thread, people acted the same way about the Raiders who beat us once, and nearly beat us twice.

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Dude, the Browns aren't as good as the Titans were last year. How did that end?

You're enamored with their running game. This isn't 1988, they're not scary.

Sure, they could beat the Chiefs. But you act like they're some kind of juggernaut. That's just silly.

[comochiefsfan]

Just imagine.

If Kareem wasn’t a fucking imbecile, we’d almost certainly be rampaging towards a 3 peat right now.

[eDave]

Dude looked timid seting up that kick

[htismaqe]

It's time to bring Hunt back...could you imagine him and CEH? Fuck.....

ROFL

[KChiefs1]

Does Griese really think Lamarvelous is hurt???????

[Saleenman607]

DEFENSE .... LMAO

[DaFace]

I can't lie. I miss Kareem.

[mr. tegu]

I’m not one to continually worry about not having Hunt, but I don’t think CEH is anywhere close to him as a receiver like we were expecting.

[suzzer99]

I miss Kareem

[Megatron96]

Okay, I admit it, I miss Kareem Hunt.

[mililo4cpa]

Maybe better question of whether the Cleveland Poop-stains can stop him from shitting all over their defense

it's very much the immovable object v. the unstoppable force.....

Not unlike Lamar's bowels early in the 4th....

[ChiefsFanatic]

Kareem Hunt might be the best goal-line RB I've ever seen. Jesus Christ.The only RB that I have ever seen with better hips and balance is Barry Sanders.

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[FloridaMan88]

That is a good passing game for Lamar’s standards.

[dirk digler]

Best game of the year

[TribalElder]

not sure 1 minute is enough time to run down the field far enough for a field goal

[KChiefs1]

I can't lie. I miss Kareem.


We all miss him.

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[notorious]

Is Cleveland's defense going to clog up the middle?

[Megatron96]

GET. A. STOP. CHRIST.

[louie aguiar]

I like CEH....

But he’s no Kareem.

Yep, unfortunately I agree. CEH is a nice back but we could really use a back like Hunt.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Listen, everyone here knows you're a piece of shit with zero integrity. Thankfully the Chiefs aren't anything like your pathetic ass.

LMAO

[eDave]

not sure 1 minute is enough time to run down the field far enough for a field goal

Not by running and 1 timeout.

[KChiefs1]

Justin Tucker is going to win this game.

[petegz28]

I can't lie. I miss Kareem.

Dude you have both him and CEH that would be so deadly. Both are similar in that they can both catch the ball well, both run hard and both don't go down easy. Just Hunt is a bit more of a bruiser and CEH is a little quicker.

Either way it would just make an already sick offense just plain well...sicker

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Fun game.

[KC_Connection]

Yep Browns scored way too quick. This game is coming down to Tucker's leg.

[louie aguiar]

Justin Tucker is going to win this game.

Certainly feels that way. He can boot it.

[Buehler445]

Dude, the Browns aren't as good as the Titans were last year. How did that end?

You're enamored with their running game. This isn't 1988, they're not scary.

Sure, they could beat the Chiefs. But you act like they're some kind of juggernaut. That's just silly.

Can you imagine the browns d try to get a stop against Mahomes?

[jerryaldini]

Browns are screwed

[eDave]

Yep Browns scored way too quick. This game is coming down to Tucker's leg.

You score when you can because it's hard to do.

[FloridaMan88]

Pick 6 or Lamar fumble... make it happen Cleveland.

[Megatron96]

Not by running and 1 timeout.

True. No TOs, now they have to throw to the edges.

[notorious]

Put some time on the clock.

[KC_Connection]

Can you imagine the browns d try to get a stop against Mahomes?
The Browns are an embarrassment. Not sure how anybody watching this game would conclude differently.

[comochiefsfan]

Dude you have both him and CEH that would be so deadly. Both are similar in that they can both catch the ball well, both run hard and both don't go down easy. Just Hunt is a bit more of a bruiser and CEH is a little quicker.

Either way it would just make an already sick offense just plain well...sicker

I mean if Kareem wasn’t a moron it would’ve given us the luxury of not having to spend a first round pick on CEH.

[TribalElder]

ravens winning should push the patriots out of the playoffs and the raiders too almost

[notorious]

What's with the shitty spot?

[jerryaldini]

56

[Megatron96]

NOONAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Rain Man]

Why are they positioning the ball for a 55 yard field goal? Move it forward a few yards at least.

[tk13]

That short pass wasn't worth it. Gonna be 4th down now.

[htismaqe]

I mean if Kareem wasn’t a moron it would’ve given us the luxury of not having to spend a first round pick on CEH.

Exactly.

[Easy 6]

Tuckers gonna wrap this up...

[notorious]

ravens winning should push the patriots out of the playoffs and the raiders too almost

DO IT

[Megatron96]

FUCK.

[TribalElder]

this is likely going to ot right?

[KChiefs1]

Justin Tucker is awesome.

[tk13]

Assassin.

[dirk digler]

That would have been good from 65

[eDave]

Nice kick. Scored too fast.

[Rain Man]

Cleveland still has two seconds. Give it to Kareem.

[DRM08]

Questionable clock management to finish, but Tucker bailed 'em out. Well done Tucker!

[Coach]

this is likely going to ot right?

Nope.

[notorious]

The Raid and Pats are DONE.

[jerryaldini]

Tucker crazy good

[KC_Connection]

You score when you can because it's hard to do.
Not in this game with these shitty defenses it wasn't. Ravens won because they gave em too much time.

[mililo4cpa]

lol....Tucker is about as automatic as it comes....

[LiveSteam]

Like I said.
I HATE BALTIMORE!

[TribalElder]

shit he got them ROFL

fuck you patriots
fuck you raiders

[New World Order]

Have a feeling we see Balt in the second round

[eDave]

Not in this game with these shitty defenses it wasn't. Ravens won because they gave em too much time.

Sure but was Kareem supposed to take a dive?

[mililo4cpa]

Lamar looking light on his feet jumping around like that....

[KC_Connection]

The Raid and Pats are DONE.
That's a shame.

[TribalElder]

ripped the hearts out of the cleveland fans and showed it to them all

[Pitt Gorilla]

I mean if Kareem wasn’t a moron it would’ve given us the luxury of not having to spend a first round pick on CEH.

The Browns, smartly, didn’t GAF.

[PattyFlakes]

Scored way too quickly and gave the Ravens more than enough time to get in range for Tucker to win it. Browns gonna Brown.

[ptlyon]

The same ol factory of sadness

[Megatron96]

Welp. Baker can throw it pretty far. 65+ at least.

[mililo4cpa]

Have a feeling we see Balt in the second round

sure hope so!

[TribalElder]

let baker throw a hail mary out of the endzone

[KC_Connection]

Sure but was Kareem supposed to take a dive?
No. But if he goes down at the 1, they surely win that game.

[TribalElder]

ROFL Lamar Jackson left the game and took a shit, came back and beat the browns ROFL

[ptlyon]

I wonder what that shit sounded like to the assistant that was in the room

[Megatron96]

Or do that silly shit.

[Easy 6]

Just blow the whistle on this bullshit already LMAO

[Rain Man]

Five points in the last seven seconds.

[htismaqe]

No. But if he goes down at the 1, they surely win that game.

Not if they don't score. If he goes down at the 1 and they fumble on the next play, the game is over.

Seriously, this isn't Madden.

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Holy shit the spread was 3.5 LMAO

[notorious]

That insanity probably lost someone a lot of money.

[FloridaMan88]

Cleveland was +3, bad beat.

[eDave]

Wait, what?

[Megatron96]

I feel robbed. That game should've gone into OT.

[TribalElder]

that was fucking dumb way to end it

[Johnny Vegas]

End with a safety WTF THIS GAME LMAO

[ROYC75]

LOL, a circle jerk ending!

[notorious]

Holy shit the spread was 3.5 LMAO

OH MOTHER OF GOD!!!


ROFL ROFL ROFL

[DRM08]

Lamar acting like he won the Super Bowl. It's the Browns, Lamar. Lulz

[KC_Connection]

Not if they don't score. If he goes down at the 1 and they fumble on the next play, the game is over.

Seriously, this isn't Madden.
Why is why I said "No." Did you miss that part?

[pugsnotdrugs19]

The Raiders playoff chances just shrunk to near nothing.

[htismaqe]

Holy shit the spread was 3.5 LMAO

ROFL

[Rain Man]

Holy shit the spread was 3.5 LMAO

That's awesome.

[Megatron96]

Holy shit the spread was 3.5 LMAO

LMAO

That's awesome.

[mr. tegu]

No. But if he goes down at the 1, they surely win that game.


They got to the twenty with like a minute to go and acted like they only had time for one of two plays, snapping the ball too quick and not draining the clock at all. It was really bad.

[mililo4cpa]

Baker and LJ shaking hands on the field like real sportsmen....

I hope LJ washed his hands...

[TribalElder]

Did that safety impact the ravens covering?

everytime I see points at the end that don't matter I figure it's due to the gambling implecations

there was the shit hand shake ROFL

wipe your mouth now baker with that shit on your hands

[KChiefs1]

Riddick trying to placate the Shit Stain fans.

[jerryaldini]

Lots of 911 calls in CLE tonight

[notorious]

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why you shouldn't gamble.

(I won't take my own advice)

[ljmhawk]

i expect the browns to lose next week at NYG now

[FloridaMan88]

Many bettors are now “cramping” as well.

[Megatron96]

I think there's a chance SVP put $$ on the Browns to cover.

[DRM08]

Holy shit the spread was 3.5 LMAO

Wow, crap ton of money getting moved around on that silly ending. LMAO

[notorious]

Van Pelt is already on the "Bad Beats" for that game. LMAO

[mililo4cpa]

Van Pelt cracking up on the set lol....

[KChiefs1]

SVP is going to love this bad beat.

[htismaqe]

Why is why I said "No." Did you miss that part?

He asked if Kareem should take a dive at the 1 and you said "no".

You went on to say that IF he went down at the 1, they win the game.

That's not true. They were behind by 7. If he goes down at the 1, there's a possibility they don't score at all and they lose right then and there.

[htismaqe]

Did that safety impact the ravens covering?


It sure did. ;)

[mr. tegu]

That’s a worst bad beat than the the Justin Houston one from a few years back.

[Red Dawg]

Browns should fire their DC. 45 to a team that can't pass the ball worth a shit?

[Megatron96]

He asked if Kareem should take a dive at the 1 and you said "no".

You went on to say that IF he went down at the 1, they win the game.

That's not true. They were behind by 7. If he goes down at the 1, there's a possibility they don't score at all and they lose right then and there.

Yeah, have to agree. In that moment it felt like Kareem couldn't be stopped, but BAL might've gotten lucky somehow, or CLE gets a flag that pushes them back. Too many bad things could happen, and you have to have that TD.

[ptlyon]

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why you shouldn't gamble.

(I won't take my own advice)

Lamar didn't

[KChiefs1]

SVP is must see tonight.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Please God... Please let us play one of these teams in the postseason.

[notorious]

Lamar didn't

LMAO

[ChiefsCountry]

I wonder what that shit sounded like to the assistant that was in the room

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[eDave]

He asked if Kareem should take a dive at the 1 and you said "no".

You went on to say that IF he went down at the 1, they win the game.

That's not true. They were behind by 7. If he goes down at the 1, there's a possibility they don't score at all and they lose right then and there.

It's not a big deal, man.

[DeepPurple]

I've seen every game the Ravens have ever played since they started in 1996 either live in person or on TV and I think that is probably the most thrilling game I've seen since the Mile High Miracle in 2012 when Flacco threw the 75 yard pass to Jacoby Jones to tie the game in Denver with 1 minute left in the game. Then they beat Peyton and the Broncos in overtime to go SB 47, which they won. Other than that, this is the second best game!!!

Unless you're from Cleveland or Baltimore, you don't know the animosity between these cities, it's same with Baltimore and the Indy Colts. I was 33 when the Colts left Baltimore, so I know how they feel in Cleveland but Baltimore didn't keep the name and the colors and records like Indy. Even though Pittsburgh is our biggest rival, Cleveland with a decent team may become a good rival.

[Frazod]

Poor Cleveland.

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[comochiefsfan]

I miss Kareem as a player.

But when you consider the fact that he singlehandedly cost the Chiefs a championship, he deserves to be remembered in the same way as Lin Elliot and Bob Sutton.

[Rain Man]

I've seen every game the Ravens have ever played since they started in 1996 either live in person or on TV and I think that is probably the most thrilling game I've seen since the Mile High Miracle in 2012 when Flacco threw the 75 yard pass to Jacoby Jones to tie the game in Denver with 1 minute left in the game. Then they beat Peyton and the Broncos in overtime to go SB 47, which they won. Other than that, this is the second best game!!!

I guess my big question here is ... why?

Aren't you a Chiefs fan? I always assumed you were.

[FloridaMan88]

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[KC_Connection]

He asked if Kareem should take a dive at the 1 and you said "no".

Which was the main thing you should have taken from that. Any idea why I might have said Kareem shouldn't have taken a dive? Might it have been because it's too big of a risk to take there?


You went on to say that IF he went down at the 1, they win the game.

They almost certainly would have, yes. This is a hypothetical that means nothing, though.

[big nasty kcnut]

That was the loser game of the year!

[Megatron96]

A dogfight with a shit in the middle

[Sassy Squatch]

LMAO Every fucking time the Browns are in prime time half the thread is lamentations about Kareem Hunt.

[ChiefsCountry]

ESPN postgame asking Lamar what he had left in the tank lmao

[FloridaMan88]

Lamar sticking with his “cramping” story.

[ChiefsCountry]

LMAO Every ****ing time the Browns are in prime time half the thread is lamentations about Kareem Hunt.

It's the normal two dipshits Pitt Douche and como.

[Sassy Squatch]

Lamar Jackson pre-shit: 6/12, 0 TD, 80 yards, 9 rushes

Lamar Jackson post-shit: 5/5, 1 TD, 82 yards, 0 rushes

[wazu]

I guess my big question here is ... why?

Aren't you a Chiefs fan? I always assumed you were.

Maybe this explains his user name.

[Megatron96]

LMAO Every fucking time the Browns are in prime time half the thread is lamentations about Kareem Hunt.

I understand the feeling. Tonight for the first time I wrote that I regretted losing Hunt to his own stupidity.

The guy is an incredible football player. One of the best I've ever seen. And he was ours, until he wasn't. I can acknowledge both that he was great and that he was stupid.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Dude, the Browns aren't as good as the Titans were last year. How did that end?



You're enamored with their running game. This isn't 1988, they're not scary.



Sure, they could beat the Chiefs. But you act like they're some kind of juggernaut. That's just silly.I don't think they are a juggernaut, I think their strengths are our weaknesses, on both sides of the ball.

We can't stop the run, and they have two possible 1000 yard rushers.

The interior of our offensive line is noticeably bad, and they have very good defensive tackles, and one of them is one of the top 3 defensive tackles in the NFL.

That's why they concern me. If we were better against the run on defense, or didn't have the worst interior offensive line play that many of us can remember, I would not be worried about them at all.

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[Buehler445]

Lamar sticking with his “cramping” story.

Yeah. He said it like 40 times. Way too fast. I’m not a shrink or anything but sounds like lying.

[dtrain]

ESPN postgame asking Lamar what he had left in the tank lmao

I knew I wasn't the only one who caught that!ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

[Rain Man]

Maybe this explains his user name.

I always assumed it was a trippy 70s music reference. If it was the Ravens it would be DeepStabWound.

But I guess I learned something tonight.

[KC_Connection]

I don't feel regret at all about Kareem although I probably would have if we didn't win it all last year. Mahomes obviously doesn't need him to win more SBs (though he is probably one of the top 2-3 RBs in the game and would make it easier).

[Pitt Gorilla]

Yeah. He said it like 40 times. Way too fast. I’m not a shrink or anything but sounds like lying.Can you imagine if the Ravens DON'T cut him for that? What will people think?

[Hammock Parties]

Idiots saying the Chiefs can't stop the run might want to look at the numbers in the last month.

This year's run defense is FAR better than it was last year, and at the beginning of this season.

Run defense isn't an issue with the Chiefs at all.

[mkp785]

I miss Kareem as a player.

But when you consider the fact that he singlehandedly cost the Chiefs a championship, he deserves to be remembered in the same way as Lin Elliot and Bob Sutton.

Huh?

If anyone deserves that title it's Dee Ford. Closely followed by old man Sutton. Hunt is barely top 10 for blame.

[Sassy Squatch]

It's the normal two dipshits Pitt Douche and como.
LMAO I wasn't even paying attention to the names. That dude is STILL crying about Hunt?!?

[carcosa]

Have a feeling we see Balt in the second round

We would quite literally murder them!!!!!

[Sassy Squatch]

Can you imagine if the Ravens DON'T cut him for that? What will people think?
Holy shit, you ARE still crying about it. LMAOROFLLMAOROFLLMAO

[Megatron96]

Another thing: CLE is getting better. They aren't serious contenders yet, but compared to what they were last season, this is a different football team. They started the game with a great drive, then sputtered out, got behind a couple TDs until the 4th, and then they came back and tied it up. Then took the lead.

They showed some really good resiliency tonight.

Now they just need a defense . . .

[KC_Connection]

Have a feeling we see Balt in the second round
It's definitely quite possible. The 4-7 teams look like some combo of Tenn/Indy/Balt/Clev (Raiders are done after tonight and Miami has to win out to have a chance which they probably won't do). All will finish around 11 wins so it's hard to exactly predict who is gonna finish where.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Holy shit, you ARE still crying about it. LMAOROFLLMAOROFLLMAO
Thought we were very clearly talking about Lamar...

[FloridaMan88]

The safety scoring play box score description is awesome LMAO

1 & 10 - CLE 25(0:02 - 4th) B.Mayfield pass short middle to K.Hunt to CLE 27 for 2 yards. FUMBLES recovered by CLE-R.Higgins at CLE 27. R.Higgins to CLE 21 for -6 yards. Lateral to B.Mayfield to CLE 15 for -6 yards. FUMBLES recovered by CLE-J.Landry at CLE 12. J.Landry to CLE 19 for 7 yards. Lateral to R.Higgins to CLE 19 for no gain (P.Queen). FUMBLES (P.Queen) recovered by CLE-K.Hunt at CLE 18. K.Hunt to CLE 16 for -2 yards. Lateral to R.Higgins to CLE 0 for -16 yards. FUMBLES recovered by CLE-J.Landry at CLE 0. J.Landry pushed ob in End Zone SAFETY (M.Humphrey).

[htismaqe]

I don't think they are a juggernaut, I think their strengths are our weaknesses, on both sides of the ball.

We can't stop the run, and they have two possible 1000 yard rushers.

The interior of our offensive line is noticeably bad, and they have very good defensive tackles, and one of them is one of the top 3 defensive tackles in the NFL.

That's why they concern me. If we were better against the run on defense, or didn't have the worst interior offensive line play that many of us can remember, I would not be worried about them at all.

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Dude, they're not going to run all over the Chiefs. One, the run defense isn't THAT bad and two, the Chiefs would destroy the back end of their defense. They couldn't shut down the RAVENS when it mattered. What do you think Mahomes is going to do to that defensive backfield?

And no, the offense line play isn't anywhere close to being the worst in memory. That's overblown too.

I don't know how many times it has to be said but the whole "run the ball, shorten the game" DOES NOT WORK.

The only times the Chiefs have lost to that strategy was when Mahomes was hurt and multiple starters were out.

[eDave]

Lamar Jackson pre-shit: 6/12, 0 TD, 80 yards, 9 rushes

Lamar Jackson post-shit: 5/5, 1 TD, 82 yards, 0 rushes

I just watched a South Park episode where the women were turkey basting their anus's with someone else's poop and the results were amazing. Then they all got sick and spread a deadly disease across the town because the turkey baster's lay around all year and get germs and bacteria on them so I wouldn't recommend it unless proper protocols are put into place.

[htismaqe]

Thought we were very clearly talking about Lamar...

ROFL

[Frazod]

It's definitely quite possible. The 4-7 teams look like some combo of Tenn/Indy/Balt/Clev (Raiders are done after tonight and Miami has to win out to have a chance which they probably won't do). All will finish around 11 wins so it's hard to exactly predict who is gonna finish where.

Of all these teams, Miami worries me the most. They basically rolled out on the field in a wheelchair and nearly beat us. I will be happy not to see them again this season.

[KChiefs1]

ESPN postgame asking Lamar what he had left in the tank lmao


Did he say he filled it?

[Pitt Gorilla]

ROFL

:thumb:

[Sassy Squatch]

Congrats to Lamar Jackson for beating the browns and also Cleveland's football team tonight.

[FloridaMan88]

Of all these teams, Miami worries me the most. They basically rolled out on the field in a wheelchair and nearly beat us. I will be happy not to see them again this season.

They needed 4 Chiefs turnovers to avoid losing by 30.

[|Zach|]

Fun game.

The NFL is so much more fun than it used to be. Past the dark ages of boring games with Manning and Brady moving down the field in spurts of 4 yard passes.

[Megatron96]

CLE 36 got owned by Lamar.

How is that possible?

[jerryaldini]

Dude, they're not going to run all over the Chiefs. One, the run defense isn't THAT bad and two, the Chiefs would destroy the back end of their defense. They couldn't shut down the RAVENS when it mattered. What do you think Mahomes is going to do to that defensive backfield?

And no, the offense line play isn't anywhere close to being the worst in memory. That's overblown too.

I don't know how many times it has to be said but the whole "run the ball, shorten the game" DOES NOT WORK.

The only times the Chiefs have lost to that strategy was when Mahomes was hurt and multiple starters were out.

In addition the run D has been solid of late. And yeah the whole play conservative to keep Mahomes on the sideline is fucking stupid. Instead you have to keep your foot on the gas the whole game like CAR did and hope to win a shootout.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Did anyone hear Griese say Lamar Jackson is one of the best to ever play his position? Toss that network in to the sun. Just awful 😂

[jerryaldini]

Fun game.

The NFL is so much more fun than it used to be. Past the dark ages of boring games with Manning and Brady moving down the field in spurts of 4 yard passes.

But Omaha Omaha!

[Easy 6]

Can you imagine if the Ravens DON'T cut him for that? What will people think?

I believe
Its meant to be darling
I watch you when you are sleeping
You belong with me
Do you feel the same?
Am I only dreaming
Or is this burning an eternal flame

[KChiefs1]

Lamar Jackson says he didn't have to use the bathroom.

"I was cramping. I wasn't pulling a Paul Pierce."

[jerryaldini]

Idiots saying the Chiefs can't stop the run might want to look at the numbers in the last month.

This year's run defense is FAR better than it was last year, and at the beginning of this season.

Run defense isn't an issue with the Chiefs at all.

Exactky! Pennell is immovable inside. Tackling is improved. Run D has become a strength. Raiders didn't be at us running it.

[mr. tegu]

Did anyone hear Griese say Lamar Jackson is one of the best to ever play his position? Toss that network in to the sun. Just awful [emoji23]

Did he preface it with RBs that play QB? Because that might be true.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I believe
Its meant to be darling
I watch you when you are sleeping
You belong with me
Do you feel the same?
Am I only dreaming
Or is this burning an eternal flame

I absolutely LOVE that song, but I think that has more to do with my feelings toward Susanna Hoffs than the song itself.

[ChiefsCountry]

Did he say he filled it?

He said he took the Browns to the Super Bowl

[KChiefs1]

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[mr. tegu]

Lamar Jackson says he didn't have to use the bathroom.

"I was cramping. I wasn't pulling a Paul Pierce."


I don’t blame him for sticking with the story but didn’t everyone see the way he turned the corner and avoided the rusher going into the locker room? Definitely still had a sense of urgency and quickness not associated with cramping.

[chiefzilla1501]

Another thing: CLE is getting better. They aren't serious contenders yet, but compared to what they were last season, this is a different football team. They started the game with a great drive, then sputtered out, got behind a couple TDs until the 4th, and then they came back and tied it up. Then took the lead.

They showed some really good resiliency tonight.

Now they just need a defense . . .

Yeah, that's what I've been saying. Of course their defense has issues right now. Some are fixed when Denzel ward is back. But they're right in the mold of last few years of vikings. Can't see them going too far but they're a spoiler to maybe take a round in the playoffs. Theyve got a pretty damn good coach to do that.

[Megatron96]

Yeah, that's what I've been saying. Of course their defense has issues right now. Some are fixed when Denzel ward is back. But they're right in the mold of last few years of vikings. Can't see them going too far but they're a spoiler to maybe take a round in the playoffs. Theyve got a pretty damn good coach to do that.

This team is what they were supposed to be last season, but then Kitchens happened.

And if Baker can ever get to the point where he plays like he did in that 4th quarter, they'd be a serious football team.

[Easy 6]

I absolutely LOVE that song, but I think that has more to do with my feelings toward Susanna Hoffs than the song itself.

Kareem sheds a single, manly tear because you're not thinking of him right now... why are you so mean :evil:

[TribalElder]

That safety is extremely suspect given the +3.5 spread

[tredadda]

I don't think they are a juggernaut, I think their strengths are our weaknesses, on both sides of the ball.

We can't stop the run, and they have two possible 1000 yard rushers.

The interior of our offensive line is noticeably bad, and they have very good defensive tackles, and one of them is one of the top 3 defensive tackles in the NFL.

That's why they concern me. If we were better against the run on defense, or didn't have the worst interior offensive line play that many of us can remember, I would not be worried about them at all.

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You mean the same Cleveland that beat the Jags by two and the Texans in an epic 10-7 showdown?

[Pitt Gorilla]

Kareem sheds a single, manly tear because you're not thinking of him right now... why are you so mean :evil:

Kareem cares nothing about me. Susanna, OTOH...

[htismaqe]

Yeah, that's what I've been saying. Of course their defense has issues right now. Some are fixed when Denzel ward is back. But they're right in the mold of last few years of vikings. Can't see them going too far but they're a spoiler to maybe take a round in the playoffs. Theyve got a pretty damn good coach to do that.

The Vikings had one of the best defenses in the league the last few years. Cleveland has a ways to go before they get there.

[tredadda]

Of all these teams, Miami worries me the most. They basically rolled out on the field in a wheelchair and nearly beat us. I will be happy not to see them again this season.

Meh. Mahomes also had the worst game of his career. I highly doubt they will cause two more tipped pass INTs to go along with a highlight reel INT while causing Mahomes to take a 30 yard sack again.

[Megatron96]

You mean the same Cleveland that beat the Jags by two and the Texans in an epic 10-7 showdown?

This is their first year under Stefanski. There was going to be growing pains while the players tried to understand the new philosophy, game plan, etc.

But you can see by how they fought back at the end of this game that they're starting to feel some confidence.

Now, there still going to have some ups and downs, but this isn't the same browns team from last year. Or even from the start of this season. And they're building it the right way, given their pieces.

Chubb and Hunt are the engine of this offense, not Baker. Baker is the sidekick. That's smart. Let the RBs shoulder most of the offensive load, and then let Baker keep the defense honest by hitting some intermediate passes. Every once in awhile let him air one out for a splash play. But always rely on Chubb and Hunt, not Baker.

It's starting to work for them. They just scored 42 points and overcame a two TD lead in the 4th quarter. I don't care what team we're talking about, that's not easy in the NFL.

[tredadda]

Not sure why some people here still pine for Kareem. Had he stayed here he would have continued to post monster numbers which means he would have been looking at a CMC type of contract. No chance KC can afford that meaning he probably walks anyways.

[tredadda]

This is their first year under Stefanski. There was going to be growing pains while the players tried to understand the new philosophy, game plan, etc.

But you can see by how they fought back at the end of this game that they're starting to feel some confidence.

Now, there still going to have some ups and downs, but this isn't the same browns team from last year. Or even from the start of this season. And they're building it the right way, given their pieces.

Chubb and Hunt are the engine of this offense, not Baker. Baker is the sidekick. That's smart. Let the RBs shoulder most of the offensive load, and then let Baker keep the defense honest by hitting some intermediate passes. Every once in awhile let him air one out for a splash play. But always rely on Chubb and Hunt, not Baker.

It's starting to work for them. They just scored 42 points and overcame a two TD lead in the 4th quarter. I don't care what team we're talking about, that's not easy in the NFL.

I can agree with their offense running (pun intended) through Chubb and Hunt. I am still taking a wait and see approach with them though. Let's see how they perform next year.

Also getting up for a division rival is one thing. Squeaking out victories over teams drafting in the Top 10 is another.

[Megatron96]

I can agree with their offense running (pun intended) through Chubb and Hunt. I am still taking a wait and see approach with them though. Let's see how they perform next year.

They'll probably still have some issues. But next season they'll probably put away just about every team they're supposed to, and be a tough out for at least half of their better opponents. They'll be kind of like the 2014 Chiefs. Not a consistent playoff team, but capable, if they play clean and the other team doesn't.

[tredadda]

They'll probably still have some issues. But next season they'll probably put away just about every team they're supposed to, and be a tough out for at least half of their better opponents. They'll be kind of like the 2014 Chiefs. Not a consistent playoff team, but capable, if they play clean and the other team doesn't.

That is very possible. I can see that happening.

[Buehler445]

Did anyone hear Griese say Lamar Jackson is one of the best to ever play his position? Toss that network in to the sun. Just awful ��

Unfortunately I did.

Ryan Clark said the exact same thing. I don’t know why they feel so compelled to sell it but they are.

[Megatron96]

Unfortunately I did.

Ryan Clark said the exact same thing. I don’t know why they feel so compelled to sell it but they are.

Brian Griese I kind of get. He's being paid to say what they want him to say, and as a former QB, he knows how to lie and make it sound good.

I don't get Ryan Clark though. He's been on the chalkboard several times drawing up why Lamar shouldn't have thrown one pass or another for two years now at least.

[Nickhead]

has anyone noticed yet, that lamar jackson is a great running back playing the qb position?

that guy will not last three more years.. mark the calender :D

[KChiefs1]

I absolutely LOVE that song, but I think that has more to do with my feelings toward Susanna Hoffs than the song itself.


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[Megatron96]

That is very possible. I can see that happening.

And you just watch.

In two years, assuming they get their defensive issues sorted out, they'll be a consistent playoff team, still not quite a ready contender, but a pretty tough out that no one will want to face in January. Baker will be fully conversant in the playbook by then, hopefully more mature, and they'll add another receiving weapon. Probably draft a WR in 2021. Maybe add a Sammy Watkins type through free agency.

Of course, a ton hinges on Baker growing up, and continuing to work on his craft, and staying humble, but it's all possible. The Browns could dominate the AFC-N in two years.

[Megatron96]

has anyone noticed yet, that lamar jackson is a great running back playing the qb position?

that guy will not last three more years.. mark the calender :D

I didn't think he'd get this far without sustaining some kind of injury. He's extremely resilient, despite the hits he keeps taking. Hell, just running like that invites injury after a while.

[Megatron96]

Not sure why some people here still pine for Kareem. Had he stayed here he would have continued to post monster numbers which means he would have been looking at a CMC type of contract. No chance KC can afford that meaning he probably walks anyways.

We had $177 in the budget before signing a superkid to a half-billion dollar contract.

I think Veach could've found the money from somewhere if Andy wanted to keep him.

[NEOM]

A QB who doesnt throw the ball should not be called QB.

[Megatron96]

A QB who doesnt throw the ball should not be called QB.

You go back far enough, and that's exactly what a QB was on every team. Basically a FB that received the snap to start the play. The forward pass hadn't been invented yet.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Idiots saying the Chiefs can't stop the run might want to look at the numbers in the last month.

This year's run defense is FAR better than it was last year, and at the beginning of this season.

Run defense isn't an issue with the Chiefs at all.Only 2 teams in the NFL give up more yards per carry than we do. We give up 4.7 yards per carry, and the Texans give up 5 ypc, and the Cowboys give up 5.1 ypc.

You can select a specific cross section of games to make almost any defense look better than it is.

And more than that, if some idiots watch our defense with their own eyes, and say yeah, that's some really good run defense, then they have just confirmed that they are indeed idiots.

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[Frazod]

They needed 4 Chiefs turnovers to avoid losing by 30.

And they got four Chiefs turnovers.

[Megatron96]

Only 2 teams in the NFL give up more yards per carry than we do. We give up 4.7 yards per carry, and the Texans give up 5 ypc, and the Cowboys give up 5.1 ypc.

You can select a specific cross section of games to make almost any defense look better than it is.

And more than that, if some idiots watch our defense with their own eyes, and say yeah, that's some really good run defense, then they have just confirmed that they are indeed idiots.

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They're not great at it now. They aren't built to be great against the run. They're built to get some pressure on a QB trying to get chunk yards. They're built to stop teams that have become one-dimensional because we have a two score lead on them going into the later innings.

But after we shed some dead weight in the offseason, and draft a good prospect, maybe add a solid veteran somehow, they'll get better at it. In a couple seasons, after Veach does his thing and gets the draftees Spags wants, this defense will be a top-10 unit against both the pass and the run. Gay will be running everything by then, hopefully, with another young, fast, ferocious LB learning the Chiefs way of playing defense alongside.

Right now the Chiefs can't stop a decent running team all game long if they keep it on the ground. But they can stop the run situationally. Not every time, but pretty often. Chris is even becoming a better run-stopper.

We have the technology.

[chiefzilla1501]

The Vikings had one of the best defenses in the league the last few years. Cleveland has a ways to go before they get there.

Not really that far off. It's just a really bad time for them. Their secondary is beat the hell up. Denzel ward and Ronnie Harrison should be back by the end of season. Greedy Williams maybe. Next year they'll get grant delpit back, and losing takitaki a few weeks back was a big blow.

Theyre pretty far along on talent, just need to get healthy and add a few more guys.

[Funkstown]

I feel asleep watching this game and then took a dump at the end. Heard the Indians are changing their name.

[Mav]

Not really that far off. It's just a really bad time for them. Their secondary is beat the hell up. Denzel ward and Ronnie Harrison should be back by the end of season. Greedy Williams maybe. Next year they'll get grant delpit back, and losing takitaki a few weeks back was a big blow.

Theyre pretty far along on talent, just need to get healthy and add a few more guys.


The issue is as long as Sendejo is in that secondary it’s trash.


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[NEOM]

You go back far enough, and that's exactly what a QB was on every team. Basically a FB that received the snap to start the play. The forward pass hadn't been invented yet.

Might be true, we are in a new age, so I dont give a shit what was common in the stone age.

[RealSNR]

Only 2 teams in the NFL give up more yards per carry than we do. We give up 4.7 yards per carry, and the Texans give up 5 ypc, and the Cowboys give up 5.1 ypc.

You can select a specific cross section of games to make almost any defense look better than it is.

And more than that, if some idiots watch our defense with their own eyes, and say yeah, that's some really good run defense, then they have just confirmed that they are indeed idiots.

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In the last month?

That was what Clay was pointing out.

I remember last year when we were starting to improve a lot on defense at the end of the season, and dipshits in the media were still spouting the terrible cumulative numbers on defense as if they meant jack shit to what was going on RIGHT NOW as the Chiefs played. We just aren't talking about our defensive improvement this year because we weren't as bad on defense this year as we were last year at the beginning of the season.

Sure, playing offenses like the Dolphins and Donkeys back to back will help out a lot in that regard, but I imagine we'll continue to see semblances of that improvement bear themselves out as we get into the playoffs.

For example, if we play the Titans, Derrick Henry isn't going to be the one to take this team down. The tired, stupid narrative of "Run the ball, take time off the clock, keep Mahomes on the sideline" is going to get repeated over and over again, but it's always going to result in teams coming up short on points in an effort to beat us.

[O.city]

That was the worst bad beat of all time.

The Browns were +3. Some people got fucked so hard. Those of us who had the Ravens -3 and the over cashed sweet sweet money.

I woke the whole house up yelling. So awesome.

[ChiefsFanatic]

In the last month?



That was what Clay was pointing out.



I remember last year when we were starting to improve a lot on defense at the end of the season, and dipshits in the media were still spouting the terrible cumulative numbers on defense as if they meant jack shit to what was going on RIGHT NOW as the Chiefs played. We just aren't talking about our defensive improvement this year because we weren't as bad on defense this year as we were last year at the beginning of the season.



Sure, playing offenses like the Dolphins and Donkeys back to back will help out a lot in that regard, but I imagine we'll continue to see semblances of that improvement bear themselves out as we get into the playoffs.



For example, if we play the Titans, Derrick Henry isn't going to be the one to take this team down. The tired, stupid narrative of "Run the ball, take time off the clock, keep Mahomes on the sideline" is going to get repeated over and over again, but it's always going to result in teams coming up short on points in an effort to beat us.I know he meant the last month, but you could grab any 2, 3, or 4 game stretch for a lot of teams and try to apply those statistics to the quality of the defense, but the truth is the larger the sample size the more accurate the results.

For whatever reason, teams tend to get away from running the ball against us, even when they are only down one score. I am sure you, and many, many Chiefs fans said something like "damn, I don't know why they just didn't run the ball on every play" during a Chiefs game.

I forgot who it was, but in one game we were giving up a little over 8 yards per carry, and if the coach had the balls to stick to it, or any confidence in their defense, we would have been lucky to hold them to 200 yards rushing that day.

Teams like the Ravens have proven their run first offense can put up 30 points. But against us, Harbaugh always abandons the running game because in his head he feels like he needs to pass to keep pace with us.

Our linebackers are slow, or just bad, and eventually Nnadi and Pennel would wear down, and then we would have to sell out at the LOS to stop the run, and against a good team we would be so vulnerable to the play action passes.

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[scho63]

AFC Central looks like the most exciting division for the playoff chase.

[TEX]

In the last month?

That was what Clay was pointing out.

I remember last year when we were starting to improve a lot on defense at the end of the season, and dipshits in the media were still spouting the terrible cumulative numbers on defense as if they meant jack shit to what was going on RIGHT NOW as the Chiefs played. We just aren't talking about our defensive improvement this year because we weren't as bad on defense this year as we were last year at the beginning of the season.

Sure, playing offenses like the Dolphins and Donkeys back to back will help out a lot in that regard, but I imagine we'll continue to see semblances of that improvement bear themselves out as we get into the playoffs.

For example, if we play the Titans, Derrick Henry isn't going to be the one to take this team down. The tired, stupid narrative of "Run the ball, take time off the clock, keep Mahomes on the sideline" is going to get repeated over and over again, but it's always going to result in teams coming up short on points in an effort to beat us.

True. But in a one game scenario, its a decent option if the other team's overwhelming strength is the run game. They'll also have to hit on some play-action to pull it off, but it will all be part of a run heavy game plan. Where teams **** up is when they cant complete passes when they need to.

[lewdog]

AFC Central looks like the most exciting division for the playoff chase.

AFC Central huh?

[notorious]

AFC Central huh?

Old school brah.

[htismaqe]

Imagine being worried about the fucking Browns.

[Chris Meck]

I'm worried only about the Chiefs.

As long as they show up and play well, nobody will beat them.

[htismaqe]

I'm worried only about the Chiefs.

As long as they show up and play well, nobody will beat them.

Yep.

Even if they don't play well, they're going to beat most teams on any given Sunday.

I just don't get being worried about a run-first team. That tactic DOESN'T WORK. The losses the Chiefs have taken when Mahomes is at full strength were ALL shootouts, including the only loss this year.

[Chris Meck]

Yep.

Even if they don't play well, they're going to beat most teams on any given Sunday.

I just don't get being worried about a run-first team. That tactic DOESN'T WORK. The losses the Chiefs have taken when Mahomes is at full strength were ALL shootouts, including the only loss this year.

the only thing that gives me pause is that we're down to a 3rd string/practice squad RT. At SOME POINT, even Mahomes won't be able to function if the injuries/poor play at offensive line keep piling up. If that happens our goose is cooked.

I'm not panicked, but I am concerned.

[mililo4cpa]

Imagine being worried about the fucking Browns.

or the Browns.....


I'm sure it's probably happened, can't think of when it might have (maybe Lamar Jackson's rookie season when he took over mid way through the season), but was last night Lamar Jackson's first come from behind victory with under 2 mins left in the 4th Q?

[htismaqe]

the only thing that gives me pause is that we're down to a 3rd string/practice squad RT. At SOME POINT, even Mahomes won't be able to function if the injuries/poor play at offensive line keep piling up. If that happens our goose is cooked.

I'm not panicked, but I am concerned.

Which is why the #1 seed was so important. That's an extra week of rest for guys to get healthy(er).

The good news is that we have two NFC teams the next two weeks and one of them isn't very good so we'll have some time there to be patient as well.

[notorious]

Cleveland beat writer on Dan Patrick:

"It was a game that they lost but felt like a victory!"

Yeah.....okay honey.

[Deberg_1990]

Lamar was a stud after his bowel movement !

[notorious]

"If I were an AFC team I would want to face either one of these teams"

Is it stand up comedy Tuesday morning?

[notorious]

Now they are talking up a possible Cleveland upset over the Chiefs.


LOL

[Buehler445]

Cleveland beat writer on Dan Patrick:

"It was a game that they lost but felt like a victory!"

Yeah.....okay honey.

ROFL ROFL ROFL

[ptlyon]

They both gave up 40+ points. Sounds reasonable.

[htismaqe]

Cleveland beat writer on Dan Patrick:

"It was a game that they lost but felt like a victory!"

Yeah.....okay honey.

ROFL

[Sassy Squatch]

Cleveland ain't doing shit with that defense. They almost blew that 31 point lead to the Titans then let post shit Lamar gape their assholes wide open.

[htismaqe]

Cleveland ain't doing shit with that defense. They almost blew that 31 point lead to the Titans then let post shit Lamar gape their assholes wide open.

yup

[Chris Meck]

Cleveland is getting better. Ravens are regressing.

[mililo4cpa]

I know he meant the last month, but you could grab any 2, 3, or 4 game stretch for a lot of teams and try to apply those statistics to the quality of the defense, but the truth is the larger the sample size the more accurate the results.

For whatever reason, teams tend to get away from running the ball against us, even when they are only down one score. I am sure you, and many, many Chiefs fans said something like "damn, I don't know why they just didn't run the ball on every play" during a Chiefs game.

I forgot who it was, but in one game we were giving up a little over 8 yards per carry, and if the coach had the balls to stick to it, or any confidence in their defense, we would have been lucky to hold them to 200 yards rushing that day.

Teams like the Ravens have proven their run first offense can put up 30 points. But against us, Harbaugh always abandons the running game because in his head he feels like he needs to pass to keep pace with us.

Our linebackers are slow, or just bad, and eventually Nnadi and Pennel would wear down, and then we would have to sell out at the LOS to stop the run, and against a good team we would be so vulnerable to the play action passes.

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Disagree with most, if not all of this: Teams get away from the run from us because we barrage them with points. Harbaugh doesn't abandon the run when they play us....they've been down multiple scores the last two times they played us and he had no choice. The Titans had no problem running the ball in the AFCCG in the first half, until we got the lead and shut it down on them in the 2nd half

There is a reason that teams don't keep pounding the rock on us despite what you call poor run defense.....

I've explained it ad nauseam in the Steelers thread: only one time did a team beat the Chiefs with Pat starting by not scoring 29+ points: ONE TIME. Of course, that was last years Colts game, where Pat had a bum ankle, no Hill, no Watkins, no Fish (and turnstile Cam Ervin protecting Pat's blind side), Clark and Jones went down in game with rookie Khalen Sanders filling in (who at the time had almost 0 game experience), and we still had a shot at the end to win if somebody would have even breathed on Justin Houston on 4th down.

That's one time in 8 losses (and 39 wins) that a team successfully employed a "slow it down" game. At the end of the day, it's proven that strategy doesn't work, and anyone who says so is ignoring the facts: Teams have to score 30+ points to beat this team....and most of the league cannot do it slowing games down and limiting their possessions

and while a Browns team that can run with that tandem is nice and all against most teams, their D isn't going to stop the Chiefs. the Chiefs don't play the same game as 95% of the remainder of the league....they don't need 5 minute drives to score, and they don't need a massive amount of possessions to put points up. Cleveland's D isn't remotely close to the Dolphins, and the Fish couldn't win the game even after we gave them four Turnovers....

Cleveland, Ravens, Titans, Steelers, Dolphins, Colts are all teams that need possessions to score points. If you limit each team 7 possessions in a game v. the Chiefs, I'd take that all day, because the Chiefs are going to still put up 24-27 points....can you say the same about any of those teams in a slow game?

This is why I think Buffalo is the biggest "threat" in the AFC....they have the type of offense and gunslinging QB that can hang around and put points up....but even they don't play the same game as the Chiefs. They are the most likely to put up the 30+ points needed to beat this Chiefs team, but ultimately I don't think they can get it done consistently at all.

Of course, on any given day, one team can beat another, that goes without saying, but the Chiefs have lost one time since last November because a team slowed it down. The reality is that teams have to put up 30+ to do that, and running the ball isn't going to do that....

[htismaqe]

Disagree with most, if not all of this: Teams get away from the run from us because we barrage them with points. Harbaugh doesn't abandon the run when they play us....they've been down multiple scores the last two times they played us and he had no choice. The Titans had no problem running the ball in the AFCCG in the first half, until we got the lead and shut it down on them in the 2nd half

There is a reason that teams don't keep pounding the rock on us despite what you call poor run defense.....

I've explained it ad nauseam in the Steelers thread: only one time did a team beat the Chiefs with Pat starting by not scoring 29+ points: ONE TIME. Of course, that was last years Colts game, where Pat had a bum ankle, no Hill, no Watkins, no Fish (and turnstile Cam Ervin protecting Pat's blind side), Clark and Jones went down in game with rookie Khalen Sanders filling in (who at the time had almost 0 game experience), and we still had a shot at the end to win if somebody would have even breathed on Justin Houston on 4th down.

That's one time in 8 losses (and 39 wins) that a team successfully employed a "slow it down" game. At the end of the day, it's proven that strategy doesn't work, and anyone who says so is ignoring the facts: Teams have to score 30+ points to beat this team....and most of the league cannot do it slowing games down and limiting their possessions

and while a Browns team that can run with that tandem is nice and all against most teams, their D isn't going to stop the Chiefs. the Chiefs don't play the same game as 95% of the remainder of the league....they don't need 5 minute drives to score, and they don't need a massive amount of possessions to put points up. Cleveland's D isn't remotely close to the Dolphins, and the Fish couldn't win the game even after we gave them four Turnovers....

Cleveland, Ravens, Titans, Steelers, Dolphins, Colts are all teams that need possessions to score points. If you limit each team 7 possessions in a game v. the Chiefs, I'd take that all day, because the Chiefs are going to still put up 24-27 points....can you say the same about any of those teams in a slow game?

This is why I think Buffalo is the biggest "threat" in the AFC....they have the type of offense and gunslinging QB that can hang around and put points up....but even they don't play the same game as the Chiefs. They are the most likely to put up the 30+ points needed to beat this Chiefs team, but ultimately I don't think they can get it done consistently at all.

Of course, on any given day, one team can beat another, that goes without saying, but the Chiefs have lost one time since last November because a team slowed it down. The reality is that teams have to put up 30+ to do that, and running the ball isn't going to do that....

Exactly.

[notorious]

If Buffalo is on they will give us a game. If they aren't it will be a bloodbath.

[MahomesMagic]

Buffalo's Josh Allen had less than 100 yards passing going into the 4th quarter against us. We know what to do with him and our offense knows what to do to their defense, inside zone runs and RPO's.

For some reason Pittsburgh kept trying to run outside or throw short passes to the boundary, DUMB. You attack Buffalo right up the middle which is always wide open. It's been that way for 2 years now.

[DeepPurple]

I guess my big question here is ... why?

Aren't you a Chiefs fan? I always assumed you were.

No, I like the Chiefs, but I was born in Baltimore, but I grew up in St. Petersburg but left there for good the year the Bucs started play in '77. I stayed a Colts fan in Florida growing up and after they left for Indy I became a Houston Oilers fan until the Ravens started. I was actually living in Baltimore then and went to the very first game and saw John Unitas hand the ball to Vinny Testeverde and they beat the Raiders that day in 1996.

I was on the Ravens message board, that one is no longer around, in 2001 and we had just won SB XXXV and some guy started posting named 'Fat Elvis' and he mentioned this board. Billick had just signed Elvis Grbac to replace Trent Dilfer, which was the beginning of Billick's downfall, which became real when he draft Kyle Boller and tried to justify his first round selection. I came over to this board and it was just kind of starting and everyone seemed nice, what I liked was you could discuss music or any subject and it was moved or deleted. So I joined and primary don't talk about football but music, movies and the such. I haven't posted on a Ravens board in a dozen years.


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[Sorce]

That safety at the end gave me 5 points for the ravens D and won my FF playoff game.

[Chris Meck]

also, wasn't that Terrance Mitchell that BLEW IT for the Raven's last TD last night?

[MahomesMagic]

Cleveland is getting better. Ravens are regressing.

Cleveland is close. They just need a little bit better safety and linebacker play and they will have caught up to Baltimore and Pittsburgh.

[gblowfish]

Shouldn't this be a poop thread?

[notorious]

Shouldn't this be a poop thread?

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[Titty Meat]

Buffalo's Josh Allen had less than 100 yards passing going into the 4th quarter against us. We know what to do with him and our offense knows what to do to their defense, inside zone runs and RPO's.

For some reason Pittsburgh kept trying to run outside or throw short passes to the boundary, DUMB. You attack Buffalo right up the middle which is always wide open. It's been that way for 2 years now.

The weather that game was awful even mahomes wasnt great

[redfan]

Garret going out as long as he did was huge. For me. In FF. A lot of crazy crap happened in that game.
Also: It's an insult to WPayton to have Garret be a man of the year nom. But it's the Browns, so...

[chiefzilla1501]

Cleveland ain't doing shit with that defense. They almost blew that 31 point lead to the Titans then let post shit Lamar gape their assholes wide open.

That Browns defense getting Denzel Ward and Ronnie Harrison back, and potentially Greedy Williams, is a different defense. They are still not a great defense. But those guys improve the defense just enough. They're really banged up right now.

[KChiefs1]

Cleveland beat writer on Dan Patrick:

"It was a game that they lost but felt like a victory!"

Yeah.....okay honey.

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[MahomesMagic]

The weather that game was awful even mahomes wasnt great

Mahomes went 21 for 26 for 225 Yards 2 TD's and a 128.4 QB rating. That included about 4 drops. He was deadly efficient.

Josh Allen completed 14 of 27 for 122 yards 2 TD's and 1 Int, 73.4 QB rating. And a good chunk of his yards came late when KC stopped disguising coverages and played easier to read zone.

Allen was garbage because we disguised and screwed up his pre-snap reads and he struggles when he can't hit read 1. The weather wasn't the biggest factor.

Can't wait to do it again.

[Sassy Squatch]

Damn, Peters.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This you <a href="https://twitter.com/marcuspeters?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@marcuspeters</a>? Spitting on a dude that’s walking away from you? And you got the nerve to call someone else “home girl?” Bitch move if I’ve ever seen on. <a href="https://t.co/nas1p9MZmg">pic.twitter.com/nas1p9MZmg</a></p>&mdash; Obese Turtle (@MarqsJO) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarqsJO/status/1338886533676490752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Deberg_1990]

Damn, Peters.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This you <a href="https://twitter.com/marcuspeters?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@marcuspeters</a>? Spitting on a dude that’s walking away from you? And you got the nerve to call someone else “home girl?” Bitch move if I’ve ever seen on. <a href="https://t.co/nas1p9MZmg">pic.twitter.com/nas1p9MZmg</a></p>&mdash; Obese Turtle (@MarqsJO) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarqsJO/status/1338886533676490752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wow. He should be fined big time for that. Especially in the COVID age.....

[Easy 6]

Wow, I don't miss that mfer one little bit

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Romanowski is rolling over in his crept

[Sassy Squatch]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Probably good that JK Dobbins deleted a tweet bragging about giving a guy a concussion. Thinking someone in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ravens?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ravens</a> PR department got to him quick. <a href="https://t.co/MYrlefKOda">pic.twitter.com/MYrlefKOda</a></p>&mdash; Daryl Ruiter (@RuiterWrongFAN) <a href="https://twitter.com/RuiterWrongFAN/status/1338897646296178689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>