Kyle Long may miss training camp with leg injury

[TribalElder]

Kyle Long‘s comeback effort has hit a snag.

NFL Media reports that Long suffered a leg injury that could keep him out through training camp. Initial thoughts were that it would keep him out for the season, but the hope is that Long will be able to return to action before the start of the regular season.

Long did not play in 2020 after missing 34 games over his final four years with the Bears due to injury, but signed with the Chiefs as part of their offensive line overhaul this offseason.

It looked like Long would be competing for the right guard spot during camp. Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, who is also returning from sitting out the 2020 season, Andrew Wylie and sixth-round pick Trey Smith may now make up the group vying for that spot.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/06/10/kyle-long-may-miss-training-camp-with-leg-injury/

[KCUnited]

Guy makes Sammy Watkins look like Cal Ripken Jr

[tyecopeland]

Glad we made it a few weeks without needing to use our newfound depth at ol.

[Chris Meck]

alright. Well, it was worth a shot.

[Chris Meck]

So, LDT, Smith, Blythe, Alegretti in competetion for RG. Niang and Remmers at RT.

[RealSNR]

I honestly wasn't counting on him anyway.

[AdolfOliverBush]

Guy makes Sammy Watkins look like Cal Ripken Jr

LMAO

He makes Mr. Glass look like Wolverine.

[scho63]

Broke dick being a broke dick.

What a shock.

[Sofa King]

Well, fuck. Guess it's better now than right away to start the season. Hopefully that turd LDT doesn't win the spot. Trey Smith FTW.

[smithandrew051]

Didn’t win the lottery with this ticket. It happens. No real surprise.

[morphius]

Have to feel for the guy, put in all that effort, have the talent, and your body just can't do it.

Luckily for the Chiefs it was early, so gives more gel opportunity for the guys that might stay healthy.

[RunKC]

The guy is a broke dick that can’t be counted on for anything.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Better now than mid season i guess. Ah well.

[-King-]

No way?

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Just plug Trey Smith in and don't worry about the position for the next 15 years.

Long can be a reserve if/when he comes back. Counting on him to be a starter is obviously a stretch and the last thing I want is guys cycling in and out of the lineup again. Just put the young mauler in there and don't look back.

And I swear to God, if I read reports that Wylie is taking the first team snaps at that spot now I will flip out.

[Skyy God]

Literally posted 4 days ago that Smith would win the starting RG spot if/when Long is injured.

Guy is done.

[louie aguiar]

This is why we have depth. Plug LDT in as your starting RG.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Literally posted 4 days ago that Smith would win the starting RG spot if/when Long is injured.

Guy is done.

Just have to hope Andy's obsession with Andrew Wylie doesn't stand in the way of that scenario being allowed to happen.

[RunKC]

Literally posted 4 days ago that Smith would win the starting RG spot if/when Long is injured.

Guy is done.

I just don’t see Andy doing that to start the year and I really want it to happen. That would be 2 rookies starting right next to each other, maybe 3 if Niang wins the RT job.

I think they’ll start Blythe or LDT this year

[tmax63]

Doc Larry or Smith. Neither is a bad option especially compared to last year.

[Dunerdr]

Good thing we have 9 more guards. Tapping into them early!

[BigCatDaddy]

With Remmers at RT instead of Niang I don't feel as nervous about 2 rookies at C/RG if they want to go that route.

[wazu]

Glad to hear he’ll be back in time to suffer another season ending injury during week one warm-ups.

[oldman]

I've been wary of annointing Long as the starter at RG since his signing. He was a cheap option to provide depth at G/T all along. I believe LDT will come back and be OK. Let's see what the staff comes up with during TC.

[Dante84]

He fractured his kneecap. Jesus

[Chris Meck]

Just plug Trey Smith in and don't worry about the position for the next 15 years.

Long can be a reserve if/when he comes back. Counting on him to be a starter is obviously a stretch and the last thing I want is guys cycling in and out of the lineup again. Just put the young mauler in there and don't look back.

And I swear to God, if I read reports that Wylie is taking the first team snaps at that spot now I will flip out.

while I have high hopes for Smith I'd rather not have the entire right side of the line from Center over be all rookies.

[scho63]

Just have to hope Andy's obsession with Andrew Wylie doesn't stand in the way of that scenario being allowed to happen.

Wylie is yesterday's news. :shake:

[Chris Meck]

With Remmers at RT instead of Niang I don't feel as nervous about 2 rookies at C/RG if they want to go that route.

If Niang can't beat out Remmers then he's a lost cause.

Remmers was barely serviceable. He's got 30" arms, for fuckssake.

LDT would have the inside track to RG, and that's fine, honestly. If the Canadian doc is our worst starter, it's a pretty damned good line.

[O.city]

They may be rookies but they're pretty highly touted. Play them. Let them learn and bring it along slowly.

[AdolfOliverBush]

Humphrey-LDT-Niang

[Chris Meck]

They may be rookies but they're pretty highly touted. Play them. Let them learn and bring it along slowly.

How exactly do you 'bring it along slowly' if you're starting three rookies in a row?

Are you going to tell opposing defenses to please not stunt or run any zone blitzes so as not to confuse our rookie offensive linemen?

No, you start LDT at RG in between Humphrey and Niang so you've got one guy there that's seen it all before.

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The belief is Kyle Long suffered a fractured kneecap, per source. Sounds painful (and surely is!) but Long has a chance to be ready Week 1. <a href="https://t.co/UAt5OmBjj5">https://t.co/UAt5OmBjj5</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1402990708424732695?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Hoover]

This could be a blessing in disguise.

All this does is accelerate the development of our rookie guard. Worse case he starts the season on IR or PUP then have him for the second half of the season.

Be thankful the Chiefs addressed the O line throughout the draft.

[Dunerdr]

With Remmers at RT instead of Niang I don't feel as nervous about 2 rookies at C/RG if they want to go that route.

I'd be fine moving Remmers to guard where he started last year and putting Niang next to him.

[-King-]

How exactly do you 'bring it along slowly' if you're starting three rookies in a row?

Are you going to tell opposing defenses to please not stunt or run any zone blitzes so as not to confuse our rookie offensive linemen?

No, you start LDT at RG in between Humphrey and Niang so you've got one guy there that's seen it all before.
Start Blythe who was good at guard with the Rams.

[Hammock Parties]

Kyle Not For Long

[Chris Meck]

well, that's a freak thing, a fractured knee-cap.

The good news there is that Long will probably not be a starter, but is still an experienced and talented depth guy. How long he could play before he gets hurt again is a question, but I like his experience off the bench for spot duty. If LDT or Niang had to miss a game, you wouldn't have a drop-off going to Long.

I'd be leery of expecting a full season from him though.

[Chris Meck]

Start Blythe who was good at guard with the Rams.

Sure, if he beats out LDT. I doubt it though, as LDT has a few years in this offense.

But at any rate, you don't want 3 rookies in a row. One missed read and Mahomes gets clobbered. You need at least ONE guy in the middle of that who knows what's going on around him.

[BigRedChief]

He fractured his kneecap. Jesus

Yeah we all knew “if healthy” was going to be the key with Long. Luckily we have a backup plan or two.

[oldman]

Start Blythe who was good at guard with the Rams.

Blythe was brought in to be a C, not a G. Before we annoint Humphrey as the starter, let's see how TC plays out. I'm not saying Creed won't be the starter come Game 1, let's just not start shuffling guys around just yet.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Wylie is yesterday's news. :shake:

Yeah, I've thought that for the last two seasons.

Then the next thing you know he's starting at RT in the Super Bowl. :doh!:

[-King-]

Blythe was brought in to be a C, not a G. Before we annoint Humphrey as the starter, let's see how TC plays out. I'm not saying Creed won't be the starter come Game 1, let's just not start shuffling guys around just yet.

Yeah he was brought in to be center but as soon as we drafted Humphrey in the 3rd round, those plans obviously changed. I don't see how he could be any worse than LDT at RG and the run blocking with him next to Creed, Thuney and Orlando would be insane.

[Easy 6]

This is why we have depth. Plug LDT in as your starting RG.

I’d rather just coach the shit outta Niang and Smith, and let that right side learn on the fly

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Really hate it for the guy.

LDT or Smith... I personally hope Smith takes it over.

[BigCatDaddy]

Save him for the playoffs.

[O.city]

How exactly do you 'bring it along slowly' if you're starting three rookies in a row?

Are you going to tell opposing defenses to please not stunt or run any zone blitzes so as not to confuse our rookie offensive linemen?

No, you start LDT at RG in between Humphrey and Niang so you've got one guy there that's seen it all before.


Run the ball, play action, get it out quick etc.

[Rainbarrel]

Maybe Long is the injury version of a dream catcher. Eat it blood magic.

[ChiefBlueCFC]

I knew he had retired/took the year off due to injuries but I didn't realize how much game time he had missed the four seasons prior to 2020.

[The Franchise]

MAH GOD!!! THAT’S TREY SMITH’S MUSIC!!!!

[Coogs]

while I have high hopes for Smith I'd rather not have the entire right side of the line from Center over be all rookies.

We run shotgun 77% of the time. Mahomes blind side should be no problem with Brown and Thuney protecting it. He would have the whole right side right in his vision the whole time. If something goes wrong once in a while, Mahomes is a magician at improvising. Shouldn't be a huge issue I wouldn't think.

[KChiefs1]

He fractured his kneecap. Jesus


Damn

[KChiefs1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The belief is Kyle Long suffered a fractured kneecap, per source. Sounds painful (and surely is!) but Long has a chance to be ready Week 1. <a href="https://t.co/UAt5OmBjj5">https://t.co/UAt5OmBjj5</a></p>— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1402990708424732695?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


https://media3.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpKniGqRNLGBrhu/giphy.gif

[Deberg_1990]

He will be fine for the playoff drive in December/January. Save him until then.

[TEX]

I'm not surprised at all. This is who Long is. Before he retired, he missed a lot of time the last few years. He was a low risk high reward signing to begin with. That's why we have depth. LDT / Blythe (if he's not starting at Center) can handle it until Smith is ready. Want no part of Wylie

[RunKC]

The guy was literally just in Hawaii with Patrick and Travis playing in Patrick’s charity golf tournament.

Did he get hammered out there and drop something on his knee or some shit?

[TribalElder]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I did everything I could to prepare to get back for football. Zero regrets. I’ve been getting better everyday and having so much fun with my new team. Focusing on controlling the things I can control. Yesterday was not one of those things! Thanks for the well wishes.</p>&mdash; Kyle (@Ky1eLong) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ky1eLong/status/1403008263344513026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Kman34]

They may be rookies but they're pretty highly touted. Play them. Let them learn and bring it along slowly.

This.. Smith and Creed are steals of this draft.. Play these studs...

[htismaqe]

I'm not surprised at all. This is who Long is. Before he retired, he missed a lot of time the last few years. He was a low risk high reward signing to begin with. That's why we have depth. LDT / Blythe (if he's not starting at Center) can handle it until Smith is ready. Want no part of Wylie

This.

I didn't want Long because I figured this would happen. Fortunately, they didn't stop with Long and they still have plenty of competition. He can be let go gently so there's no reason to worry about this at all.

[Gravedigger]

Too bad he's not on the Texans, they're done with their pre-season preparation, just waiting on the opener at this point.

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Correction: It&#39;s a lower-leg injury, but not a fractured kneecap. The timeline remains the same. Kyle Long has a chance to be ready Week 1. <a href="https://t.co/rDtjQPDoGE">https://t.co/rDtjQPDoGE</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1403007310859935752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[htismaqe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Correction: It&#39;s a lower-leg injury, but not a fractured kneecap. The timeline remains the same. Kyle Long has a chance to be ready Week 1. <a href="https://t.co/rDtjQPDoGE">https://t.co/rDtjQPDoGE</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1403007310859935752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Backup. No way he starts with zero reps in TC.

[carcosa]

SHIT!!!!!!! FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chris Meck]

Run the ball, play action, get it out quick etc.

So you want to change the entire offense?

No thanks.

[Kman34]

Backup. No way he starts with zero reps in TC.

I have no problem with him being a quality backup..

[Chris Meck]

We run shotgun 77% of the time. Mahomes blind side should be no problem with Brown and Thuney protecting it. He would have the whole right side right in his vision the whole time. If something goes wrong once in a while, Mahomes is a magician at improvising. Shouldn't be a huge issue I wouldn't think.

Relying on Mahomes to be magic is how we ended up getting our ass kicked in the Super Bowl.

He IS magic, but that should not be your gameplan.

[Titty Meat]

Boy bye

[-King-]

Backup. No way he starts with zero reps in TC.

Or cut. We have plenty of depth without him and what good is he for depth if he's almost for sure going to get injured again.

[Wallymo]

There's still a decent chance that Long will get to play his part before the season is done. With a 17 game schedule, plus the playoffs, it's likely someone on the line will need an injury replacement. Maybe multiple folks again. Assuming Long can get back by midseason, he may still end up as a valuable card to be played.

[ChiTown]

I'm good with LDT and Smith battling this out for the starting RG spot. If I'm being totally honest, I never really believed Kyle Long would remain healthy enough to be in the lineup anyway. I just assumed it would happen sometime during the course of the season. smh

[htismaqe]

Or cut. We have plenty of depth without him and what good is he for depth if he's almost for sure going to get injured again.

True. They really don't HAVE to do anything, he's on the cheap. So they have a ton of options and they're not really depending on him for anything, so it's still pretty much all upside.

[Marcellus]

He was a long shot to be a major contributor in the end anyway. Let him heal up and come back later in the season for depth if needed.

[Cosmos]

Guy is a fit……on LITR.

> < this close to cutting bait, and moving on.

We have been warned….we have a Watkins on the OL.

[TEX]

This.

I didn't want Long because I figured this would happen. Fortunately, they didn't stop with Long and they still have plenty of competition. He can be let go gently so there's no reason to worry about this at all.

Yep. I always figured best case he'd be quality depth anyway. I never had him as a starter. And, if you think about it, he could be the guy who could fill in for a couple games here & there. That might be realistically all he can handle, before he starts breaking down. But, if he can play at a decent level, it's not a bad thing. You're right, him being hurt is a non issue.

[srvy]

This is why we have depth. Plug LDT in as your starting RG.

Turdsnif needs to be replaced. I was hoping Long could hold it down till the youngun was ready.

[Coogs]

Relying on Mahomes to be magic is how we ended up getting our ass kicked in the Super Bowl.

He IS magic, but that should not be your gameplan.

If these guys are any good, he won't be running for his life. A play here and there? Maybe. All three of those guys have high marks coming out. Not developmental status.

[BlackOp]

Long is cheap veteran depth...this is why KC signed him.

Nothing has changed if he's ready by week one....SB is 6 months away from the season opener.

[The Franchise]

Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - Smith - Remmers.

That will be your week 1 starting offensive line.

[TEX]

Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - Smith - Remmers.

That will be your week 1 starting offensive line.

I doubt Reid goes with 2 rookies side by side. Bet Blythe is in there somewhere.

[Chris Meck]

Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - Smith - Remmers.

That will be your week 1 starting offensive line.

fucking hope not.

[Chris Meck]

Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - Smith - Remmers.

That will be your week 1 starting offensive line.

Brown-Thuney-Humphrey-LDT-Niang.

[TEX]

Brown-Thuney-Humphrey-LDT-Niang.

That or Blythe at C out of the gate.

[Bob Dole]

He fractured his kneecap. Jesus

Doing what? Playing golf?

[Chris Meck]

That or Blythe at C out of the gate.

I think Humphrey's upside wins that spot as long as he's got a vet on either side of him.

I think OC is more important than RG, which is why I would bet on Humphrey starting and not Smith to begin the season.

By midseason that could change if they're comfortable with Humphrey and Niang's progress and game smarts.

I just don't see Andy rolling with 60% rookies, and the entire center and right side being all rookies.

But I've been wrong a few times this offseason, so who knows.

I'd think he'll want a vet in between the two youngsters though, and I think Niang should beat out Remmers.

[mkp785]

I think Humphrey's upside wins that spot as long as he's got a vet on either side of him.

I think OC is more important than RG, which is why I would bet on Humphrey starting and not Smith to begin the season.

By midseason that could change if they're comfortable with Humphrey and Niang's progress and game smarts.

I just don't see Andy rolling with 60% rookies, and the entire center and right side being all rookies.

But I've been wrong a few times this offseason, so who knows.

I'd think he'll want a vet in between the two youngsters though, and I think Niang should beat out Remmers.

Blyth was pretty damn good with the Rams last year. I think he'll take the starters spot (for their season). Smith I think is the one that beats out his vet competition. Was there a major reason that he dropped? Projected for the 2nd round lol. He should ne able to take down the Frenchman -who is a FA anyway. Remmers and Niang should be a good battle but Lucas hasn't played real football in over 2 years....

Brown
Thuney
Blyth
Smith
Remmers

With Niang, and Creed getting mins this season as our relief for the starters. After the season, Blyth leaves (1 yr deal I think?) and Creed becomes our C for the next 12 years.

[gblowfish]

How exactly did he manage to fracture his kneecap? What was he doing?

[htismaqe]

Blyth was pretty damn good with the Rams last year. I think he'll take the starters spot (for their season). Smith I think is the one that beats out his vet competition. Was there a major reason that he dropped? Projected for the 2nd round lol. He should ne able to take down the Frenchman -who is a FA anyway. Remmers and Niang should be a good battle but Lucas hasn't played real football in over 2 years....

Brown
Thuney
Blyth
Smith
Remmers

With Niang, and Creed getting mins this season as our relief for the starters. After the season, Blyth leaves (1 yr deal I think?) and Creed becomes our C for the next 12 years.

Smith slid because of health concerns.

I agree with Meck. Humphrey's upside is off the charts and I think he wins that job. If Remmers wins the RT job, I could see Smith in the mix at RG but I don't think Andy rolls with Humphrey, Niang, AND Smith.

[Skyy God]

Blyth was pretty damn good with the Rams last year. I think he'll take the starters spot (for their season). Smith I think is the one that beats out his vet competition. Was there a major reason that he dropped? Projected for the 2nd round lol. He should ne able to take down the Frenchman -who is a FA anyway. Remmers and Niang should be a good battle but Lucas hasn't played real football in over 2 years....

Brown
Thuney
Blyth
Smith
Remmers

With Niang, and Creed getting mins this season as our relief for the starters. After the season, Blyth leaves (1 yr deal I think?) and Creed becomes our C for the next 12 years.

Given the Chiefs’ track record, they let him walk at the end of his rookie deal.

[TwistedChief]

It's so nice that this happens and we get to discuss which player on our roster should replace him rather than what brokedick retread we should be looking into.

[ChiTown]

It's so nice that this happens and we get to discuss which player on our roster should replace him rather than what brokedick retread we should be looking into.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/MdXl4KwZogSzAn6Xx4/200w.gif?cid=82a1493bdt0lkzfq7vit8ht15xdemsmcd97cp49rng8angwy&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

[htismaqe]

It's so nice that this happens and we get to discuss which player on our roster should replace him rather than what brokedick retread we should be looking into.

TROOF!

[mkp785]

Given the Chiefs’ track record, they let him walk at the end of his rookie deal.

Let's hope that that streak finally ends. Though I understand why they did it each time, it's still sucks as both players went on to have very productive times after they left us.

[mkp785]

Smith slid because of health concerns.

I agree with Meck. Humphrey's upside is off the charts and I think he wins that job. If Remmers wins the RT job, I could see Smith in the mix at RG but I don't think Andy rolls with Humphrey, Niang, AND Smith.

I'm still wary of someone winning the job after not playing football in 2 years. I can see Creed and LDT I guess but I still say the Remmers takes the RT. We'll see though. The C--->RT part of our Oline is by far the most interesting battle that will be going on in camp.

[O.city]

I want nothing to do with LDT at RG. He's been out for a year and now isn't coming to camp (granted I think thats because of border issues?).

I've never been a big fan as a player of his anyway. Seems overrated

[CasselGotPeedOn]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I did everything I could to prepare to get back for football. Zero regrets. I’ve been getting better everyday and having so much fun with my new team. Focusing on controlling the things I can control. Yesterday was not one of those things! Thanks for the well wishes.</p>&mdash; Kyle (@Ky1eLong) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ky1eLong/status/1403008263344513026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hopefully he didn't injure himself typing this tweet.

[Dunerdr]

Brown-Thuney-Humphrey-Remmers-Niang

Remmers was our week one starting RG last year was he not?

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Remmers
Allegretti
Reiter after we re-sign him to a multi year deal
Long with a prosthetic leg
Wylie

Let's go.

[ChiTown]

Remmers
Allegretti
Reiter after we re-sign him to a multi year deal
Long with a prosthetic leg
Wylie

Let's go.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/12P6AnN6DcQj1S/giphy.gif

[CasselGotPeedOn]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/12P6AnN6DcQj1S/giphy.gif

Which part?

[New World Order]

Remmers
Allegretti
Reiter after we re-sign him to a multi year deal
Long with a prosthetic leg
Wylie

Let's go.

LMAO

[Rasputin]

Have to feel for the guy, put in all that effort, have the talent, and your body just can't do it.

Luckily for the Chiefs it was early, so gives more gel opportunity for the guys that might stay healthy.



I think he would have made a good CBOTY candidate that would have made a feel good story but I didn't have any expectations of it.


Also I'm glad he can give up reps for the younger guys that need the reps so this is probably a blessing for Chiefs.

[FloridaMan88]

How exactly did he manage to fracture his kneecap? What was he doing?

The Sammy Watkins Brokedick Stretching Technique.

[Iconic]

Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - LDT - Niang

I imagine this is how the line looks at the start of the year. LDT may have been out for a year but there's no way they play 3 rookies on one side of the line and I'd rather LDT be in than Remmers or whoever the fuck else is left on the depth chart.

[Mecca]

Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - LDT - Niang

I imagine this is how the line looks at the start of the year. LDT may have been out for a year but there's no way they play 3 rookies on one side of the line and I'd rather LDT be in than Remmers or whoever the fuck else is left on the depth chart.

Blythe has a good chancd at the spot, he didn't sit a year and is a better guard than center.

[mkp785]

Smith slid because of health concerns.

I agree with Meck. Humphrey's upside is off the charts and I think he wins that job. If Remmers wins the RT job, I could see Smith in the mix at RG but I don't think Andy rolls with Humphrey, Niang, AND Smith.

I think Remmers is the best chance at taking the starters spot. Andy likes him and despite what ppl think here he wasn't terrible at RT. Everyone just remembers the Super Bowl and how godawful he was on the left side. He's fine for a year, while Niang learns how to play football again.

I had Long beating out LDT, but he can't stay healthy so I have no idea on that-I'm hoping for Smith though. Center, like I said Blyth was pretty good with the Rams but everyone is in agreement that Creed is awesome. I just feel like they won't start a rookie there if they have a perfectly good vet they can pair with Mahomes. It's title or bust this year, so why leave this stuff in a rookie's hands if you don't have to? Especially on the 2nd most important spot on the offensive line.

[MMXcalibur]

Injuries at this time of year?
This isn’t the Broncos message board.

[PHOG]

Brown-Thunney-Humphrey-Smith-Niang
They didn't draft and sign these fuckers to sit on the bench.

[mkp785]

Brown-Thunney-Humphrey-Smith-Niang
They didn't draft and sign these ****ers to sit on the bench.

Starting 3 rookies is a recipe for disaster. They didn't sign these FAs to sit on the bench.

[eDave]

LMAO

He makes Mr. Glass look like David Dunn.

FYP

[PHOG]

Starting 3 rookies is a recipe for disaster. They didn't sign these FAs to sit on the bench.
Says you, we'll see. 2-time All Big-12, 2-Time all SEC, and Niang. Plus..........Mahomes.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Kyle Long and injury

no one should be surprised

[Tribal Warfare]

During Andy's press conference multiple times Reid was asked how Trey Smith's progress going

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Smith is gonna be our RG isn’t he. What a fucking steal!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With Kyle long out until at least the regular season&#39;s start (I can confirm <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a> report, not that he needs it), watch for Trey Smith. <br><br>The Chiefs are very pleased with him, and now Smith has an opening at RG. I&#39;m told he&#39;s looked every bit the steal many thought he was</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1402995705199751173?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[DaneMcCloud]

Says you, we'll see. 2-time All Big-12, 2-Time all SEC, and Niang. Plus..........Mahomes.

That means absolutely nothing when it comes to the NFL.

Nothing.

Thousands upon thousands of acclaimed guys from every conference, including the SEC, have failed to live up to expectations in the NFL.

The Chiefs face some pretty damn good defenses to start the season so unless there are catastrophic injuries, I have a hard time believing that Andy Reid is going to start three rookies Week 1.

And Mahomes was destroyed in the Super Bowl and struggled with a toe injury well before that game. He needs experienced offensive lineman when facing the Ravens, Chargers and the Redskins defense, not three rookies on the entire right side of the line.

[scho63]

Did we cut this piece of shit yet?

[PHOG]

That means absolutely nothing when it comes to the NFL.

Nothing.

Thousands upon thousands of acclaimed guys from every conference, including the SEC, have failed to live up to expectations in the NFL.

The Chiefs face some pretty damn good defenses to start the season so unless there are catastrophic injuries, I have a hard time believing that Andy Reid is going to start three rookies Week 1.

And Mahomes was destroyed in the Super Bowl and struggled with a toe injury well before that game. He needs experienced offensive lineman when facing the Ravens, Chargers and the Redskins defense, not three rookies on the entire right side of the line.

You're probably right. But I think these are going to excel. Time will tell.

[RealSNR]

People forget how good LDT could be in the seasons he played next to Morse and Fulton. His biggest issue has been availability and nagging injuries.

If he's healthy, he's probably our most reliable RG at least for the near future. And yeah, that's even without having played for a full season. It won't take him long to get back what he had via NFL offseason conditioning.

As it is, he's got a no trade clause and a chunk of dead cap coming back to bite us if we cut him. If at all possible, the team probably wants him to play. Hell, it's possible he was the frontrunner at RG before Long got hurt, too.

[mkp785]

Smith is gonna be our RG isn’t he. What a ****ing steal!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With Kyle long out until at least the regular season&#39;s start (I can confirm <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a> report, not that he needs it), watch for Trey Smith. <br><br>The Chiefs are very pleased with him, and now Smith has an opening at RG. I&#39;m told he&#39;s looked every bit the steal many thought he was</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1402995705199751173?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 10, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

^^^
This is the rookie I predict will be our starter. Niang and Creed are gonna sit for a few.

[Stryker]

I honestly wasn't counting on him anyway.

Unfortunately this

[Chris Meck]

That means absolutely nothing when it comes to the NFL.

Nothing.

Thousands upon thousands of acclaimed guys from every conference, including the SEC, have failed to live up to expectations in the NFL.

The Chiefs face some pretty damn good defenses to start the season so unless there are catastrophic injuries, I have a hard time believing that Andy Reid is going to start three rookies Week 1.

And Mahomes was destroyed in the Super Bowl and struggled with a toe injury well before that game. He needs experienced offensive lineman when facing the Ravens, Chargers and the Redskins defense, not three rookies on the entire right side of the line.

I think that if Humphrey starts (and he probably should) and Niang wins the RT job (and he totally should) then you'd want a vet in between them and LDT would get the nod due to familiarity with the team, Mahomes, and the system.

I have zero doubt that Smith will win that spot perhaps even later in the season, certainly in 2022, but I think you want a vet in there that's seen anything a defense might throw at you.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

He'll be back when the season starts. But not as a starter. LDT just got his old job back.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Brown-Thunney-Humphrey-Smith-Niang
They didn't draft and sign these ****ers to sit on the bench.

LDT at RG is a given.

[RealSNR]

I haven't kept up on this, but is Smith's health thing 100% cleared? I remember reading that doctors gave him the ok to play football, but was there some wait-and-see period that pro teams may have wanted to conduct to make sure? Or is it one of those, "It was a problem, it got corrected, and now he's good as new" things?

[FloridaMan88]

LDT missing voluntary OTA’s is weak considering he is trying to return from an opt-out season.

He should have figured out the international entry logistics in advance if that’s the hold up.

The Chiefs have had a very high level of participation at their voluntary OTA’s overall.

[Kiimo]

I haven't kept up on this, but is Smith's health thing 100% cleared? I remember reading that doctors gave him the ok to play football, but was there some wait-and-see period that pro teams may have wanted to conduct to make sure? Or is it one of those, "It was a problem, it got corrected, and now he's good as new" things?

He hasn't had clots since 2018 and takes medication for it no but I don't think there's any way on knowing if they'll suddenly come back or not.

[Halfcan]

I haven't kept up on this, but is Smith's health thing 100% cleared? I remember reading that doctors gave him the ok to play football, but was there some wait-and-see period that pro teams may have wanted to conduct to make sure? Or is it one of those, "It was a problem, it got corrected, and now he's good as new" things?

Smith has stated he is on medication and is fine. Good thing other teams blew it out of proportion or we could not have got him.

Thuney said he and Creed are both explosive. :thumb:

[Titty Meat]

I'm a fan of Smith and may the best man win but to spend all those resources and have 2 rookies starting? Idk.

[New World Order]

I'm a fan of Smith and may the best man win but to spend all those resources and have 2 rookies starting? Idk.

Agreed. Could even be 3 if Niang takes over RT spot.

[BossChief]

The most talented line would be

Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - Smith - Niang

But the likely week 1 OL will be

Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - LDT - Remmers

But I have a strong suspicion that Remmers will have a “tight hamstring” (or the equivalent) in the final week of camp and Niang won’t give the job back.

[TEX]

That means absolutely nothing when it comes to the NFL.

Nothing.

Thousands upon thousands of acclaimed guys from every conference, including the SEC, have failed to live up to expectations in the NFL.

The Chiefs face some pretty damn good defenses to start the season so unless there are catastrophic injuries, I have a hard time believing that Andy Reid is going to start three rookies Week 1.

And Mahomes was destroyed in the Super Bowl and struggled with a toe injury well before that game. He needs experienced offensive lineman when facing the Ravens, Chargers and the Redskins defense, not three rookies on the entire right side of the line.

Yep. Cleveland, week 1, is no picnic either with Clowney and Garret.

[Tribal Warfare]

But I have a strong suspicion that Remmers will have a “tight hamstring” (or the equivalent) in the final week of camp and Niang won’t give the job back.


I'd say at max it'll be the Ravens game he'll get the nod

[JPH83]

I feel like it's a tough ask for Niang after two years out and after Remmers did pretty OK. I'd imagine LDT has a better shot at RG after a year because of being a known quantity.

Reckon it'll be Brown - Thuney - Blythe - DLT - Remmers or possibly Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - Blythe - Remmers.

Hope I'm wrong on Niang and even better if Smith beats out LDT and Blythe. Wylie is obviously an absolute no.

[Dunerdr]

I feel like it's a tough ask for Niang after two years out and after Remmers did pretty OK. I'd imagine LDT has a better shot at RG after a year because of being a known quantity.

Reckon it'll be Brown - Thuney - Blythe - DLT - Remmers or possibly Brown - Thuney - Humphrey - Blythe - Remmers.

Hope I'm wrong on Niang and even better if Smith beats out LDT and Blythe. Wylie is obviously an absolute no.

I think theres no chance Blythe gets the nod at this point.

[Chris Meck]

Why does everybody feel like it's a tough ask for Niang to start?

widely considered a first round talent, possibly the #1 OT in the draft until his injury (there are a few articles out there from before the injury talking about this), has been working out, working on specific techniques at the team's request, totally rehabbed now and healthy. And a year with the playbook and terminology.

I don't think it's a tough ask at all. I fully expect him to win that RT spot.

[-King-]

I think theres no chance Blythe gets the nod at this point.

Ay this point? It's only OTAs lol

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Yep. Cleveland, week 1, is no picnic either with Clowney and Garret.

Clowney sucks

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Brokedick is brokedick. No surprise here.

This was always gonna be a depth signing, no matter what anyone thought. Long is not a guy you can rely on being your starting guard. His body just isn't built for the long haul.

But he can still provide some quality depth and minutes off the bench to spare other guys and provide some quality play there when healthy (which again, used in a limited role, is possible).

It was always gonna end this way if the Chiefs stuck him there as the starter and left him there. He's a less reliable player than Osemele who we signed and stuck at left guard last year. Those guys are always ticking time bombs . . . . . just a matter of when.

[htismaqe]

Why does everybody feel like it's a tough ask for Niang to start?

widely considered a first round talent, possibly the #1 OT in the draft until his injury (there are a few articles out there from before the injury talking about this), has been working out, working on specific techniques at the team's request, totally rehabbed now and healthy. And a year with the playbook and terminology.

I don't think it's a tough ask at all. I fully expect him to win that RT spot.

I don't think it's going to be a tough task, relatively speaking.

I think he's facing better competition at RT than Humphrey is at OC. And I think Smith is a backup to start the season.

So really it comes down to Creed and Niang battling for starting spots and I think Niang's competition will be tougher than Humphrey's simply because Humphrey has less competition.

[Chris Meck]

I don't think it's going to be a tough task, relatively speaking.

I think he's facing better competition at RT than Humphrey is at OC. And I think Smith is a backup to start the season.

So really it comes down to Creed and Niang battling for starting spots and I think Niang's competition will be tougher than Humphrey's simply because Humphrey has less competition.

See, I would disagree that Niang has tougher competition.

Blythe has been a decent starting Center. Remmers was less than a dumpster fire at RT. I don't see that as tougher competition.

At any rate, I expect both Humphrey and Niang to win their spots.

[gblowfish]

I still don't understand how he managed to fracture his kneecap. What was he doing? How did it happen?

[htismaqe]

See, I would disagree that Niang has tougher competition.

Blythe has been a decent starting Center. Remmers was less than a dumpster fire at RT. I don't see that as tougher competition.

At any rate, I expect both Humphrey and Niang to win their spots.

I think they brought Blythe in to play RG ostensibly so that's part of my factor.

I also think you're underestimating Andy's proclivity to play "pet players" - guys he's really comfortable with - of which Remmers seems to be one. Remmers started 10 games at RT last season while Niang was sitting at home. I don't think you can discount that.

I don't think that means Niang won't win the job, I think he will. I just think Humphrey is ALREADY the favorite at OC whereas the other guys are still fighting for a spot.

[O.city]

Apparently smith is first man up at RG as of right now

Will that change when LDT comes back?

[htismaqe]

Apparently smith is first man up at RG as of right now

Will that change when LDT comes back?

It will be really interesting to see what they do with it.

I don't think they're going to start 3 guys on the right that have never played an NFL down.

I think Humphrey is a lock at OC. After that, I think Niang has the 2nd-best shot to win a starting job.

Which means Smith is the odd man out there. There's much more depth/competition at RG than at either RT or OC.

[oldman]

Apparently smith is first man up at RG as of right now

Will that change when LDT comes back?

Yes. It doesn't mean he's the starter all season, though. If Humphrey wins the starting C job, you can be sure LDT will be the starter Game 1 unless he comes back weak or gets injured in camp. I still think Remmers will start Game 1, but Niang will push him all season.

[Dunerdr]

I still don't understand how he managed to fracture his kneecap. What was he doing? How did it happen?

I think its changed to a lower leg injury now.

[O.city]

It will be really interesting to see what they do with it.

I don't think they're going to start 3 guys on the right that have never played an NFL down.

I think Humphrey is a lock at OC. After that, I think Niang has the 2nd-best shot to win a starting job.

Which means Smith is the odd man out there. There's much more depth/competition at RG than at either RT or OC.

Based on everything we're hearing, it may be a situation where there's just no way to keep him from starting, if he's that good.

I don't think LDT gets the RG spot. Look at all they've done bringing in guys. That doesn't lend much confidence.

[O.city]

Yes. It doesn't mean he's the starter all season, though. If Humphrey wins the starting C job, you can be sure LDT will be the starter Game 1 unless he comes back weak or gets injured in camp. I still think Remmers will start Game 1, but Niang will push him all season.

Once Andy sets his line, thats the starters unless there's an injury.

[Dunerdr]

Once Andy sets his line, thats the starters unless there's an injury.

I keep coming back to this. Unless theres an injury its not moving.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Based on everything we're hearing, it may be a situation where there's just no way to keep him from starting, if he's that good.

I don't think LDT gets the RG spot. Look at all they've done bringing in guys. That doesn't lend much confidence.

Absolutely correct. The only reason LDT hasn't been released is because it's a wash on the cap to do so. They'll let him come in and see if he's still physically able to do it but I can't see it happening. The guy was already slipping before taking a year off and I can't imagine he had much time to be working out while doing what he was during Covid.

There's a reason they brought in so many interior lineman. LDT not showing up for voluntary workouts says a lot, too. I think the guy is pretty much done with football. If Long had actually stayed healthy I think there's a good chance LDT wouldn't even have made the team. He still might not.

[DaneMcCloud]

Based on everything we're hearing

You mean, in OTA's?

LMAO

Some of you people have lost your goddamned minds.

This is a team with Super Bowl aspirations that just had the ever loving shit kicked out of the offensive line just 16 weeks ago. Andy is going to start the season with the best and most experienced guys, which does not include a 6th round guard, when there are at least two other capable starting guards (three, if Niang starts at Right Tackle).

It doesn't matter what the year says on the calendar, every fucking year, people fall in love with some late round/undrafted free agent and this year, it's Smith. And while he may become a quality and maybe even high quality right guard, the Chiefs are not going to start him next to a rookie center or what's essentially, a rookie right tackle, unless it's due to catastrophic injury.

The Browns, Ravens, Chargers and WFT's defensive line would eat three rookies all game long.

[DaneMcCloud]

Absolutely correct. The only reason LDT hasn't been released is because it's a wash on the cap to do so. They'll let him come in and see if he's still physically able to do it but I can't see it happening. The guy was already slipping before taking a year off and I can't imagine he had much time to be working out while doing what he was during Covid.

There's a reason they brought in so many interior lineman. LDT not showing up for voluntary workouts says a lot, too. I think the guy is pretty much done with football. If Long had actually stayed healthy I think there's a good chance LDT wouldn't even have made the team. He still might not.

Oh, give me a fucking break.

LDT is 6 year veteran and Super Bowl champion. The Chiefs aren't going to dump him, nor are they going to eat his salary when they have so little room left.

NFL players miss entire seasons due to injury all the motherfucking time and many come back at the same exact level as before. LDT wasn't injured, he opted out to help others. He's not recovering from a torn ligament or broken or fractured bone. He's a professional football player and as long as he's willing to play this season, he'll be the favorite to start at right guard.

Good grief.

[O.city]

You mean, in OTA's?

LMAO

Some of you people have lost your goddamned minds.

This is a team with Super Bowl aspirations that just had the ever loving shit kicked out of the offensive line just 16 weeks ago. Andy is going to start the season with the best and most experienced guys, which does not include a 6th round guard, when there are at least two other capable starting guards (three, if Niang starts at Right Tackle).

It doesn't matter what the year says on the calendar, every ****ing year, people fall in love with some late round/undrafted free agent and this year, it's Smith. And while he may become a quality and maybe even high quality right guard, the Chiefs are not going to start him next to a rookie center or what's essentially, a rookie right tackle, unless it's due to catastrophic injury.

The Browns, Ravens, Chargers and WFT's defensive line would eat three rookies all game long.

We shall see.

[Dunerdr]

Absolutely correct. The only reason LDT hasn't been released is because it's a wash on the cap to do so. They'll let him come in and see if he's still physically able to do it but I can't see it happening. The guy was already slipping before taking a year off and I can't imagine he had much time to be working out while doing what he was during Covid.

There's a reason they brought in so many interior lineman. LDT not showing up for voluntary workouts says a lot, too. I think the guy is pretty much done with football. If Long had actually stayed healthy I think there's a good chance LDT wouldn't even have made the team. He still might not.

This LDT not being at OTA's narrative has taken a very Lucas Niang opt out turn. If he comes here he cant go home until he quarantines for 2 weeks. More than likely he, a guy who knows the offense i might add, just doesnt want to tack months on to his time away when he can get in shape at home with his loved ones.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

This LDT not being at OTA's narrative has taken a very Lucas Niang opt out turn. If he comes here he cant go home until he quarantines for 2 weeks. More than likely he, a guy who knows the offense i might add, just doesnt want to tack months on to his time away when he can get in shape at home with his loved ones.

The OTAs issue wasn’t my main point.

I’m just not an LDT fan, never have been. He was already slipping before taking a year off and he’s starting at RG, I think it’s a weakness. Certainly not Andrew Wylie level weakness, but I was hoping Long would take the job and run with it.

We’ll see what kind of shape he comes into camp in. My hopes aren’t very high.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Oh, give me a ****ing break.

LDT is 6 year veteran and Super Bowl champion. The Chiefs aren't going to dump him, nor are they going to eat his salary when they have so little room left.

NFL players miss entire seasons due to injury all the mother****ing time and many come back at the same exact level as before. LDT wasn't injured, he opted out to help others. He's not recovering from a torn ligament or broken or fractured bone. He's a professional football player and as long as he's willing to play this season, he'll be the favorite to start at right guard.

Good grief.

Thank you for your always pleasant feedback.

[staylor26]

You mean, in OTA's?

LMAO

Some of you people have lost your goddamned minds.

This is a team with Super Bowl aspirations that just had the ever loving shit kicked out of the offensive line just 16 weeks ago. Andy is going to start the season with the best and most experienced guys, which does not include a 6th round guard, when there are at least two other capable starting guards (three, if Niang starts at Right Tackle).

It doesn't matter what the year says on the calendar, every fucking year, people fall in love with some late round/undrafted free agent and this year, it's Smith. And while he may become a quality and maybe even high quality right guard, the Chiefs are not going to start him next to a rookie center or what's essentially, a rookie right tackle, unless it's due to catastrophic injury.

The Browns, Ravens, Chargers and WFT's defensive line would eat three rookies all game long.

I agree with your overall point 100%, but to be fair, Smith isn’t your average late round pick. He likely would’ve been selected early on day 2 if it weren’t for health concerns.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

I agree with your overall point 100%, but to be fair, Smith isn’t your average late round pick. He likely would’ve been selected early on day 2 if it weren’t for health concerns.

Also, we're talking about the RG position here. If you're going to start a rookie anywhere on the line, that's the spot to do it.

Doesn't really matter, though. Reid is going to play whoever he's most comfortable with. If Smith goes out and plays at a higher level than anyone else at the position to the point where Andy gives him the job, then great. That means he truly earned it. If not, then so be it. Our starting RG isn't going to make or break the season either way.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

We shall see.

No, we shall not see.

You've 'lost your goddamn mind' for thinking a very talented rookie might win a starting job at a relatively low impact position like RG, a spot which at this point has no clear cut starter.

You may as well check yourself into a mental institution. :thumb:

[DaneMcCloud]

No, we shall not see.

You've 'lost your goddamn mind' for thinking a very talented rookie might win a starting job at a relatively low impact position like RG, a spot which at this point has no clear cut starter.

You may as well check yourself into a mental institution. :thumb:

Yeah, because Andy Reid is going to start THREE rookies in 2021.

:facepalm:

Just plug Trey Smith in and don't worry about the position for the next 15 years.

JFC, talk about hyperbole.

Even Will Shields didn't last 15 years. Good fucking grief.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Yeah, because Andy Reid is going to start THREE rookies in 2021.

:facepalm:



JFC, talk about hyperbole.

Even Will Shields didn't last 15 years. Good ****ing grief.

Who said he was going to start 3 rookies? I don't think Niang is starting at RT, personally. Andy is much more likely to start inexperienced lineman at guard than tackle.

Just relax man, this is OTA offensive line discussion. Nobody has a clue what's going to happen. Very few people thought there would be a complete overhaul of the entire line a few months ago either and look what happened there. That was not very Andy Reid-ish.

A lot of things Andy 'would never do' have changed over the past few years. He might surprise us again.

[jettio]

Nobody here has watched any practice.

Humphrey, Smith and Niang starting is possible week 1 and assuming no injuries to those 3 players, it is very likely that they are starting after the bye and through the playoffs.

The best thing about LDT was his physical toughness and playing to the whistle. Smith may be more physical.

I hope I can find some loudmouth who thinks he knows everything to give me big odds on the bet that the Chiefs will not start Humphrey, Smith and Niang in any game during the 2021 season.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Nobody here has watched any practice.

Humphrey, Smith and Niang starting is possible week 1 and assuming no injuries to those 3 players, it is very likely that they are starting after the bye and through the playoffs.

The best thing about LDT was his physical toughness and playing to the whistle. Smith may be more physical.

I hope I can find some loudmouth who thinks he knows everything to give me big odds on the bet that the Chiefs will not start Humphrey, Smith and Niang in any game during the 2021 season.

A lot this is based on preconceived notions about Andy Reid. It's understandable. He has always done things a certain way, at least up until a few years ago.

However, he is clearly evolving in a lot of ways. If Humphrey, Smith and Niang all look like superior players to anyone else at those spots, I don't see why they wouldn't play either.

Andy always says he's going to pick the 5 best guys on the o-line and play them. We'll see if that rule stands firm if 3 of those best guys happen to be rookies.

[poolboy]

Are we forgetting about Allegreti in all this?

[ModSocks]

Are we forgetting about Allegreti in all this?

Who's that?

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Are we forgetting about Allegreti in all this?

It's a good point, by the end of last year he was clearly our best interior lineman.

We've added so many pieces though that I can't see him being more than a backup now, but certainly a valuable one.

[BossChief]

Allegreti is a poor pass protector.

I’d bet on him being traded.

There simply aren’t enough roster spots.

[Dunerdr]

Are we forgetting about Allegreti in all this?

No, he and Andre Wylie are going to do Oklahoma drills to determine the last interior spot on the line.

[oldman]

Until we see who lines up where after the 1st week of TC, it's all speculation and high hopes. Right now all we know (barring injury) is Brown the LT and Thuney is the LG.

That said, I would expect to see at least one of our rookies in the starting lineup mid-season.

[Skyy God]

Until we see who lines up where after the 1st week of TC, it's all speculation and high hopes. Right now all we know (barring injury) is Brown the LT and Thuney is the LG.

That said, I would expect to see at least one of our rookies in the starting lineup mid-season.

If the Chiefs thought Creed wasn’t ready, they wouldn’t have wasted 1st string snaps on him at OTAs. Blythe would need to develop chemistry with Mahomes as well.

Smith and Niang are the question marks.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

If the Chiefs thought Creed wasn’t ready, they wouldn’t have wasted 1st string snaps on him at OTAs. Blythe would need to develop chemistry with as well.

Smith and Niang are the question marks.

Oh yeah, Humphrey is a day one starter without question. You don't draft a center in the 2nd round to sit on the bench behind a guy like Blythe. Barring injury, he's your center.

Between Smith and Niang, I think if one of those two win a starting job day one you'd have to be pretty thrilled. Certainly next year you have a C, RG & RT trio with elite talent across the board making next to nothing salary wise, which is exactly what you need when you're paying Thuney $80 million and most likely are giving Brown one of the biggest LT deals in history.

[smithandrew051]

Most would agree that Blythe is about the same quality as Reiter overall. Better run blocker, worse pass blocker. Fine player, not great though.

Absolutely awesome to have that guy as your back up center though. Very underrated move.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Most would agree that Blythe is about the same quality as Reiter overall. Better run blocker, worse pass blocker. Fine player, not great though.

Absolutely awesome to have that guy as your back up center though. Very underrated move.

And backup guard. He can fill in at all 3 interior positions.

Very nice player to have especially as dirt cheap as he is.

[Chris Meck]

It will be really interesting to see what they do with it.

I don't think they're going to start 3 guys on the right that have never played an NFL down.

I think Humphrey is a lock at OC. After that, I think Niang has the 2nd-best shot to win a starting job.

Which means Smith is the odd man out there. There's much more depth/competition at RG than at either RT or OC.

Dat's what I'm sayin'.

[Chris Meck]

No, he and Andre Wylie are going to do Oklahoma drills to determine the last interior spot on the line.

Alegretti would fucking destroy Wylie in Oklahoma drills.

[Oxford]

Alegretti would ****ing destroy Wylie in Oklahoma drills.

Somewhere Marty is smiling..............

[JakeF]

Oh, give me a fucking break.

LDT is 6 year veteran and Super Bowl champion. The Chiefs aren't going to dump him, nor are they going to eat his salary when they have so little room left.

NFL players miss entire seasons due to injury all the motherfucking time and many come back at the same exact level as before. LDT wasn't injured, he opted out to help others. He's not recovering from a torn ligament or broken or fractured bone. He's a professional football player and as long as he's willing to play this season, he'll be the favorite to start at right guard.

Good grief.
LDT opted out last year and then decided to not attend voluntary camp this year.

That doesn't bode well for his dedication.

I'm not sure why they put Trey Smith at LG on the depth chart but i'm hoping he plays so well in TC that they have him switch sides and start at RG.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Alegretti would ****ing destroy Wylie in Oklahoma drills.

It would be hilarious to watch. Wylie is such a goddamn pussy. No idea why and how he is still on this team, especially with a $3 million tender.

[New World Order]

How did Blythe do at guard?

[-King-]

How did Blythe do at guard?

According to Rams forums/articles, almost ProBowl level his first year and solid but slightly worse than the first year in his second. Then he got moved to center.

[DaneMcCloud]

LDT opted out last year and then decided to not attend voluntary camp this year.

That doesn't bode well for his dedication.

:facepalm:

If LDT leaves the Canada, he has to quarantine for two weeks before re-entering.

Your bullshit speculation knows no bounds.

[DaneMcCloud]

It would be hilarious to watch. Wylie is such a goddamn pussy. No idea why and how he is still on this team, especially with a $3 million tender.

It's clearly because you know more about NFL offensive lineman than Andy Reid.

[smithandrew051]

I heard a little bit of Teicher on the radio today explaining how losing Long creates a major question mark along the OL for the Chiefs. I swear that dude has a Haglund’s Deformity on his brain.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

It's clearly because you know more about NFL offensive lineman than Andy Reid.

Never once made that claim. It’s a Chiefs message board where average fans go to express their uneducated opinions. That’s literally the one and only purpose of this sites existence.

I’m really sorry that upsets you so much.

[DaneMcCloud]

Never once made that claim. It’s a Chiefs message board where average fans go to express their uneducated opinions. That’s literally the one and only purpose of this sites existence.

I’m really sorry that upsets you so much.

Upset me?

LMAO

I think you're nothing more than moronic homer with your head up your ass in 99% of the topics in which you post.

You're like a slightly older Mahomo.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Upset me?

LMAO

I think you're nothing more than moronic homer with your head up your ass in 99% of the topics in which you post.

You're like a slightly older Mahomo.

Thank you for your insight.

[Titty Meat]

1 good thing about covid was no OTAs or pre season. Alot of you are retarded and put way too much emphasis on this shit and "reports"

[srvy]

I heard a little bit of Teicher on the radio today explaining how losing Long creates a major question mark along the OL for the Chiefs. I swear that dude has a Haglund’s Deformity on his brain.

A healthy inspired Long could easily challenge for RG or even RT. I have no doubt he could win either of those starting positions and hold them down as long as healthy, but he is glass.

This O-line was embarrassed in the Superbowl and could have severely injured there once in a generation QB. It bordered on malpractice how they handled their interior line. Then their corner tackles broke down and had no reliable depth. No one on the right side of the line is a lock. This offseason proves they knew they had a problem that needed fixing if they wanted to save their once in a generation QB.

[srvy]

Also, LDT knew the covid quarantine protocol in Canada and had ample time to make arrangements. Apparently he had no intention of attending the voluntary minicamp. Now we don't know if he had the blessings of the Chiefs or not. I do know it was reported that they were light on offensive linemen and some drills were not possible. So that doesn't look too good on his part but it was his right to opt out. We will see how he works out.

[Halfcan]

Also, LDT knew the covid quarantine protocol in Canada and had ample time to make arrangements. Apparently he had no intention of attending the voluntary minicamp. Now we don't know if he had the blessings of the Chiefs or not. I do know it was reported that they were light on offensive linemen and some drills were not possible. So that doesn't look too good on his part but it was his right to opt out. We will see how he works out.

LDT has never attended the OTA's before.

[srvy]

LDT has never attended the OTA's before.

I didn't know this. Seems dedicated to a craft but not football apparently. He is not a dummy. His chosen true passion will be a lot less damaging to his body and this hobby can easily pay for his medical school plus leave a solid nest egg.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

A healthy inspired Long could easily challenge for RG or even RT. I have no doubt he could win either of those starting positions and hold them down as long as healthy, but he is glass.

This O-line was embarrassed in the Superbowl and could have severely injured there once in a generation QB. It bordered on malpractice how they handled their interior line. Then their corner tackles broke down and had no reliable depth. No one on the right side of the line is a lock. This offseason proves they knew they had a problem that needed fixing if they wanted to save their once in a generation QB.

It’s definitely a shame. A healthy Long at RG would have been a difference maker. Who knows, maybe he recovers in time to make an impact. Obviously you’re not getting 16 games out of him but he’s easily the best option at RG on paper.

I just feel bad for the guy. He certainly didn’t need to come back for money. He just loves football. He worked his ass off to turn into an athletic freak and then chips his kneecap or some weird shit. Just sucks for everyone.

[Halfcan]

I didn't know this. Seems dedicated to a craft but not football apparently. He is not a dummy. His chosen true passion will be a lot less damaging to his body and this hobby can easily pay for his medical school plus leave a solid nest egg.

On 610- they said the Chiefs gave him a pass because of medical school- but he Has attended all mandatory events and practices.

It won't matter, Trey Smith will take his lunch money and his spot on the line.

"The dude is a beast!" Mahomes

[Megatron96]

I was hoping that Long would be able to stay healthy. He had a good career as a top tier OL.

[Halfcan]

I was hoping that Long would be able to stay healthy. He had a good career as a top tier OL.

:thumb:

Have they even said what exactly happened to his knee and the extent of the injury?

[oldman]

Is it his knee or his lower leg? The first reports were a broken kneecap, but I had one of those and it wasn't all that big a deal since there was no ligament damage. I was on crutches for about 10 days, then switched to a cane for 4 weeks.

[Chiefaholic]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3kmrq7WQAAXJwO?format=jpg&name=large

[kccrow]

Brokedick gonna brokedick.

[TEX]

Is it his knee or his lower leg? The first reports were a broken kneecap, but I had one of those and it wasn't all that big a deal since there was no ligament damage. I was on crutches for about 10 days, then switched to a cane for 4 weeks.

At first they said knee, then it changed to lower leg.

[Wilson8]

Chiefs sign OT Wyatt Miller.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyatt_Miller

[eDave]

Brokedick gonna brokedick.

He's no Alex Smith. You fail to comeback from this and Alex gonna neg on you.

[MahomesMagic]

I am fine with Trey Smith winning the job and never looking back.

Trey Smith's Progress Could Accelerate Chiefs' Youth Movement Along Offensive Line
As the Kansas City Chiefs continue preparing for the 2021 season, rookie offensive lineman Trey Smith has received glowing reviews from OTAs.
JORDAN FOOTEJUN 13, 20

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/gm-report/trey-smith-could-accelerate-the-kansas-city-chiefs-o-line-youth-movement

[FloridaMan88]

If LDT leaves the Canada, he has to quarantine for two weeks before re-entering.

So what?

He could have stayed in KC for the past month to participate in the voluntary OTA’s… that 90% of his team mates participated in and then this week’s mandatory minicamp.

[DaneMcCloud]

So what?

He could have stayed in KC for the past month to participate in the voluntary OTA’s… that 90% of his team mates participated in and then this week’s mandatory minicamp.

I really couldn't care less because it's not my decision and I'm not LDT

[DaneMcCloud]

LDT is in KC. He had quick presser today and said he really missed football.

[RealSNR]

Reid loves a veteran OL.

People are writing off LDT, but as long as he doesn’t suck total shit, he’ll be a serious consideration at starting RG.

If the training camp depth chart (yeah, the one that means nothing) comes out with LDT on first team, don’t act surprised

[RunKC]

After what happened last year I really don’t care that LDT is back. Fill the depth chart with proven players. Allegretti and Wylie can’t be on the field.

Hell bring back Osemele on the vet minimum and put his ass on the practice squad. Worst case scenario Armegedon happens and we have 4 guards injured and need his ass for a small stretch.

Sure beats the alternative

[New World Order]

Reid loves a veteran OL.

People are writing off LDT, but as long as he doesn’t suck total shit, he’ll be a serious consideration at starting RG.

If the training camp depth chart (yeah, the one that means nothing) comes out with LDT on first team, don’t act surprised

My hope is that there's a veteran at RG then Niang starting at RT:

Brown Thuney Humphrey LDT Niang

[Halfcan]

LDT is in KC. He had quick presser today and said he really missed football.

Great interview- LDT is going for his Masters at Harvard now.

He said he is lifting more weight than he ever did and hopes it transfers over to the field.

He knows he has to compete for that spot and is going to give his best.

[Chris Meck]

My hope is that there's a veteran at RG then Niang starting at RT:

Brown Thuney Humphrey LDT Niang

this is my expectation.

[RealSNR]

After what happened last year I really don’t care that LDT is back. Fill the depth chart with proven players. Allegretti and Wylie can’t be on the field.

Hell bring back Osemele on the vet minimum and put his ass on the practice squad. Worst case scenario Armegedon happens and we have 4 guards injured and need his ass for a small stretch.

Sure beats the alternative

Lol. You're really going to throw the baby out with the bathwater with Allegretti?

He's decent for a backup. You're being a drama queen.

[Rasputin]

Reid loves a veteran OL.

People are writing off LDT, but as long as he doesn’t suck total shit, he’ll be a serious consideration at starting RG.

If the training camp depth chart (yeah, the one that means nothing) comes out with LDT on first team, don’t act surprised


I'm not writing off LDT I think he is a very viable starting RG and that he was on our Super Bowl winning team says something about him. Also a guy we missed that would have been a difference in points in the Super Bowl because we would have had a staring RG at the job.

[Dunerdr]

Lol. You're really going to throw the baby out with the bathwater with Allegretti?

He's decent for a backup. You're being a drama queen.

I thought he played pretty well for a back up, and could possibly take another step after some starting time and an offseason to digest it.

[htismaqe]

After what happened last year I really don’t care that LDT is back. Fill the depth chart with proven players. Allegretti and Wylie can’t be on the field.

Hell bring back Osemele on the vet minimum and put his ass on the practice squad. Worst case scenario Armegedon happens and we have 4 guards injured and need his ass for a small stretch.

Sure beats the alternative

There is no reason to bring back Osemele. He's no different than Long at this point.

[TEX]

There is no reason to bring back Osemele. He's no different than Long at this point.

Proved it last year.

[Chief Roundup]

After what happened last year I really don’t care that LDT is back. Fill the depth chart with proven players. Allegretti and Wylie can’t be on the field.

Hell bring back Osemele on the vet minimum and put his ass on the practice squad. Worst case scenario Armegedon happens and we have 4 guards injured and need his ass for a small stretch.

Sure beats the alternative

You can't be blaming the injuries and how the season turned out on LDT opting out????

They have already said that they will not be able to have veterans on the PS this year. They were last year because of Covid but that is over.

[staylor26]

You can't be blaming the injuries and how the season turned out on LDT opting out????

They have already said that they will not be able to have veterans on the PS this year. They were last year because of Covid but that is over.

I think he’s saying that after all the injuries last year he doesn’t care that LDT is back because it might not be enough.

[PunkinDrublic]

This signing is looking more and more like Kyle Turley 2.0.

[RealSNR]

This signing is looking more and more like Kyle Turley 2.0.

Kyle Turley actually played in a game for the Chiefs.

It's debatable if Long will ever get that chance. Even if he comes back and stays healthy, the Chiefs will have moved on to find their starter in training camp, and might not be inclined to move that guy back to the bench if he's doing well.

[Dunerdr]

Remember all the Kyle Turley hype? "His shoulder pads are stretched tight, you can barely tell that he has them on because hes in such good shape."

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Remember all the Kyle Turley hype? "His shoulder pads are stretched tight, you can barely tell that he has them on because hes in such good shape."

I honestly remember a lot of fans at the time saying ridiculous things like "We'll barely even miss Roaf..."

Good stuff.

[htismaqe]

Kyle Turley actually played in a game for the Chiefs.

It's debatable if Long will ever get that chance. Even if he comes back and stays healthy, the Chiefs will have moved on to find their starter in training camp, and might not be inclined to move that guy back to the bench if he's doing well.

Long was brought in here to compete knowing his injury history.

What happened was expected. It doesn't really change anything, he's headed to the bench and the questions have been answered.

I agree, they're going to find a starter and never look back.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

In all seriousness, the Chiefs site put out a little promo spot of LDT and he looks to be in pretty good condition. If he can come in and just be average at right guard we should be fine.

If a right side of LDT/Remmers is the absolute worst we can do, we're in pretty good shape. Just no more damn injuries please.