Call Your Shot: Who's the Chiefs first pick?

[staylor26]

Rule: You can change your answer up until next Thursday!

This might be the toughest year yet for this. I can see so many different possibilities, especially considering that I think there's a solid chance the Chiefs trade up.

Edit: It's draft day and I'm changing my pick!

Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia

There's way too much smoke about the Chiefs trading up and/or them targeting a LT. I'm going with a guy that I think could make it into our range, who also has the kind of upside that would have Veach itching to make a move to go get him.

[The Franchise]

Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU

[smithandrew051]

I think we’re making a splash and moving up.

Brian Thomas Jr.

[Red Dawg]

Trade back and pick the next Sky Moore from jack shit university.

[staylor26]

Trade back and pick the next Sky Moore from jack shit university.

LMAO

What a miserable cunt.

[FloridaMan88]

Brock Bowers.

Aspirational prediction.

[In58men]

WR Xavier Legette

[Otter]

WR Xavier Legette


This is my bet as well.

[DJay23]

Trade back

[Dunerdr]

A trade up to 19 with he Rams for Mims. Then Pearsall or Roman wilson to follow it up.

[tyton75]

I think we trade up for a LT, Guyton or Mims.

[staylor26]

A trade up to 19 with he Rams for Mims. Then Pearsall or Roman wilson to follow it up.

Ohh me likey.

[Dunerdr]

Ohh me likey.

Unlikely but the Rams are always a bit of a wild card.

[Balto]

I also think we trade up to #19 with Rams..but also get Kupp coming back to KC as well!

#19) Mims + Kupp

[Dunerdr]

I also think we trade up to #19 with Rams..but also get Kupp coming back to KC as well!

#19) Mims + Kupp

I'm sick of your shit, but i'd take it. I'd bitch about it but I'd take it.

[Otter]

I think we trade up for a LT, Guyton or Mims. Hoe cool would Joe Alt be for lore and legacy. I know, I know but it's fun to imagine.

[Dunerdr]

Hoe cool would Joe Alt be for lore and legacy. I know, I know but it's fun to imagine.

We should get right of first refusal just for those reasons.

[ChiTown]

Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU

Great minds...

[kccrow]

Veach got all my texts...

WR Brian Thomas Jr., LSU

[RunKC]

One thing I’m confident about is Veach wanting to trade up. He’s done it almost every year he’s been here. All these guys were trade ups: Breeland Speaks, Mecole Hardman, Nick Bolton, Trent McDuffie, Rashee Rice. He’s traded up in the 1st or 2nd rd all but 2020.

6 straight picks from 22-27 are all NFC teams and I think that’s the sweet spot.

BTJ will be gone so I have to think it’s for a tackle

[tyton75]

Fun/free mock draft simulator if you guys are big nerds about the draft like I am:

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft

[smithandrew051]

The Chiefs should actually be awarded the first overall pick imho

[DJ's left nut]

Veach will try to move up, the cost to get to 16 will be too steep, the teams from about 17-20 won't deal with KC and by 22 and beyond the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

So the Chiefs stay put at 32 and take Jordan Morgan, OT - Arizona.

[In58men]

I feel like there’s no need to trade up. We’re not desperate and we’re not a player or two away from the Super Bowl.

If anything we trade back to acquire more picks.

[Womble]

I think we stay put and draft Legette as an MVS replacement. If Veach thinks he can get his guy in early-mid 2nd round we'll trade down.

[Jerm]

Brian Thomas Jr.

[KC Hawks]

I think we'll trade up for Mims.

[Tribal Warfare]

If it's a trade up it'll either be Olu Fashanu or Mims

If they stay at #32, it'll either be Mitchell or McConkey

[Wallymo]

Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU

Very much agreed. Everyone talks about how deep this WR class is but downplays the fact that OT prospects that would go in the top 15 in other years might actually be available closer to the end of the first round. There's no way Veach allows another year of uncertainty when it's actually possible to fix the glaring problem at a low cost for five years.

[Perineum Ripper]

Kingsley Suamataia, OT, BYU



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[RunKC]

Yeah Brian Thomas Jr is gonna go in the teens and I don’t think we’ll be able to pull off a trade that high.

I’m thinking a trade up for Tyler Guyton who is the ideal LT type and most scouts think he’ll have no problem playing LT.

[wazu]

I feel like there’s no need to trade up. We’re not desperate and we’re not a player or two away from the Super Bowl.

If anything we trade back to acquire more picks.

There's nothing "desperate" about trading up if there's somebody that we love. And we actually are exactly a player or two away from the Super Bowl. We just went to the Super Bowl that we won in OT, and then we lost a couple of good players.

[Coogs]

There's nothing "desperate" about trading up if there's somebody that we love. And we actually are exactly a player or two away from the Super Bowl. We just went to the Super Bowl that we won in OT, and then we lost a couple of good players.

Last year around this time, Veach said there was someone in this draft they loved.

[staylor26]

I feel like there’s no need to trade up. We’re not desperate and we’re not a player or two away from the Super Bowl.

If anything we trade back to acquire more picks.

If they do trade up, it's not out of desperation.

[DaFace]

LMAO

What a miserable cunt.

There are times I wish we could force user subtitles on people. "Miserable Cunt" is an excellent description for Red Dawg.

[staylor26]

There are times I wish we could force user subtitles on people. "Miserable Cunt" is an excellent description for Red Dawg.


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[RedinTexas]

I'm thinking the Chiefs will trade up, but not in the first round. There will probably be several decent WR still available at #32. We'll then trade up in the second round. Maybe with Arizona at #35. The Cardinals have pick #4 and pick #27 so we'll give them a 2025 pick as part of the compensation since they'll have already picked their biggest needs and with 11 overall picks will be willing to move a pick or two to next year's draft.

[kccrow]

There's nothing "desperate" about trading up if there's somebody that we love. And we actually are exactly a player or two away from the Super Bowl. We just went to the Super Bowl that we won in OT, and then we lost a couple of good players.

I 100% agree. I don't really understand the notion of saying we're not a team that is 1 or 2 players away. I think a team that has been there like us, consistently, is usually 1 or 2 players away from being there again. A team that hasn't been in the playoffs or is in a reset of sorts (a la Buffalo) is the type that maybe wouldn't be as apt to throw caution to the wind and go for broke on a superstar/stud. Teams like them need to fill multiple holes.

We have two really glaring holes... sure we need to always address depth but we don't need to fix it all right now. We're talking about going for a f'n 3-peat. If it costs me a 2nd and future 3rd to go up and get A guy, I'm going for it.

I was looking specifically at this list of players yesterday and thought to myself, no matter what we do in terms of going for broke for a guy, there's still options out there elsewhere to backfill with:

RB Boston Scott
RB Matt Breida

WR Tyler Boyd
WR Mecole Hardman
WR Odell Beckham Jr

OT Donovan Smith
OT Mekhi Becton
OT/G Andrus Peat

CB Adoree Jackson
CB Akhello Witherspoon

Move up for Fautanu or Thomas and worry about the rest as it comes. That's my 2 cents.

[DaFace]

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Eh, we can technically change them, but the user can instantly change it back, so it kind of ruins the fun.

[Smed1065]

There are times I wish we could force user subtitles on people. "Miserable Cunt" is an excellent description for Red Dawg. U can change the names tho? :)

[DrunkBassGuitar]

whoever the Bills are planning to use their first pick on

[Tribal Warfare]

If it's a trade up it'll either be Olu Fashanu or Mims

If they stay at #32, it'll either be Mitchell or McConkey


Furthermore, the Chiefs do stay at #32 and select a WR, IMO they'll definitely trade up for a potential LT Patrick Paul or Kingsley Suamataia

[Toad]

Mr. Brian Thomas Jr

[gordonelloyd]

I think we will get a OT, our top need either at 16 with a trade up or at 32 standing foot. Looking at it in more detail:

Trade up to 16 ideally for Bowers or if he’s gone for one of the five top tackles, if available [Alt, the 3 Fs, Latham]. If we can’t trade up for that value stick at 32 and pick the best remaining top tackle or WR if somebody really good falls that far.

We don’t need to reach for a WR. With brown, whatever we get from rice and hopefully signing Renfrew, we will have so much better a WR room than last year.

[el borracho]

whoever the Bills are planning to use their first pick on

That has become one of my favorite draft day traditions, lol.

[el borracho]

1st pick: Guyton or Suamataia
trade up in the 2nd for Leggette

[The Franchise]

I really think the Bills are going to have PTSD about us trading in front of them. That's going to cause them to overpay to trade up for a guy like BTJ.

[BWillie]

Keon Coleman, WR

[PHOG]

If he's still there, trade up with the Cardinals @27 in front of the Dildos, and pick Brian Thomas jr. but I doubt he's still there. Otherwise, take whoever OT is left at 32, and then trade up in the 2nd for our rookie WR. Rice probably won't be here when we need him to start the season, but who knows? Roger Goodell, that's who.

[TLO]

WR Brian Thomas Jr

[SAGA45]

Trade up - OT Amarius Mims

Stay put - WR Xavier Leggette

Trade down - F**k that

[Palangi]

Troy Franklin

[Chris Meck]

Trade up - OT Amarius Mims

Stay put - WR Xavier Leggette

Trade down - F**k that

Shit, I would gladly trade down if someone wanted the 5th year on a QB. Pick up an extra 3rd? It's a good draft. Count me in!

[redfan]

BFA, best fatty available.

[staylor26]

Shit, I would gladly trade down if someone wanted the 5th year on a QB. Pick up an extra 3rd? It's a good draft. Count me in!

The chances of getting a 3rd after a trade out of the 1st are very slim. Much more likely to be a 4th, and hardly worth it IMO.

[RunKC]

The chances of getting a 3rd after a trade out of the 1st are very slim. Much more likely to be a 4th, and hardly worth it IMO.

Veach talking about older NIL players filling the back half of the draft seems like he doesn’t intend to use many picks on day 3.

[RedinTexas]

Veach talking about older NIL players filling the back half of the draft seems like he doesn’t intend to use many picks on day 3.

If he's right that the back end of the draft has been thinned by NIL, that would imply that the draft will thicken up with prospects in the near future. He might make deals that give us back end picks in 2025 or 2026.

[JPH83]

Troy Franklin. In some ways I don't see him as an obvious pick, or Chiefs WR. My total guess is they look to move up for a LT and have no trade partners, consider going up for someone like Brian Thomas Jr and, again, get rebuffed. What they're then left with is a load of RTs with potential but too many questions for their liking, and 2-3 WRs they like. They've met Franklin I believe and I could see them liking his versatility as a guy who has the required athleticism, good route running but also can beat man and zone in a way the other options can't.

...almost certainly they'll now go for a CB.

[Direckshun]

Xavier Worthy

[DJ's left nut]

Trade up - OT Amarius Mims

Stay put - WR Xavier Leggette

Trade down - F**k that

If you're looking at Leggette then there's no reason at all not to trade down.

I'd be surprised if he went before 50 (and absolutely shocked if the Chiefs took him at 32).

[scho63]

I think 80% want a WR, 10% want a LT and 10% a TE for replacing Kelce.

I think we cover off all 3 in the draft.

I know every "expert" here says I am ass for wanting to trade up for a great WR but if somehow a Rome Odzune dropped to like 15, I would want to try and get someone like him.

Highly unlikely but one can dream.

[Mecca]

If you're looking at Leggette then there's no reason at all not to trade down.

I'd be surprised if he went before 50 (and absolutely shocked if the Chiefs took him at 32).

People are saying it because in ESPN's last 3 round mock that Field Yates and Kiper did they had Leggette to the Chiefs at 32.

[scho63]

Also, Rashee Rice fuck things up for us short term and makes us slighly more needy than we had to be.

[ModSocks]

Im a Legette homer, he was my initial draft crush not counting the Big 4.

But damn, with that said, i think he's a mid 2nd to mid 3rd round kinda guy. Not sure where all this 1st round talk is coming from.

I mean if the Chiefs take him then i'll readily admit i was wrong but i really dont expect him to go in the 1st. I dont even expect him to go high in the 2nd.

[Sassy Squatch]

In other draft related news, sounds like Jayden Daniels is trying to work his way down the board. Agent is tweeting out quite a bit about how they're not happy with how the Commanders handled their visit.

Buzz is he really wants LV to be with Antonio Pierce.

[DJ's left nut]

I think 80% want a WR, 10% want a LT and 10% a TE for replacing Kelce.

I think we cover off all 3 in the draft.

I know every "expert" here says I am ass for wanting to trade up for a great WR but if somehow a Rome Odzune dropped to like 15, I would want to try and get someone like him.

Highly unlikely but one can dream.

If we trade up it's for Thomas, Latham or Fuatanu, IMO.

I don't think we can get up to Fashanu (know we can't get up to Alt). And like you, I don't think we can get up to the Big 3 at WR.

Thomas is the clear WR4, IMO. And I think Fuatanu is probably LT3 in this draft (there's too much projection required in Latham and probably Fuaga as well, IMO).

And I still think either of them would have to make it past Jacksonville and Cincy to the Rams spot where they may be interested in collecting more capital since they haven't had a 1st rounder in awhile.

That'll cost you this year's 3rd and next year's 2nd, IMO. You might get something like 155 back in the deal, but the meat of the deal will be 32, 95 and the 2025 2nd rounder to get up there. And that presumes either of those guys get that far.

You have maybe a 30% chance of one of them getting that far, IMO.

And ultimately that's why I just don't see a trade up as being very likely.

[DJ's left nut]

Im a Legette homer, he was my initial draft crush not counting the Big 4.

But damn, with that said, i think he's a mid 2nd to mid 3rd round kinda guy. Not sure where all this 1st round talk is coming from.

I mean if the Chiefs take him then i'll readily admit i was wrong but i really dont expect him to go in the 1st. I dont even expect him to go high in the 2nd.

I won't.

I'll presume THEY are.

Legette doesn't look like a 1st rounder to me.

[VAChief]

Veach will try to move up, the cost to get to 16 will be too steep, the teams from about 17-20 won't deal with KC and by 22 and beyond the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

So the Chiefs stay put at 32 and take Jordan Morgan, OT - Arizona.

This… if there is a receiver you really want trade up in the 2nd. If we could get that 39 pick rom Carolina you might have a shot at several 2nd tier WRs.

[RunKC]

The 2nd rd for this draft will look a lot like the 2019 2nd rd draft for WR IMO. At least least 7 taken but there will be talent for us at the end of rd 2 or small trade up.

DK Metcalf, Diontae Johnson and Terry McLaurin were all taken after us. Think that same talent will be there this year.

Just need to pick the right one

[The Franchise]

The 2nd rd for this draft will look a lot like the 2019 2nd rd draft for WR IMO. At least least 7 taken but there will be talent for us at the end of rd 2 or small trade up.

DK Metcalf, Diontae Johnson and Terry McLaurin were all taken after us. Think that same talent will be there this year.

Just need to pick the right one

Hope it's not a repeat of that draft. We had a WR get in trouble before the draft and we grabbed a guy to try and fill in for him.

[staylor26]

Hope it's not a repeat of that draft. We had a WR get in trouble before the draft and we grabbed a guy to try and fill in for him.

Totally different scenario because the Tyreek news broke so close to the draft, and the accusations were so serious that they didn't know if he'd ever play another down for the Chiefs again. That's clearly not the case with Rice.

[Woogieman]

Plenty of talk for BV moving up, but prob not enough draft capital...if he trades up, itwill only be a few spots for Guyton. More likely they trade down and get 2 picks in the sweet spot...
1) Suamataia
2) Legette

Stay put? McConkey

[RunKC]

Im a Legette homer, he was my initial draft crush not counting the Big 4.

But damn, with that said, i think he's a mid 2nd to mid 3rd round kinda guy. Not sure where all this 1st round talk is coming from.

I mean if the Chiefs take him then i'll readily admit i was wrong but i really dont expect him to go in the 1st. I dont even expect him to go high in the 2nd.

I would love Legette in rd 2. I think there’s a really strong chance that one or two of Legette, Walker, Franklin, Burton will be there around 64. McMillan will be there too.

I don’t see the need to trade up far if we do

[InChiefsHeaven]

I just don't think any team in the NFL is gonna trade with the Chiefs right now. They probably all got together and were like...DON'T TRADE WITH THE FUCKING CHIEFS...I'll be amazed if we do that.

[Red Dawg]

There are times I wish we could force user subtitles on people. "Miserable ****" is an excellent description for Red Dawg.

People are just obsessed with me. Fuck off and get a life.

[Imon Yourside]

WR Xavier Legette

This is my bet as well.

Yup please :)

[Imon Yourside]

WR Brian Thomas Jr

I hope we jump in front of the Bills to take him but I doubt it lolz

[staylor26]

People are just obsessed with me. Fuck off and get a life.

Shut up, bitch.

[Red Dawg]

Shut up, bitch.

lol. Another classic from the biggest asshole on CP.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Trade back and pick the next Sky Moore from jack shit university.

Bet if you were in charge instead of Veach we would've done something crazy like played in 6 consecutive AFC championship games and won something nuts like 3 of the last 5 Super Bowls.

What could've been, if only Clark would've seen your brilliance...

[Bump]

I have no idea!

[Smed1065]

People are just obsessed with me. Fuck off and get a life. Nah CP calls out dumb-asses is all. Enjoy.

[crispystl]

There are times I wish we could force user subtitles on people. "Miserable ****" is an excellent description for Red Dawg.

I mean it's your board right?.....

[bigjosh]

Trade into the top ten for rome odunze.

Book it bois.


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[TEX]

A D Mitchell WR UT

[BossChief]

Sounds like Brett is prepared to be aggressive to move up and he has a history of not using smoke screens in these pre draft pressers. I’m taking it at face value that if one of the LTs slips to a spot we can move up to without a complete sellout, Veach swings big.

This OT class is so hard to gauge who goes where because there are soo many good ones with differing skill sets and I can see scenarios where Alt falls to 9 and Veach talks Poles into giving us 32nd overall value for our 2025 first and we make the same type of deal we did for Pat, to go up to get Alt, Nabers, Thomas, Harrison or one of the other guys they may have fallen in love with.

9 is worth 1350 points

32 is 590 points
95 is 120
2025 1st (590 if no depreciation for the future pick is a possibility, move that up to pick 64 if we lose a round value for next years first.
121 is worth 52

If I’m calling my shot, I’m saying KC moves up to 9 and draft Alt.

If they stay still, Kingsley is their guy…and he will be the best LT we e had for a long time.

[RealSNR]

Trade back and pick the next Sky Moore from jack shit university.


Yeah and then win another fucking Super Bowl!!

[Buehler445]

I think it's going to be McConkey.

That's not who I'd pick, but after watching the fucking drops all season long, I think that's where he goes.

[ChiliConCarnage]

LLEEEERRROOY JJJEEEENNKINS

[OnTheWarpath15]

I’m going WAY off the reservation.

Cooper DeJean.

[WhawhaWhat]

Adonai Mitchell - WR - Texas

[TwistedChief]

Trade back into the second.

McConkey or Pearsall.

It’s time for a white WR.

[staylor26]

I’m going WAY off the reservation.

Cooper DeJean.

Sneaky good choice IMO.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Sneaky good choice IMO.

Fits what we do and is versatile AF.

With that said, I don’t see him falling to us and I don’t see us trading up for him. But definitely a wild card, IMO

[OnTheWarpath15]

Trade back into the second.

McConkey or Pearsall.

It’s time for a white WR.

Sorry TC we’ve met our gritty, gutty white guy quota at the WR position.

[Stewie]

After listening to Veach today I'm going OL. I'll give my specific pick later.

[TwistedChief]

Sorry TC we’ve met our gritty, gutty white guy quota at the WR position.

So we need that at corner?

[OnTheWarpath15]

So we need that at corner?

We would meet our white CB quota, yes.

[ForeverIowan]

Head says we trade into the mid 20s for a tackle in the first. Javon Baker in the 2nd.

Heart says Xavier Worthy. Kelce, Rice, Hollywood, Worthy and a healthy and motivated (big if) Toney. 3 peat.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

I’d love to see us trade back to somewhere in the 35-45 range, get an extra pick or two, and grab Legette.

But my call if we stay at 32? Mitchell, followed closely by Coleman. Jordan Morgan if we go OL.

Calling my shot for the guy who 5 years from now will be overwhelmingly viewed as the best player in this class regardless of position: Malik Nabers

I really don’t want the Chargers to draft Nabers. They will if they’re smart, though.

[ForeverIowan]

If we trade up it's for Thomas, Latham or Fuatanu, IMO.

I don't think we can get up to Fashanu (know we can't get up to Alt). And like you, I don't think we can get up to the Big 3 at WR.

Thomas is the clear WR4, IMO. And I think Fuatanu is probably LT3 in this draft (there's too much projection required in Latham and probably Fuaga as well, IMO).

And I still think either of them would have to make it past Jacksonville and Cincy to the Rams spot where they may be interested in collecting more capital since they haven't had a 1st rounder in awhile.

That'll cost you this year's 3rd and next year's 2nd, IMO. You might get something like 155 back in the deal, but the meat of the deal will be 32, 95 and the 2025 2nd rounder to get up there. And that presumes either of those guys get that far.

You have maybe a 30% chance of one of them getting that far, IMO.

And ultimately that's why I just don't see a trade up as being very likely.

Isnt Mims considered one of the best pure pass blocking prospects in several years? If we are trading up for a tackle in the 1st that is my best guess.

[Bowser]

Xavier Worthy

There's no way the Bills let him get past them and potentially to us, especially after Diggs got traded. I'd love to see the meltdown if it happened, but it won't.

[ForeverIowan]

There's no way the Bills let him get past them and potentially to us, especially after Diggs got traded. I'd love to see the meltdown if it happened, but it won't.

We find a way to get Brian Thomas Jr or Xavier Worthy the rest of the league is going to freak out.

[Bowser]

I've had a draft crush on Troy Franklin all offseason. If we stay at the 32 spot, he could be the pick, maybe? But so could McConkey and Mitchell, sooooo......

There's so much depth at receiver, and I really want one of these guys, but I think the smart play is to grab a tackle somehow/someway. There's going to be someone good available at WR in the 2nd.

[Hoover]

Bart Veach is feeling it. A year after no team would trade with the Chiefs, suddenly teams are willing to dance. With the Chris Jones contract saga now settled, and L'Jarius Sneed in Nashville, for the first time in years Bart has a pretty clear roadmap on what the future needs of his team are, and he makes a huge move to fill the biggest hole on team when he makes a draft day blockbuster trade that the Chiefs have not seen since they drafted Mahomes.

Instead of trading up for a franchise quarterback, Veach is now pushing all his chips into the middle of the table to select Mahomes' blindside defender, Joe Alt, who slips down just far enough that Veach at the Chiefs have enough draft capital (this year and next year's first rounder plus some change) to finally end Veach's four season long quest to find a long term solution for the LT position.

While risky and expensive, the move provides Mahomes and the Chiefs bookend left and right tackles under control not the near future. Their remaining draft capital can still fill needs at wr, guard, and along the defensive line. If Alt, the best LT prospect pans out, the Chiefs will extend their playoff window and continue to challenge for even more championships.

[Womble]

I will chunder everywhere if we draft Jag McConkey.

[staylor26]

I will chunder everywhere if we draft Jag McConkey.

Guaranteed you saw a white WR on the smaller side and made up your mind instantly.

[ForeverIowan]

It wasnt left tackle play that cost us over and over and over again last year. It was receiver. I hope Veach keeps that in mind. Especially if they anticipate Rashee out for much of the year. Do not want to go on the road twice again in the playoffs.

[Coochie liquor]

There are times I wish we could force user subtitles on people. "Miserable Cunt" is an excellent description for Red Dawg.

I’ve heard rumors that the mods have power to change a posters screen name. Not sure if true, but if DM Bob Dole and see what his determination is.

Also for the record I’m going Aidonia Mitchell. And we trade up in front of the Bills to get him, which again sends the Bills war room into a frenzy as he was their pick.

[Hoover]

It wasnt left tackle play that cost us over and over and over again last year. It was receiver. I hope Veach keeps that in mind. Especially if they anticipate Rashee out for much of the year. Do not want to go on the road twice again in the playoffs.

Sure, but this team was toast until Smith came back. If you are trading up, its to protect Mahomes, your biggest investment, for the long term. You can figure out WR. The problem with last year is that we thought we had something in Skyy Moore and Toney, and we ended up not having shit. We also thought we had a vet in MVS. We were bad at WR because we placed too much hope in guys who have never really done shit.

[kc79]

Troy Franklin

[huskerdooz]

Veach will try to move up, the cost to get to 16 will be too steep, the teams from about 17-20 won't deal with KC and by 22 and beyond the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

So the Chiefs stay put at 32 and take Jordan Morgan, OT - Arizona.

I don’t think Morgan fits their idea of a LT… arms aren’t long huh enough.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

I will chunder everywhere if we draft Jag McConkey.

I'm just the opposite. I'd be happy if we got him at #32.

But then I watched a bunch of his college games, combine workouts, and Senior Bowl practices and know how good he is, instead of just making uninformed stereotypical assumptions.

[bigjosh]

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[BryanBusby]

If a blue chipper fell into striking range, I could see a tackle. Not a likely to happen scenario though.

Anyone that thinks they're trading the farm for a fatty has lost their ****ing mind.

WR or CB I'm thinking. Kool-aid is my sleeper choice but primary one is Legette.

[dlphg9]

Xavier Worthy, please

[Rausch]

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I'd love Guerendo in the 5th.

[CupidStunt]

I kinda just wanna say someone different. I was thinking trade up for LT before Veach's PC. Now that seems too easy.

I'll say they trade down a little and either Corley or Polk is the pick.

[ForeverIowan]

The more mocks I do Mims seems to be going in the ballpark of 20-26. NFC teams own the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 25th and 26th picks which is good news. I think pick 22 or 23 is where Veach is trying to get.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

]I’d love to see us trade back to somewhere in the 35-45 range, get an extra pick or two, and grab Legette.[/B]

But my call if we stay at 32? Mitchell, followed closely by Coleman. Jordan Morgan if we go OL.

Calling my shot for the guy who 5 years from now will be overwhelmingly viewed as the best player in this class regardless of position: Malik Nabers

I really don’t want the Chargers to draft Nabers. They will if they’re smart, though.


All in on this

[Womble]

Guaranteed you saw a white WR on the smaller side and made up your mind instantly.

No. I made up my mind based on how average his numbers were playing for essentially an NFL team in the college game against totally inferior opponents. If you're playing second fiddle to your tight end in the college game you aren't a 1st round WR. He's also not the deep ball specialist we really need and has a high drop rate. Plenty other WRs out there who have produced more on the field and who have higher upside..Legette and Franklin being 2 of them who should be available at pick 32.

[DJ's left nut]

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Offensive Reload year incoming


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Someone is a K-State fan.

Sinnott is a borderline 4th round pick. He damn sure isn't a 2nd rounder.

[BlackHelicopters]

Legette

[bigjosh]

Someone is a K-State fan.

Sinnott is a borderline 4th round pick. He damn sure isn't a 2nd rounder.


Never watched kstate in my life.

But i know alot of people were saying the same shit about Laporta last year. They were wrong.

Sinnott is going to be real good.


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[gordonelloyd]

Bart Veach is feeling it. A year after no team would trade with the Chiefs, suddenly teams are willing to dance. With the Chris Jones contract saga now settled, and L'Jarius Sneed in Nashville, for the first time in years Bart has a pretty clear roadmap on what the future needs of his team are, and he makes a huge move to fill the biggest hole on team when he makes a draft day blockbuster trade that the Chiefs have not seen since they drafted Mahomes.

Instead of trading up for a franchise quarterback, Veach is now pushing all his chips into the middle of the table to select Mahomes' blindside defender, Joe Alt, who slips down just far enough that Veach at the Chiefs have enough draft capital (this year and next year's first rounder plus some change) to finally end Veach's four season long quest to find a long term solution for the LT position.

While risky and expensive, the move provides Mahomes and the Chiefs bookend left and right tackles under control not the near future. Their remaining draft capital can still fill needs at wr, guard, and along the defensive line. If Alt, the best LT prospect pans out, the Chiefs will extend their playoff window and continue to challenge for even more championships.

This would be my ideal outcome also. We could get a good WR at 64. And maybe we would be lucky at TE in round three.

[Rausch]

This would be my ideal outcome also. We could get a good WR at 64. And maybe we would be lucky at TE in round three.

This team will be in the ship as many times as Mahomes' health allows.
Maximize that timeframe and prevent the easiest route to putting him on the ground.

[permachief]

Here's my results from the mock draft simulator link on post #21:

Pick 32 Tyler Guyton OT Oklahoma
Pick 64 Ben Sinnott TE Kansas State
Pick 95 Roman Wilson WR Michigan
Pick 131 Mekhi Wingo DT LSU
Pick 159 Luke McCaffrey WR Rice
Pick 173 Isaac Guerendo RB Louisville
Pick 224 Nehemiah Pritchett CB Auburn

[staylor26]

No. I made up my mind based on how average his numbers were playing for essentially an NFL team in the college game against totally inferior opponents. If you're playing second fiddle to your tight end in the college game you aren't a 1st round WR. He's also not the deep ball specialist we really need and has a high drop rate. Plenty other WRs out there who have produced more on the field and who have higher upside..Legette and Franklin being 2 of them who should be available at pick 32.

1. Georgia is a run first team. All of their talented WRs over the year have struggled to produce, including George Pickens. McConkey was more productive than any of them.

2. McConkey has been productive when healthy and on the field. He had almost 800 yards and 7 TDs 2 years ago. Bowers is arguably the GOAT college TE, so not being as productive as him isn't the knock you think it is.

3. When you look at stuff like yards per route run, the production is fine compared to his peers, and the bigger issue has been health and opportunities in that offense.

4. Production is just one part of the equation. Put on the tape and watch how easy the guy got separation in the fucking SEC. Then watch him pull away from those guys and show off that sub 4.4 speed with the ball in his hands in the open field.

5. Go back and watch him absolutely destroy dudes at the Senior Bowl practices. Nobody could cover him, even projected top 20 pick Quinton Mitchell.

6. Look at this athletic/size profile and see how comparable he is to guys like Garret Wilson and Chris Olave. This isn't your typical smaller white WR, hence why "jag" is a lazy analysis.

[RunKC]

Only Weird games had a good theory about Veach wanting to trade up to the mid teens with a team like Seattle assuming one of three players fall: a tackle they like, Bowers of Brian Thomas

I think that’s something Veach would want but pulling it off would be very difficult

[ForeverIowan]

Here's my results from the mock draft simulator link on post #21:

Pick 32 Tyler Guyton OT Oklahoma
Pick 64 Ben Sinnott TE Kansas State
Pick 95 Roman Wilson WR Michigan
Pick 131 Mekhi Wingo DT LSU
Pick 159 Luke McCaffrey WR Rice
Pick 173 Isaac Guerendo RB Louisville
Pick 224 Nehemiah Pritchett CB Auburn

Love the idea of Sinnott in the 3rd (2nd round is too high) paired with Xavier Worthy in the 1st. Let Mahomes start shattering records again.

Much like basketball, our ability to go both big and small dependent on matchup would be ridiculous. Weak back 7 in coverage? Mahomes going to spread your ass out have fun chasing Kelce, Rice, Hollywood, Worthy and Toney all day. Cant stop the run? Yeah we are going to have Kelce, Gray and Sinnott out there 85% of the snaps have fun tackling Pacheco 25-30 times today while we lean on our elite defense.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Here are my first 4 round picks on Mock draft with no trades.

1.Ladd McConkey WR Georgia
2.Michael Hall Jr. DT Ohio State
3.Roger Rosengarten OT Washington
4. Khyree Jackson CB Oregon

[493rd]

I think we trade up and nab a WR. Bills are targeting one also, so it would be immensely satisfying to jump in front of them and take their guy.

[RunKC]

McConkey=taller Edelman with speed to burn DB’s downfield

[VAChief]

Never watched kstate in my life.

But i know alot of people were saying the same shit about Laporta last year. They were wrong.

Sinnott is going to be real good.


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TE was not one of the priorities that Veach listed. They also just signed a TE in FA. It could be Veach not wanting to show his hand, but the FA signing tells me he is not planning investing draft capital at TE this year.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

1. Georgia is a run first team. All of their talented WRs over the year have struggled to produce, including George Pickens. McConkey was more productive than any of them.

2. McConkey has been productive when healthy and on the field. He had almost 800 yards and 7 TDs 2 years ago. Bowers is arguably the GOAT college TE, so not being as productive as him isn't the knock you think it is.

3. When you look at stuff like yards per route run, the production is fine compared to his peers, and the bigger issue has been health and opportunities in that offense.

4. Production is just one part of the equation. Put on the tape and watch how easy the guy got separation in the ****ing SEC. Then watch him pull away from those guys and show off that sub 4.4 speed with the ball in his hands in the open field.

5. Go back and watch him absolutely destroy dudes at the Senior Bowl practices. Nobody could cover him, even projected top 20 pick Quinton Mitchell.

6. Look at this athletic/size profile and see how comparable he is to guys like Garret Wilson and Chris Olave. This isn't your typical smaller white WR, hence why "jag" is a lazy analysis.

McConkey missed the first 4 stat padding games last year vs. UT Martin, Ball State, South Carolina and UAB with SC being the only decent team. His stats last year look a lot better in that context.

[ForeverIowan]

I think we trade up and nab a WR. Bills are targeting one also, so it would be immensely satisfying to jump in front of them and take their guy.

Hell or high water for Brian Thomas Jr for them. Would be hilarious to jump into the teens to get him.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Here is my mock draft trading up in the first and then some other trades.

16.Troy Fautanu
OT Washington

66. Michael Hall Jr.
DT Ohio State

88. Jalen McMillan
WR Washington

159. Zak Zinter
OG Michigan

173.Tip Reiman
TE Illinois

221. Dominique Hampton
S Washington

[bigjosh]

Here is my mock draft trading up in the first and then some other trades.

16.Troy Fautanu
OT Washington

66. Michael Hall Jr.
DT Ohio State

88. Jalen McMillan
WR Washington

159. Zak Zinter
OG Michigan

173.Tip Reiman
TE Illinois

221. Dominique Hampton
S Washington


Thanks, I hate this.


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[Hoover]

Thanks, I hate this.


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Nothing flashy, but damn the Chiefs would be set up pretty well along both the lines.

[DJ's left nut]

Never watched kstate in my life.

But i know alot of people were saying the same shit about Laporta last year. They were wrong.

Sinnott is going to be real good.


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If you've never watched K-State I have no idea how you can draw that conclusion.

Sinnott is going to be an afterthought.

[old_geezer]

I'm not knowledgeable enough on the players to pick a specific player but the WR class is deep this year so if we trade up it will be for an OT and if we stay put it will be for a WR. :shrug:

[Womble]

1. Georgia is a run first team. All of their talented WRs over the year have struggled to produce, including George Pickens. McConkey was more productive than any of them.

2. McConkey has been productive when healthy and on the field. He had almost 800 yards and 7 TDs 2 years ago. Bowers is arguably the GOAT college TE, so not being as productive as him isn't the knock you think it is.

3. When you look at stuff like yards per route run, the production is fine compared to his peers, and the bigger issue has been health and opportunities in that offense.

4. Production is just one part of the equation. Put on the tape and watch how easy the guy got separation in the ****ing SEC. Then watch him pull away from those guys and show off that sub 4.4 speed with the ball in his hands in the open field.

5. Go back and watch him absolutely destroy dudes at the Senior Bowl practices. Nobody could cover him, even projected top 20 pick Quinton Mitchell.

6. Look at this athletic/size profile and see how comparable he is to guys like Garret Wilson and Chris Olave. This isn't your typical smaller white WR, hence why "jag" is a lazy analysis.

A lot of what you've listed here and previously were supposedly Skyy Moore's attributes.

In McConkey's best ever season as a WR where he clearly was the WR1 he had just 250 more receiving yards than the ****ing running back (who can't get a game for the Seahawks). You can talk all you want about separation etc but I've heard it all before with our other shitty WRs who apparently get separation but Mahomes needs to be better. If he was first round pick worthy he would have been a much more important piece to that offense. I also don't care how good Bowers is..our 1st round WR will be going to a team with the GOAT tight end and there still should be the expectation that they should outperform him in yardage in their 2nd year, like Tyreek did. If he's second fiddle to a college tight end then he's going to be second fiddle to ours and that's not good enough.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

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[staylor26]

A lot of what you've listed were supposedly Skyy Moore's attributes.

In McConkey's best ever season as a WR where he clearly was the WR1 he had just 250 more receiving yards than the ****ing running back. You can talk all you want about separation etc but I've heard it all before with our other shitty WRs who apparently get separation but Mahomes needs to be better. If he was first round pick worthy he would have been a much more important piece to that offense. I also don't care how good Bowers is..our 1st round WR will be going to a team with the GOAT tight end and there still should be the expectation that they should outperform him in yardage in their 2nd year, like Tyreek did. If he's second fiddle to a college tight end then he's going to be second fiddle to ours and that's not good enough.

When you frame it like this, it sounds a lot worse than what it was in reality. As I said, damn near 800 yards and 7 TDs. That's a productive season as a Georgia WR in that offense. It's almost as if you're being completely disingenuous.

I knew the Skyy Moore comparison would come at some point too. A tell tale sign of somebody that is taking anybody remotely similar (surface level) and putting them in that box. It's lazy.

There's very little comaprison between the two, even removing hindsight with Skyy. The tape is put there. Like I said, he got separation with ease in the SEC and at the Senior Bowl. You are simply looking at him as a white small WR, looking at his stats, and that's it.

We'll jsut have to agree to disagree though because you clearly have your mind made up, and I jsut made several points that you completely ignored. You really didn't address anything, so what's the point?

[Womble]

When you frame it like this, it sounds a lot worse than what it was in reality. As I said, damn near 800 yards and 7 TDs. That's a productive season as a Georgia WR in that offense. It's almost as if you're being completely disingenuous.

I knew the Skyy Moore comparison would come at some point too. A tell tale sign of somebody that is just looking at stats and hasn't really done their homework.

There's very little comaprison between the two, even removing hindsight with Skyy. The tape is put there. Like I said, he got separation with ease in the SEC and at the Senior Bowl. You are simply looking at him as a white small WR, looking at his stats, and that's it.

800 yards is NOT impressive in the best team in college football dude. Legette got 500 yards more playing against the same opposition in the same league for an inferior team. Legette is also a far better deep threat than McConkey, which is an area that we need to improve on with MVS going and all the sounds around how we are going to utilise Hollywood Brown.

[BossChief]

The more mocks I do Mims seems to be going in the ballpark of 20-26. NFC teams own the 22nd, 23rd, 24th, 25th and 26th picks which is good news. I think pick 22 or 23 is where Veach is trying to get.

I’d be pretty surprised if they move up for Mims. Only like 10 total starts in college and all at RT.

He may have the skill set to play LT, but that’s a ton of risk.

He specifically mentioned in the presser getting Clark involved last year in an effort to move way up and that nobody was willing to trade with him without a “big tax” and specifically says he could see himself moving into the top 10 specifically for a OT.

Honestly, after watching the presser it seems he’s loaded for bear and seems to think he will be able to move up.

[staylor26]

800 yards is NOT impressive in the best team in college football dude. Legette got 500 yards more playing against the same opposition in the same league for an inferior team. Legette is also a far better deep threat than McConkey, which is an area that we need to improve on with MVS going and all the sounds around how we are going to utilise Hollywood Brown.

What did George Pickens have at Georgia?

Adonai Mitchell?

Jermaine Burton?

800 yards at Georgia is a productive season. They aren't the "best team in football" because they're out there slinging it on Saturday's. You understand that, right? Not to mention, their QB play is average at best.

It's so obvious that you have never watched the guy play, and are simply looking at stats with zero context/nuance whatsoever.

Also, to be so focused on production, while simultaneously bringing up Legette as a better alternative is laughable. You're talking about a guy that did absolutely nothing for 4 years, then had a monster 5th year at 23 years old. And I actually like Legette.

Legette was at the same Senior Bowl that McConkey dominated. Not a single person can watch both guys that week and come away thinking Legette is the better player. They went against the same exact DBs, and McConkey was the guy that nobody could cover, not even a projected top 20 pick.

[ForeverIowan]

I’d be pretty surprised if they move up for Mims. Only like 10 total starts in college and all at RT.

He may have the skill set to play LT, but that’s a ton of risk.

He specifically mentioned in the presser getting Clark involved last year in an effort to move way up and that nobody was willing to trade with him without a “big tax” and specifically says he could see himself moving into the top 10 specifically for a OT.

Honestly, after watching the presser it seems he’s loaded for bear and seems to think he will be able to move up.

Im all for moving up. Not so sure Im okay jumping from 32 to top ten though for anything other than a franchise QB. To jump 32 to top ten you are likely looking at our 2024 1st, 2024 2nd, 2025 1st. That is a ton of draft capital. Better damn well be Jonthan Ogden you are going to get.

When we jumped 28 to 10 to grab Mahomes it was two 1sts and a 3rd. That is when teams werent 100% we are picking 30 or later every single year.

[Womble]

What did George Pickens have at Georgia?

Adonai Mitchell?

Jermaine Burton?

800 yards at Georgia is a productive season. They aren't the "best team in football" because they're out there slinging it on Saturday's. You understand that, right? Not to mention, their QB play is average at best.

It's so obvious that you have never watched the guy play, and are simply looking at stats with zero context/nuance whatsoever.

Also, to be so focused on production, while simultaneously bringing up Legette as a better alternative is laughable. You're talking about a guy that did absolutely nothing for 4 years, then had a monster 5th year at 23 years old. And I actually like Legette.

Legette was at the same Senior Bowl that McConkey dominated. Not a single person can watch both guys that week and come away thinking Legette is the better player. They went against the same exact DBs, and McConkey was the guy that nobody could cover, not even a projected top 20 pick.

Shut the fuck up homer. Perhaps I'm focused on production because it's actually the be all and end all for WRs. Listen, if we're drafting Ladd McConkey in the third round after getting a guy like Legette in a previous round then I'd be okay with it. But to spend our first round pick on a guy with borderline JAG college production to join a team that suffered through last year due to having JAG production WRs like Moore you homered on ain't a good thing. I'd rather get a guy in who can own a specific WR role than a JAG of all traits kinda guy.

Talk down all you want to me boy. You full on homered a guy who is perhaps the worst WR I have ever seen in the NFL. Your opinion means shit to me.

[493rd]

Here is my mock draft trading up in the first and then some other trades.

16.Troy Fautanu
OT Washington

66. Michael Hall Jr.
DT Ohio State

88. Jalen McMillan
WR Washington

159. Zak Zinter
OG Michigan

173.Tip Reiman
TE Illinois

221. Dominique Hampton
S Washington

You’re wrong. Oh, and you owe me $100 once RR is suspended 5 games.

[staylor26]

Shut the fuck up homer. Perhaps I'm focused on production because it's actually the be all and end all for WRs. Listen, if we're drafting Ladd McConkey in the third round after getting a guy like Legette in a previous round then I'd be okay with it. But to spend our first round pick on a guy with borderline JAG college production to join a team that suffered through last year due to having JAG production WRs like Moore you homered on ain't a good thing. I'd rather get a guy in who can own a specific WR role than a JAG of all traits kinda guy.

Talk down all you want to me boy. You full on homered a guy who is perhaps the worst WR I have ever seen in the NFL. Your opinion means shit to me.


McConkey:

1,687 yards 14 TDs in 4 years

Legette:

1.678 yards 17 TDs in 5 years

You're literally too stupid to argue with.

Also, LMAO @ "homer"

Did the Chiefs draft Ladd McConkey already or something? You don't even make fucking sense.

[Pinchshot]

OT from Oklahoma.

[Couch-Potato]

Not my first choice, but I think it will be WR Xavier Worthy.

[In58men]

Need a poll to see who everyone WANTS, not what we think we’re going to do.

[Womble]

McConkey:

1,687 yards 14 TDs in 4 years

Legette:

1.678 yards 17 TDs in 5 years

You're literally too stupid to argue with.

Also, LMAO @ "homer"

Did the Chiefs draft Ladd McConkey already or something? You don't even make ****ing sense.

Ladd McConkey in his last 2 college seasons where he was WR1 for the best team in football: 478 yards + 762 yards. 1240 total.

Legette in his final season playing in the same division for an inferior team: 1255 yards

Ladd McConkey had everything available to him at Georgia and did nothing of note in his playing time Go wank yourself silly to videos of his elite separation in practice. I'll take the guy who actually produces on gameday thanks.

Being a homer and being a reerun are the same thing in my book. You're a homer which means that I'll basically discount anything you ever say about football because your opinions are principally based on emotion, hence why you're so quick to discount the objectively most important stat for WRs and are instead focussing on subjective stuff.

[staylor26]

Ladd McConkey in his last 2 college seasons where he was WR1 for the best team in football: 478 yards + 762 yards. 1240 total.

Legette in his final season playing in the same division for an inferior team: 1255 yards

Ladd McConkey had everything available to him at Georgia and did nothing of note in his playing time Go wank yourself silly to videos of his elite separation in practice. I'll take the guy who actually produces on gameday thanks.

Being a homer and being a reerun are the same thing in my book. You're a homer which means that I'll basically discount anything you ever say about football because your opinions are principally based on emotion, hence why you're so quick to discount the objectively most important stat for WRs and are instead focussing on subjective stuff.

LMAO

You said production is the "be all end all", not me.

McConkey was the more productive player on a per route, per game, AND per year basis by far. The only reason it is even remotely close is because Legette played 5 YEARS.

Spencer Rattler is significantly better than any QB McConkey ever played with too, so your argument about situation is just as weak. Like I said, Georgia is the "best team" because they run the football and play defense, dipshit.

Again, too fucking reeruned to argue with.

[TwistedChief]

Ladd McConkey in his last 2 college seasons where he was WR1 for the best team in football: 478 yards + 762 yards. 1240 total.

Legette in his final season playing in the same division for an inferior team: 1255 yards

Ladd McConkey had everything available to him at Georgia and did nothing of note in his playing time Go wank yourself silly to videos of his elite separation in practice. I'll take the guy who actually produces on gameday thanks.

Being a homer and being a reerun are the same thing in my book. You're a homer which means that I'll basically discount anything you ever say about football because your opinions are principally based on emotion, hence why you're so quick to discount the objectively most important stat for WRs and are instead focussing on subjective stuff.

It’s late in the UK. Sober up and get a fucking clue. You’ll be better for it in the morning.

[Womble]

LMAO

You said production is the "be all end all", not me.

McConkey was the more productive player on a per route, per game, AND per year basis by far. The only reason it is even remotely close is because Legette played 5 YEARS.

Spencer Rattler is significantly better than any QB McConkey ever played with too, so your argument about situation is just as weak. Like I said, Georgia is the "best team" because they run the football and play defense, dipshit.

Again, too ****ing reeruned to argue with.

Disingenuous reerun saying 5 years when he was only played as the WR1 for one of those. And he easily beat out your bumboy in the one year he was given that opportunity.

Your argument about the QB would make sense if there weren't TE's getting more yards and RBs competing with him for 2nd place receiver. I guess the QB must just be bad at throwing the ball to WRs but is elite at passing to the TE and RBs....

If your boy McConkey is so fucking productive then where are his yards? Why is it that he is being asked to run so few routes? You tell me. Are his coaches terrible? Is he a broke dick? Did he leave his playbook in his Corvette? What's the deal Scooby Doo?

[staylor26]

Disingenuous reerun saying 5 years when he was only played as the WR1 for one of those. And he easily beat out your bumboy in the one year he was given that opportunity.

Your argument about the QB would make sense if there weren't TE's getting more yards and RBs competing with him for 2nd place receiver. I guess the QB must just be bad at throwing the ball to WRs but is elite at passing to the TE and RBs....

If your boy McConkey is so fucking productive then where are his yards? Why is it that he is being asked to run so few routes? You tell me. Are his coaches terrible? Is he a broke dick? Did he leave his playbook in his Corvette? What's the deal Scooby Doo?

There is absolutely nothing disingenuous about pointing out the fact that by your own logic, McConkey is clearly the better player, as he was more productive on a per route/game/year basis. It IS disingenuous to ignore the fact that Legette was a 5th year Senior that did absolutely nothing in his first 4 years.

I've explained everything to you about as well as anybody possibly can, but when you're acting like a child sticking your fingers in your ears and refusing to listen, there's really no point in repeating myself, so I will refer you to my previous posts, reerun.

[Womble]

I've explained everything to you about as well as anybody possibly can, but when you're acting like a child sticking your fingers in your ears and refusing to listen, there's really no point in repeating myself, so I will refer you to my previous posts, reerun.

No you haven't at all. You just have a propensity for talking up shitty players.

[Bowser]

I'm over here considering all the options, and I'm absolutely like

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[staylor26]

No you haven't at all. You just have a propensity for talking up shitty players.

You've ignored the reality of Georgia's offense throughout this back and forth, just continuing to spew "best team" as if they've ever been a great passing team in this current run they're on. McConkey is the most productive WR they've had. That says a lot.

You mean to tell me their game manager QB has an easier time throwing check downs to his safety valves as opposed to throwing it to the guy lining up running big boy NFL routes? I am SHOCKED!

[Bowser]

I'd pump my fist if they took McConkey. His route running ability, hands, and sneaky speed would pair nicely with Kelce and Rice. I'm still pulling for Troy Franklin, but McConkey would be anything other than an awful pick at 32.

[staylor26]

I'd pump my fist if they took McConkey. His route running ability, hands, and sneaky speed would pair nicely with Kelce and Rice. I'm still pulling for Troy Franklin, but McConkey would be anything other than an awful pick at 32.

He's very likely not even my first choice, but the lazy takes are obvious, and they're proof that somebody hasn't actually done their homework on the guy.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

A lot of what you've listed here and previously were supposedly Skyy Moore's attributes.

In McConkey's best ever season as a WR where he clearly was the WR1 he had just 250 more receiving yards than the ****ing running back (who can't get a game for the Seahawks). You can talk all you want about separation etc but I've heard it all before with our other shitty WRs who apparently get separation but Mahomes needs to be better. If he was first round pick worthy he would have been a much more important piece to that offense. I also don't care how good Bowers is..our 1st round WR will be going to a team with the GOAT tight end and there still should be the expectation that they should outperform him in yardage in their 2nd year, like Tyreek did. If he's second fiddle to a college tight end then he's going to be second fiddle to ours and that's not good enough.

Except Ladd did in the SEC, big difference. He was also out the first four games last year against the sub tier teams.

[staylor26]

"If your boy's so productive where are his yards"

McConkey:

1,687 yards 14 TDs in 4 years

Legette:

1,678 yards 17 TDs in 5 years

You're literally too stupid to argue with.

Also, LMAO @ "homer"

Did the Chiefs draft Ladd McConkey already or something? You don't even make fucking sense.

Imagine being this fucking reeruned LMAO

Nobody said he was "so" productive, just pointing out the cognitive dissonance of "production is the be all end all" and "Legette > McConkey".

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

You’re wrong. Oh, and you owe me $100 once RR is suspended 5 games.

Sure I'm probably wrong. I don't think they trade up, but if they do it will be for an LT. And again, it's weird you are hoping that RR gets more than 4?

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

"If your boy's so productive where are his yards"



Imagine being this ****ing reeruned LMAO

Nobody said he was "so" productive, just pointing out the cognitive dissonance of "production is the be all end all" and "Legette > McConkey".

and again, he missed the first four games this year vs the stat padding teams, he averaged nearly 100 yards a game last year when he played.

[Womble]

You've ignored the reality of Georgia's offense throughout this back and forth, just continuing to spew "best team" as if they've ever been a great passing team in this current run they're on. McConkey is the most productive WR they've had. That says a lot.

You mean to tell me their game manager QB has an easier time throwing check downs to his safety valves as opposed to throwing it to the guy lining up running big boy NFL routes? I am SHOCKED!

Ah so we're back to the QB not finding the wide open WRs argument again. I heard that one a lot last season from those defending our shitty WRs not named Rice. If we draft McConkey I'll look forward to hearing the same shit from the same people again.

[staylor26]

and again, he missed the first four games this year vs the stat padding teams, he averaged nearly 100 yards a game last year when he played.

Womble is too stupid to grasp this. He just wants to look at the total yards this season and scream about his lack of production.

Nobody is even saying his production is great. It's just disingenuous to look at totals and ignore all the context/nuance in his situation.

[Womble]

"If your boy's so productive where are his yards"



Imagine being this ****ing reeruned LMAO

Nobody said he was "so" productive, just pointing out the cognitive dissonance of "production is the be all end all" and "Legette > McConkey".

WR1 for 2 years in Georgia has less yards than a WR1 for South Carolina in 1 year. The same WR1 for Georgia got trounced by a tight end in all years and heroically just about beat out a RB for receiving yards in his best ever season. That Georgia guy sure sounds like a first rounder ehh!

[staylor26]

WR1 for 2 years in Georgia has less yards than a WR1 for South Carolina in 1 year. The same WR1 for Georgia got trounced by a tight end in all years and heroically just about beat out a RB for receiving yards in his best ever season. That Georgia guy sure sounds like a first rounder ehh!

Why did it take Legette 5 years to become WR1 at South Carolina? :hmmm:

I guess now you're going to tell me he had tougher competition than McConkey, who beat out Adonai Mitchell and Jermaine Burton for that spot.

I wonder if Legette would've been as productive this year in a run first offense with a game manager college QB.

:o)

[Womble]

Why did it take Legette 5 years to become WR1 at South Carolina? :hmmm:

I guess now you're going to tell me he had tougher competition than McConkey, who beat out Adonai Mitchell and Jermaine Burton for that spot.

I wonder if Legette would've been as productive this year in a run first offense with a game manager college QB.

:o)

No idea and not relevant either. All I know is that when he got the opportunity to be a WR1 in the SEC he smashed it out the park. McConkey in the same role didn't. You just can't argue that McConkey had anywhere close to as good of a season in any of his years than the season Legette just had. We don't yet know whether McConkey has it in him to be THE guy, but Legette has done it. I'd rather take my chances with the bloke who has been the undisputed best receiver on a team than a guy who's played second fiddle despite being the WR1. Especially if it's our first round draft pick.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

No idea and not relevant either. All I know is that when he got the opportunity to be a WR1 in the SEC he smashed it out the park. McConkey in the same role didn't. You just can't argue that McConkey had anywhere close to as good of a season in any of his years than the season Legette just had. We don't yet know whether McConkey has it in him to be THE guy, but Legette has done it. I'd rather take my chances with the bloke who has been the undisputed best receiver on a team than a guy who's played second fiddle despite being the WR1. Especially if it's our first round draft pick.


Again... He missed the first four games and 3 of those vs. the worst teams on their schedule where you pad stats. Legette had 455 yards vs. Furman, Jacksonville State and Vanderbilt, the 3 worst teams on their schedule.

[staylor26]

No idea and not relevant either. All I know is that when he got the opportunity to be a WR1 in the SEC he smashed it out the park. McConkey in the same role didn't. You just can't argue that McConkey had anywhere close to as good of a season in any of his years than the season Legette just had. We don't yet know whether McConkey has it in him to be THE guy, but Legette has done it. I'd rather take my chances with the bloke who has been the undisputed best receiver on a team than a guy who's played second fiddle despite being the WR1. Especially if it's our first round draft pick.

So Legette having an extra year is irrelevant? How convenient. Just like everything else that goes against your lazy narrative. And you had the nerve to call me disingenuous LMAO

[Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan]

Again... He missed the first four games and 3 of those vs. the worst teams on their schedule where you pad stats. Legette had 455 yards vs. Furman, Jacksonville State and Vanderbilt, the 3 worst teams on their schedule.

Maybe I’m missing something, but why would we care how he might have done against bottom-feeders?

Impress me by doing great against the best competition possible.

I have no dog in this fight, but using that argument seems strange to me.

[493rd]

Sure I'm probably wrong. I don't think they trade up, but if they do it will be for an LT. And again, it's weird you are hoping that RR gets more than 4?

Where did I ever say I was hoping Rice gets more than 4 games? Allow me to retort - I didn’t. However, I do believe he will get more than 4 games and it has nothing to do with a silly bet.

[lewdog]

Legette is the most over-rated WR talent in the first rounds. DO NOT WANT.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Xavier Worthy

[Warrick]

The Chiefs should make an effort to draft Adonai Mitchell...

https://youtu.be/I9PPe1KiHw4?si=WdqlJbEFAPGeOS-J

[icepick64]

Xavier Worthy

Please no...Jon Ross 2.0

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Maybe I’m missing something, but why would we care how he might have done against bottom-feeders?

Impress me by doing great against the best competition possible.

I have no dog in this fight, but using that argument seems strange to me.

I am pointing out the McConkey missed the first 4 games last year, which included the 3 easiest teams on their schedule. When you are comparing productivity, like Womble, with someone who played the whole season and played against 3 easy teams, you aren't comparing apples to apples. Actually, McConkey's production was against the better teams on their schedule.

[ChiefsFan63]

Guyton - OT - Oklahoma

[Stryker]

Brian Thomas Jr. Trade up to 16 with the Seahawks and GET HIM! :thumb:

[TEX]

The Chiefs should make an effort to draft Adonai Mitchell...

https://youtu.be/I9PPe1KiHw4?si=WdqlJbEFAPGeOS-J

That's my pick also.

[SAGA45]

With McConkey, you're getting a guy who's ready and able to contribute now, instantly carving out a role but the ceiling is low due to physical limitations (at least in comparison to Leggette who's just as fast and explosive from a testing standpoint despite being 35-40lbs heavier).

Some people throw Garrett Wilson's name in there as a comp for McConkey based purely on measurables but he is nowhere near as dynamic as Wilson with the ball in his hands nor as acrobatic when the ball is in the air. To me, McConkey is a faster version of Hunter Renfrow which isn't a bad thing to be honest.

With Leggette, you're adding a kid who definitely needs some work on the subtleties of the position but offers you a rare profile to work with and near limitless upside. It might take him a bit longer to get up to speed but when it all comes together for him, I believe you'd have a guy capable of absolutely taking over games.

So, in the end, I think it boils down to the team, their scheme, the urgency of their need at wr, and how patient they feel they can be with the kid's development in year one. If you need to plug a guy in NOW then McConkey's your choice. But if you feel you have a WR corps in place that allows you the time to cultivate a rookie's potential then you're taking Leggette.

In my opinion, Leggette simply offers a skillset/physical profile combination that the Chiefs don't currently have in their WR room. Not to mention Leggette's film pops a lot more than McConkey's in my opinion. Those two factors give Leggette the edge in my eyes.

Just my $0.02. :thumb:

[Why Not?]

I would be happy with either one so I have no DITF either. But it's not particularly fair to judge McConkey's numbers in comparison with other WR. Georgia's offense runs through it's run game and it's TE. It's that way be design. Georgia is also usually leading in the second half of games and often leading by a bunch so it's not like their QB is dropping back 50 times a game.

[Willie Lanier]

I'm sold on AD Mitchell even if it costs some compensation in picks to jump Buffalo; I've given up on the Brian Thomas Jr dream, but AD would be a great backup plan

[Monticore]

With McConkey, you're getting a guy who's ready and able to contribute now, instantly carving out a role but the ceiling is low due to physical limitations (at least in comparison to Leggette who's just as fast and explosive from a testing standpoint despite being 35-40lbs heavier).

Some people throw Garrett Wilson's name in there as a comp for McConkey based purely on measurables but he is nowhere near as dynamic as Wilson with the ball in his hands nor as acrobatic when the ball is in the air. To me, McConkey is a faster version of Hunter Renfrow which isn't a bad thing to be honest.

With Leggette, you're adding a kid who definitely needs some work on the subtleties of the position but offers you a rare profile to work with and near limitless upside. It might take him a bit longer to get up to speed but when it all comes together for him, I believe you'd have a guy capable of absolutely taking over games.

So, in the end, I think it boils down to the team, their scheme, the urgency of their need at wr, and how patient they feel they can be with the kid's development in year one. If you need to plug a guy in NOW then McConkey's your choice. But if you feel you have a WR corps in place that allows you the time to cultivate a rookie's potential then you're taking Leggette.

In my opinion, Leggette simply offers a skillset/physical profile combination that the Chiefs don't currently have in their WR room. Not to mention Leggette's film pops a lot more than McConkey's in my opinion. Those two factors give Leggette the edge in my eyes.

Just my $0.02. :thumb:

Couldn’t you wait for leggette? Seems like a reach at 32 , might not make it to 64 but could trade up in the second and go BPA at 32 ?

[wazu]

I had a dream last night that the Chiefs first 4 picks were WRs. Somehow we ended up with 4 picks in the first 2 rounds, and went Adonai Mitchell, Xavier Worthy, Xavier Legette, and somebody else. (Dream might have just turned into drafting guys named Xavier.)

Anyway, this dream pretty much cements for me the player I was most impressed with just watching some highlights via my amateur eye. Chiefs will draft WR Adonai Mitchell, Texas.

[Sassy Squatch]

Chiefs need to find a way up the board for a LT, even if it's an unfair trade. Humphrey and Smith are both due contracts in 2025 and the Chiefs may not pay either one with how the IOL market got inflated, I'm assuming they want out from under Thuney sooner rather than later, and we currently don't even have a legitimate option at LT on roster. Stopgapping LT again would mean we're potentially looking at having to replace 3, if not 4, OL spots in 2025.

[RunKC]

The latest…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs are drafting a pass catcher or a tackle. I’d be shocked if it’s anything else unless they have another McDuffie situation where someone they didn’t expect to be there is actually in their vicinity. But it’s WR/TE or tackle. <a href="https://t.co/gDYkttQZVK">https://t.co/gDYkttQZVK</a> <a href="https://t.co/Ew9xPjBc8S">pic.twitter.com/Ew9xPjBc8S</a></p>&mdash; Chase Snyder (@ChasingSnyder) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChasingSnyder/status/1782367350341132477?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bowser]

Chiefs need to find a way up the board for a LT, even if it's an unfair trade. Humphrey and Smith are both due contracts in 2025 and the Chiefs may not pay either one with how the IOL market got inflated, I'm assuming they want out from under Thuney sooner rather than later, and we currently don't even have a legitimate option at LT on roster. Stopgapping LT again would mean we're potentially looking at having to replace 3, if not 4, OL spots in 2025.

As much as I want one of the potential stud wideouts in round 1.......this is the way.

[Woogieman]

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Some apparently can't fathom a white WR breaking ankles and flattening tires. LM did against good competition.

[Woogieman]

As much as I want one of the potential stud wideouts in round 1.......this is the way.

I think this is the way to go. Take care of LT (will lilkely cost you #2), the get someone like Devontez Walker, Jalen MciMillan in the 3rd, and maybe an Anthony Gould in the 5th. Don't sleep on Nikko!!

[New World Order]

A BIG TACKLE!!!!

[ThrobProng]

The latest…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs are drafting a pass catcher or a tackle. I’d be shocked if it’s anything else unless they have another McDuffie situation where someone they didn’t expect to be there is actually in their vicinity. But it’s WR/TE or tackle. <a href="https://t.co/gDYkttQZVK">https://t.co/gDYkttQZVK</a> <a href="https://t.co/Ew9xPjBc8S">pic.twitter.com/Ew9xPjBc8S</a></p>&mdash; Chase Snyder (@ChasingSnyder) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChasingSnyder/status/1782367350341132477?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I would think the front office has learned to not panic because of a "looming suspension" after drafting Hardman in an attempt to offset the potential loss of Tyreek.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Please no...Jon Ross 2.0

Unlike John Ross, I'm pretty sure he can run a route and catch a ball.

[RunKC]

Nate Taylor’s (final?) mock. Feels like everybody would be more than happy with this one. Only thing I don’t like is that he only picked one weapon early. I think we’re picking another weapon in the 4th or 5th rd latest

Round 1, Pick No. 22: Brian Thomas Jr., WR, LSU

Trade: The Chiefs traded their first-round pick (No. 32), a 2025 third-round pick (via the Titans) and their 2025 sixth-round pick to the Eagles for No. 22.

The sounds you would hear in the Chiefs’ draft room if this selection occurred is one of cheers, high-fives and grown men screaming, “Yeah!” over and over again.

We’ve arrived at a dream scenario for the Chiefs, who need to add a dynamic receiver to pair with quarterback Patrick Mahomes, the league’s best quarterback who is in his prime. Thomas possesses size (6-foot-4), excellent hands and a strong route-running ability. In 2023, Thomas produced an FBS-best 17 touchdown receptions, the most by a Power 5 receiver since DeVonta Smith (23) in 2020.

Round 3, Pick No. 74: Patrick Paul, OT, Houston

Trade: The Chiefs traded a second-round pick (No. 64) and a fourth-rounder (131) to the Falcons for No. 74, a fourth-round pick (109) and a 2025 fourth-round pick.

After trading up in the first round, you pretty much have to stay put in the second round, which can be excruciating. This was the case in this mock. The last four picks before the Chiefs’ turn proved to be difficult to watch, as prospects who fit the team’s scheme and roster needs — Western Michigan defensive end Marshawn Kneeland, Connecticut guard Christian Haynes and tackles Kiran Amegadjie (Yale) and Kingsley Suamataia (BYU) — were selected.

Trading down then became more attractive and practical. The Chiefs moved down 10 spots in this deal with the Falcons, ensuring they’ll have at least seven picks in next year’s draft. Once again, PFF’s mock draft simulator estimated that the Chiefs’ trade offer had an 83 percent chance of being accepted.

Another reason to consider trading down was the run on offensive linemen in the first round, setting up the potential for Paul to still be available with the 74th selection. Known as a developmental prospect for the Chiefs, acquiring Paul creates quite a compelling competition against second-year player Wanya Morris for the starting left tackle job. Paul has plenty of talent, but he needs to polish his blocking techniques.

“Paul has the size and length to keep defenders occupied, but his rhythm breaks down quickly, and opponents will find success until he improves his rudimentary recovery technique and hand usage,” Brugler wrote of Paul, whom he graded as the 59th-best prospect. “Similar in ways to Chukwuma Okorafor, he has the tools to develop into a functional NFL starter, but he might require a redshirt year.

Other notable prospects potentially available: wide receiver Malachi Corley (Western Kentucky), defensive end Bralen Trice (Washington), offensive tackle Blake Fisher (Notre Dame) and running back Jaylen Wright (Tennessee).

Round 3, Pick No. 95: Christian Mahogany, G, Boston College

This selection is an endorsement of Brugler, who projected the Chiefs to select Mahogany with this exact pick last week in his seven-round mock. The Chiefs have just three guards on their roster: Joe Thuney (who is recovering from a pectoral injury), Trey Smith (who is entering the final year of his rookie contract) and Mike Caliendo (who has limited experience). The bonus is that Mahogany’s play style includes plenty of intensity and passion.

“He plays like a bouncer outside of a club, looking to bash heads with power and forceful hands,” Brugler wrote. “He projects as a guard-versatile NFL starter, ideally suited for a downhill run team.”

Other notable prospects potentially available: linebacker Tommy Eichenberg (Ohio State), tight end Ben Sinnott (Kansas State), offensive tackle Dominick Puni (Kansas) and wide receiver Brenden Rice (USC).

Round 4, Pick No. 109: T’Vondre Sweat, DT, Texas

Acquired via trade with the Falcons.

My initial thought was to select Sinnott, a talented all-around tight end who could learn from Travis Kelce and Noah Gray. But do you know how many defensive tackles are projected to be on the roster in 2025? The answer, according to Over the Cap, is two: Chris Jones and Neil Farrell Jr.

Sweat is the ideal prospect to help the Chiefs stuff the run. Listed at 6-5 and 366 pounds, Sweat is a freakish athlete who projects to be an ascending player. Can you imagine him and Jones together, destroying the interior of an opponent’s offensive line?

“Sweat must continue turning the brilliant flashes into more consistency, but he is a rare athlete for his size, with the power and ingredients to be a dominant force against the run,” Brugler wrote. “Though he has the traits to become an impactful NFL starter, he needs to stay conditioned and locked in to reach his potential.”

Round 5, Pick No. 159: Cedric Gray, LB, North Carolina

Round 5, Pick No. 173 (compensatory): Kalen King, CB, Penn State

Round 7, Pick No. 221: Tanner McLachlan, TE, Arizona

Gray has the talent to make the Chiefs’ initial roster if he does well in training camp and the preseason. He could be a strong contributor on special teams. King and McLachlan could learn on the practice squad as part of their development process.

[Bowser]

Not a fan of the Mahogany or McLachlan picks. Other than that, I could see a very similar scenario playing out. Sweat in the fourth might be a bit of a coup.

[SAGA45]

Couldn’t you wait for leggette? Seems like a reach at 32 , might not make it to 64 but could trade up in the second and go BPA at 32 ?

Heck yeah! That'd work for me!

[RunKC]

This can be up for debate but I have a hard time seeing any way BTJ makes it past 20. I think there are a handful of teams that would take him, including the desperate Bills via trade up.

[Bowser]

This can be up for debate but I have a hard time seeing any way BTJ makes it past 20. I think there are a handful of teams that would take him, including the desperate Bills via trade up.

I really feel the Bills are locked in on Xavier Worthy. They're dreaming about Worthy's speed and Allen's cannon arm making Madden plays for them.

[The Franchise]

This can be up for debate but I have a hard time seeing any way BTJ makes it past 20. I think there are a handful of teams that would take him, including the desperate Bills via trade up.

I also think it would take more than what Nate listed to move up. Why would the Eagles trade down for only a future 3rd and 6th? It cost a 3rd and 4th in the same draft year to move up for McDuffie.

[The Franchise]

I really feel the Bills are locked in on Xavier Worthy. They're dreaming about Worthy's speed and Allen's cannon arm making Madden plays for them.

The Bills would be getting the same thing with BTJ....just more height.

[Mile High Mania]

I think they take the best WR available.

[notorious]

I think they take the best WR available.

The one glaring weakness.

It's going to be a fatty or a WR.

[Bowser]

I think they take the best WR available.

I want them to do that, but I really hope they don't. Super Squatch broke it down as to why we seriously need a tackle in the first round this year. If we take a receiver, it's going to put us in a bind with the O-Line a season or two down the road, and with the depth at receiver this year we should hold off for one until the second round.

I'd love any of BTJ, Mitchell, McConkey, Worthy, or Franklin (even though I'm reading he's like a third round talent??) as the pick, but the Chiefs should make the smart play Thursday.

[Woogieman]

So would the same be true with Brian Thomas (Malik Nabers, Jayden Daniels), and Marvin Harrison Jr (Egbuka, Stover, Henderson), and Odunze (Penix, polk, McMillan)??

[Bowser]

The Bills would be getting the same thing with BTJ....just more height.

No argument here, and honestly, I hope they don't get him.

I'm basing my prediction off the Bills'....uh.....less than stellar drafting the last few years. They just saw that official 4.21 time and got all wrapped up in the possibilities.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

I want them to do that, but I really hope they don't. Super Squatch broke it down as to why we seriously need a tackle in the first round this year. If we take a receiver, it's going to put us in a bind with the O-Line a season or two down the road, and with the depth at receiver this year we should hold off for one until the second round.

I'd love any of BTJ, Mitchell, McConkey, Worthy, or Franklin (even though I'm reading he's like a third round talent??) as the pick, but the Chiefs should make the smart play Thursday.

It would sure be nice to take a first round WR for the first time in a zillion years though. Taking one in the late 2nd hasn't generally worked out that great.

[ThrobProng]

I hope Buffalo drafts a 160 lb. WR. We'll get to see another Bill die on the field.

[Couch-Potato]

Can we get a poll going?

[SAGA45]

I hope Buffalo drafts a 160 lb. WR. We'll get to see another Bill die on the field.

Nah bruh. This ain't it.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I really feel the Bills are locked in on Xavier Worthy. They're dreaming about Worthy's speed and Allen's cannon arm making Madden plays for them.

They have the worst starting WRs in football currently. Shitkur and Curtis Samuel is awful as the top 2 targets. Two numbers 3s starting ROFL

[Jerm]

I really feel the Bills are locked in on Xavier Worthy. They're dreaming about Worthy's speed and Allen's cannon arm making Madden plays for them.

I think they take McConkey or Franklin if they stay at 28....

[Womble]

Realistically which teams are going to entertain us with a trade in the first round? Even the top NFC teams don't want us to strengthen on the basis that they'll probably be facing the Chiefs in the Super Bowl if they get there. I don't for one moment think the Eagles are going to do a trade with the Chiefs and the Vikings are going to use their later first round pick to try and move up and take a QB. The Rams have 11 picks so that makes them unlikely. Perhaps Pittsburgh?

[staylor26]

The Bills like size, and their WR room is extremely small now. No way they take Worthy.

[Direckshun]

Realistically which teams are going to entertain us with a trade in the first round? Even the top NFC teams don't want us to strengthen on the basis that they'll probably be facing the Chiefs in the Super Bowl if they get there. I don't for one moment think the Eagles are going to do a trade with the Chiefs and the Vikings are going to use their later first round pick to try and move up and take a QB. The Rams have 11 picks so that makes them unlikely. Perhaps Pittsburgh?

Pitt needs offensive linemen even worse than we do.

I think it's extremely likely the Chiefs stay put at 32, or they completely overpay to move into the early 20s if a guy falls.

[TwistedChief]

The Bills like size, and their WR room is extremely small now. No way they take Worthy.

I don't see how they don't take Mitchell. He seems a good fit there.

[staylor26]

I don't see how they don't take Mitchell. He seems a good fit there.

I could see them trading up for BTJ out of fear of getting jumped again, but yea, it's likely Mitchell if they stay put.

[DJ's left nut]

I could see them trading up for BTJ out of fear of getting jumped again, but yea, it's likely Mitchell if they stay put.

That's how I see us getting Mitchell if we end up with him.

If the Bills don't trade up, we don't get Mitchell - he's going to Buffalo. But if Buffalo trades up for BTJ, I could see Mitchell sliding the rest of the way to us.

Dallas still feels like a good trade-up candidate if that happens and we get a little skittish.

[staylor26]

That's how I see us getting Mitchell if we end up with him.

If the Bills don't trade up, we don't get Mitchell - he's going to Buffalo. But if Buffalo trades up for BTJ, I could see Mitchell sliding the rest of the way to us.

Dallas still feels like a good trade-up candidate if that happens and we get a little skittish.

Great point, because you really don't see many spots for Mitchell in the 20s outside of Buffalo.

[The Franchise]

I could see them trading up for BTJ out of fear of getting jumped again, but yea, it's likely Mitchell if they stay put.

Yeah, I think Buffalo has a little PTSD from the McDuffie trade. I could see them overpaying a little to jump into the teens for BTJ.

[ThrobProng]

Nah bruh. This ain't it.

Speak for yourself. It would be must-see TV.

[raybec 4]

That's how I see us getting Mitchell if we end up with him.

If the Bills don't trade up, we don't get Mitchell - he's going to Buffalo. But if Buffalo trades up for BTJ, I could see Mitchell sliding the rest of the way to us.

Dallas still feels like a good trade-up candidate if that happens and we get a little skittish.

I think the Bills are scared of getting leap frogged again. They trade up if there's a guy they really like.

[Pinchshot]

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Some apparently can't fathom a white WR breaking ankles and flattening tires. LM did against good competition.

Julian Edelman 2.0

[UChieffyBugger]

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Some apparently can't fathom a white WR breaking ankles and flattening tires. LM did against good competition.

The question is is he....

WHITE WR= Thielan, Kupp or Edelman?

Or

White wr= Renfrow, Pierce or Beasley?

This is the fear. The top bunch would be great and could elevate the offense. But the bottom bunch would be ok and play a role. And right now it's hard to know what group Ladd falls into. Questions about him only being a slot guy and struggling against press linger in the air.

[staylor26]

The question is is he....

WHITE WR= Thielan, Kupp or Edelman?

Or

White wr= Renfrow, Pierce or Beasley?

This is the fear. The top bunch would be great and could elevate the offense. But the bottom bunch would be ok and play a role. And right now it's hard to know what group Ladd falls into. Questions about him only being a slot guy and struggling against press linger in the air.

The question is is Adonai Mitchell...

BLACK WR = Higgins, Pickens or Lamb?

Or

Black wr = Baldwin, Benjamin or Claypool?

See how stupid that is?

[UChieffyBugger]

The question is is Adonai Mitchell...

BLACK WR = Higgins, Pickens or Lamb?

Or

Black wr = Baldwin, Benjamin or Claypool?

See how stupid that is?

The post I responded to talked about "people can't fathom a white wr breaking ankles". And I merely added onto why there is doubt.

Good black wideouts are a dime a dozen. Good white wideouts aren't. Kupp and Theilan are older now and there's no young good ones at the moment. That's just a fact :evil: .

[RunKC]

Javon Baker
Jalen McMillan
Tex Walker
Xavier Legette

All in on a top 30 visit. Seems like they are more than preparing for a 2nd rd WR.

[staylor26]

Javon Baker
Jalen McMillan
Tex Walker
Xavier Legette

Seems like they are more than preparing for a 2nd rd WR.

But they haven't really met with any 1st round players at all.

I wouldn't read too much into that.

[ForeverChiefs58]

OL Patrick Paul

[Rainbarrel]

Whoever, I will probably sexually harass them at their job

[Tribal Warfare]

FWIW, Nick Wright believes the Chiefs will go O-Tackle in the 1st

[old_geezer]

FWIW, Nick Wright believes the Chiefs will go O-Tackle in the 1st

As it stands they almost have to. I can't believe they go into the season with Morris and Prince Winnebago as their options at LT. Signing Donovan Smith or someone else to a one year contract just pushes the problem to next year when they already have Bolton, Creed and Trey Smith to sign or replace

[Woogieman]

As it stands they almost have to. I can't believe they go into the season with Morris and Prince Winnebago as their options at LT. Signing Donovan Smith or someone else to a one year contract just pushes the problem to next year when they already have Bolton, Creed and Trey Smith to sign or replace

If so, that will surely mean a trade-up if a GM is willing. If they go WR, they would more likely pick who falls to 32, which would probably be AD Mitchell or Worthy, or maybe McConkey near slot or reach for Franklin or Legette. I generally hate trading up, but this year makes sense if you can get Latham or Mims in the mid 20s

[PatMahomesIsGod]

Some MFing stud.

[BigRedChief]

No matter how the trade ups or downs go on draft day, we are taking a WR. No matter how it shakes out, there will be a WR worthy of pick 32 for us to take.

[bsp4444]

Unrelated but related, my boss's son gets to announce the Chiefs first round pick. Part of the Make-A-Wish foundation.

[PatMahomesIsGod]

Anyone said Leon Sandcastle yet?

[ThrobProng]

Unrelated but related, my boss's son gets to announce the Chiefs first round pick. Part of the Make-A-Wish foundation.

That's awesome. Not as good as driving lessons from Rashee Rice, but awesome.

[PatMahomesIsGod]

That's awesome. Not as good as driving lessons from Rashee Rice, but awesome.

I drove 120 once on an Interstate in an Accord.

Mistakes happen.

[RunKC]

Assuming BTJ is gone in the teens, I don’t think it’s worth it to trade up for a WR. If Fautanu is gone early I’m not sure it’s necessary to trade up for a tackle.

The argument is basically:

Mitchell and Worthy vs the field aka McConkey, Pearsall, Franklin

Mims and Guyton vs the field aka Morgan, Suamataia and Paul

Of course you could also take one of Mitchell or Worthy if one is at 32 which I think is very possible. It’s hard to tell bc we don’t know who Veach loves, but the more you look at this the more you think it makes sense to trade up in rd 2 than rd 1.

[Woogieman]

Assuming BTJ is gone in the teens, I don’t think it’s worth it to trade up for a WR. If Fautanu is gone early I’m not sure it’s necessary to trade up for a tackle.

The argument is basically:

Mitchell and Worthy vs the field aka McConkey, Pearsall, Franklin

Mims and Guyton vs the field aka Morgan, Suamataia and Paul

Of course you could also take one of Mitchell or Worthy if one is at 32 which I think is very possible. It’s hard to tell bc we don’t know who Veach loves, but the more you look at this the more you think it makes sense to trade up in rd 2 than rd 1.

Agree...I think the sweet spot is 35-55, if the Chiefs can somehow finagle 2 picks in that range + 64, it will be a very good draft

[CoMoChief]

If they trade up: Mims (Not enough ammo to trade up for Alt)

If not trading up...Guyton or Suamataia

If they go WR (even though may be a reach) Legette or Worthy, they may go this route if they decide to trade back as well.

[Red Dawg]

The latest…

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs are drafting a pass catcher or a tackle. I’d be shocked if it’s anything else unless they have another McDuffie situation where someone they didn’t expect to be there is actually in their vicinity. But it’s WR/TE or tackle. <a href="https://t.co/gDYkttQZVK">https://t.co/gDYkttQZVK</a> <a href="https://t.co/Ew9xPjBc8S">pic.twitter.com/Ew9xPjBc8S</a></p>&mdash; Chase Snyder (@ChasingSnyder) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChasingSnyder/status/1782367350341132477?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What joke. The Chiefs are drafting a college football player. I would be shocked if it was anything else.

[BigRedChief]

Unrelated but related, my boss's son gets to announce the Chiefs first round pick. Part of the Make-A-Wish foundation.Thats really cool. Should do something like this every year.

[staylor26]

What joke. The Chiefs are drafting a college football player. I would be shocked if it was anything else.

LMAO

Why are you so angry?

[TwistedChief]

LMAO

Why are you so angry?

Seriously. He makes you look like the Dalai Lama.