Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5245614)

no I dont see any probowler or rookie sapp in him at this point. i really don't. and if thats what people are expecting, then just know he has a REALLY long way to go to get there.

Im convinced that people compare him to sapp from what they saw from coming out of college. but he hasnt shown that in the nfl. And of course there is the stats, sapp had 27 tackles his rookie year, and 3 sacks....but but dorsey has 30 tackles and 1 sack. Therefore, he is already ahead of what sapp did and will be a good player? which imo is totally stupid

*the bottomline is, ive watched him these past 11 games, and have kept my eye on him, he doesnt possess the skills or qualities sapp had playing the DT position. He is far far from it.

Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5245645)

everyone is entitled to an opinion asshole...there is a difference between accepting an opinion or just being an ignorant prick. Obviously you have a hard time accepting ones opinion

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5245649)

You didn't seem to be thinking this when you were saying the Chiefs should draft Sedrick Ellis.....

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5245655)

I didn't say I had a problem with the pick....all rookie DT's will need to get bigger and stronger, even the really big guys.

I think Dorsey will be a fine player but I don't think they should be lining him up with another 300lb DT.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5245640)

Don't bring up Haynesworth...Dorsey and Haynesworth are nothing alike Haynesworth makes him look small he is several inches taller and 50lbs heavier.

I don't think Dorsey is a bad player, DTs do take time, but I do see a problem where he isn't big enough or strong enough so he needs to spend alot of time in the weight room in the offseason.

The league is going to the bigger 340lb DT now, those are the sought after guys...by having 2 undesized DT's like the Chiefs do it's almost like you're playing behind the curve the undersized fast DT was in 5 years ago but not now.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5245655)

I didn't say I had a problem with the pick....all rookie DT's will need to get bigger and stronger, even the really big guys.

I think Dorsey will be a fine player but I don't think they should be lining him up with another 300lb DT.

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5245660)

I said last night in another thread, I think we need to find a 330+ NT to line up next to Dorsey. For now I think we should have Tank and Dorsey switch places.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5245669)

I agree with that.....

Of course I don't think we'll see that because the Chiefs are still trying to run this Tampa 2 dinosaur that even Tampa Bay doesn't play anymore.

Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5245681)

He also needs to use some more rips and swims. Too many times he is focused on bullrushing.

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5245680)

We can only hope Herm takes the same approach with defense next year that he took with the offense this year. Hire a DC and let him do his thing!

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5245687)

No way Herm plays a different defense, he tried to play it with the Jets when they had 3-4 players.

Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5245230)

Plain and simple.

Another bust of a DT:cuss:

JWhit is right about everything he said about Dorsey. I thought he was supposed to be the centerpiece around the DLine? "Supposively" supposed to be that difference maker?

Yeah:rolleyes:

Not even close.

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5245690)

Well I don't agree that the Jets had 3-4 players while Herm was there, but yeah I knew Herm wont leave the Tampa two. I just hope he at least bring in a staff that can run it. Drafting a huge DT in the later rounds would be nice though, since we don't run the T2 every down.