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Old 11-24-2008, 11:08 AM   Topic Starter
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Dorsey sucks

Plain and simple.

Another bust of a DT

JWhit is right about everything he said about Dorsey. I thought he was supposed to be the centerpiece around the DLine? "Supposively" supposed to be that difference maker?

Yeah

Not even close.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:10 AM   #2
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:11 AM   #3
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I think that if we would get some other players around him, he'd improve. It's too early to call him a bust yet. No one else can even get close to the opposing qb.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:14 AM   #4
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while his footwork and conditioning need some work (off season training and hitting the weights can resolve that) he's doing his job atm and drawing doubleteams. its not his fault our Ends cant beat man coverage. i think just like our passing game last year... people knew we couldnt pass so they stacked 8 or 9 guys in the box to stop the run. this year teams know our ends couldnt sack an old lady crossing the street so they jsut clog the middle and let man on man take care of our rush or.... laugh when our guys WHIFF on tackles.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:11 AM   #5
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what part of it takes more than 10 games to develop a DT haven't you read?
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:12 AM   #6
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what part of it takes more than 10 games to develop a DT haven't you read?
Yeah i've heard that numerous times. I dont buy it.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:18 AM   #7
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Yeah i've heard that numerous times. I dont buy it.
So your saying the facts are a myth. It been proven time after time, that DT arent a big impact in their rookie year, just look at the numbers.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:21 AM   #8
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So your saying the facts are a myth. It been proven time after time, that DT arent a big impact in their rookie year, just look at the numbers.
No im saying that. im looking at how he is doing this year. He isnt making any progress. Like Badguy said, he isn't improving as the season goes on.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:42 AM   #9
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what part of it takes more than 10 games to develop a DT haven't you read?
It probably takes more than that for any position, but especially where he is playing, with poor DEs. If JA was still here, he may be getting some more help.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:11 AM   #10
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:12 AM   #11
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What's truly concerning to me is he's not improving as the year goes on.

I know the curve is big, and he'll likely snap out of it, but this guy was said to be the most NFL ready DT since Sapp. We all bought that hype.

I'm not saying he sucks yet, but he has a long, long way to go.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:17 AM   #12
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What's truly concerning to me is he's not improving as the year goes on.

I know the curve is big, and he'll likely snap out of it, but this guy was said to be the most NFL ready DT since Sapp. We all bought that hype.

I'm not saying he sucks yet, but he has a long, long way to go.
Sapp's rookie year stat line was 27 tackles, 3 sacks and 1 int.

Through 11 games Dorsey has 30 tackles, 1 sack and 1 FF.
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Old 11-24-2008, 02:26 PM   #13
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What's truly concerning to me is he's not improving as the year goes on.

I know the curve is big, and he'll likely snap out of it, but this guy was said to be the most NFL ready DT since Sapp. We all bought that hype.

I'm not saying he sucks yet, but he has a long, long way to go.
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YEARTEAMGTOTSOLOASTPDSACKFFRECINTYDSTD
1995TAM1626161053.010151


Glenn Dorsey Stats

YEARTEAMGTOTSOLOASTPDSACKFFRECINTYDSTD
2008KAN113025501.010000


So he has more tackles, a few less sacks, needs an int.... Ummm
These are actually pretty solid stats for a rookie D-Tackle, and Dorsey has 5 more games left. I agree that he isn't as influential as Sapp was his rookie season, but I also thought that Matt Ryan would be terrible, so what do I know.
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Old 11-24-2008, 11:12 AM   #14
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