13 seasons = no playoffs

Brady shows up in year one - SB champs beating Brees, Rodgers (on road), blows out Mahomes in SB on his way to his 5th SB MVP ... oh at age 43. LOL

That is what the GOAT does.

And hiring people who hired other people, which led to having a front office that assembled great teams for years.

False. Even if that game was played and Cincy won KC would still have been the #1 seed due to having a better record.

Not the Bengals, they would have been 13-4.

Tell me then what has happened to Kraft's "genius" these last 4 years without Brady?

Sure that’s what it was. They were the proverbial Jaguars until Brady showed up and then like magic they won it all. No point in arguing it anymore as you (and pretty much every other Brady groupie) give Brady and Brady only credit for everything. Everyone else is just along for the ride.

Bill Walsh was 6-19 before Joe Montana became his full time starting QB.

Andy went to four straight NFC Championship Games with a non-HOF caliber QB, Donovan McNabb.

Also Bill Walsh won in the pre-salary cap era when he was able to stockpile talent.

The Patriots front office is as responsible for those championships as Brady or Belichick. Same goes for all champions.

Sure. I guess they just forgot how to do everything after Brady left.

Let me ask you, did Veach and Reid all of a sudden enter the GOAT discussion because they are just soooo smart or did #15 have something to do with it?

Just like Brady was gifted his 7th Super Bowl... playing in his home stadium, Mahomes playing behind a decimated offensive line, etc.

Also what are your thoughts on the fact that the Bucs are one game better, through 15 weeks this season, with Baker Mayfield than they were last season with Tommy Bitch?

Bad look for Brady.

Of course Mahomes had something to do with it. Veach is now the GM in large part because as a scout, he pounded the table for Mahomes. Take away any one of Veach, Reid, or Mahomes, and the Chiefs still don't have any rings this century.

Gifted? LOL. He put up 31 through 2.5 quarters. If the offense bothered to try to keep scoring, it would have been a 50 burger.

Why is the Bucs having a decent season a bad look for Brady? Arians is not even there anymore ...

Because the Bucs are having a more "decent" season with basically the same team compared to what they did last year with Tommy Bitch at QB.

And Arians wasn't there last year either.

Are you just a Tommy Bitch fanboy and not a fan of the teams he plays for?

Apparently.

Again, why is that a bad look? Brady won the division and went to the playoffs. I guess we'll see if this year's team can actually win a playoff game.

That just means that they took awhile to gel, and also underachieved during the regular season. Again, the “experts” said that they were better than KC at all but a handful of positions. A team that lost 1 regular season game (other than when they sat starters).