Haven't voted yet; lot of great candidates.


Somewhat surprised that Tom Landry isn't on the list though. Went to 5 SBs, won two of them. 250 Ws, a winning % in the playoffs (.558). Invented the 4-3 defense, solid coaching tree (including Mike Ditka, Dan Reeves).

Brady dicksucker here must have taken gaslighting lessons from diqlix.

How convenient to leave out the fact that NE had been to the SB 5 years earlier and 10 years before that.

Does not change the fact that they won ZERO. And then SIX chips with the GOAT in 18 years, who then went on to Tampa to win his SEVENTH - more than any other NFL franchise. Brady owns the NFL ...

John Earl Madden

21 of those points was due to corrupt officiating. You do realize that right?

Was Walsh any more instrumental in 'changing the way the game is played' than Reid? Or BB for that matter?

Walsh's WCO still wasn't en vogue until Reid had a ton of success with it. I mean into the mid-90s you still had ground and pound teams. You still had Air Coryell offenses and Houston out there with essentially an Air Raid system. Erhard-Perkins had more disciples than the Walsh WCO did.

I just think Walsh is being overrated here. Both by discounting the fact that he ALSO only ever won with an all-time great (just as BB) and by overestimating the impact he had on offenses in general.

His offenses got a nickname, but the idea of underneath/horizontal stresses and timing offenses weren't unique to Walsh, nor did they put the NFL on its ear. They didn't become the dominant paradigm until years later when those systems were built into something that attacked horizontally AND vertically (i.e. by merging the WCO and Coryell approaches).

Yeah, I can't get there with Walsh. It's not like he went out there as the OC for the Bengals in the 70s and was setting the world on fire despite a guy in Ken Anderson who proved to be a very capable and borderline great QB - but not until the 80s after Walsh was long gone.

Excellent coach and worthy HoFer, but the best ever? Nah, don't see it.

Landry should have been there, too.

There is an alternate universe where Marv Levy is the GOAT.

lol, true. And their kicker earned a SB MVP.

Man I love Andy Reid and I realize he has some flaws but it’s hard to make a case that he isn’t.

I think maybe there were some better coaches out there who were better during their peak. But I don’t know that there’s ever been a coach who has a more proven track record of winning (and winning in big games) consistently regardless of era, qb or circumstance, and done it for this long.

Incorrect.

The merger wasn't official until after 1969.

The intention was fine but excluding 50 years of football coaches was dumb.

Shula has the most wins at 328, it took him 33 years to accumulate, and he does have the single perfect season in NFL history. 16 division titles over that span.

But look at his post season. 19-17 when it really counts. Barely above a coin flip at 53% win rate. As for Superbowls? Whooof. 2-4 including getting his ass completely handed to him by Bill Walsh. In that Superbowl Shulas 14-2 Dolphins took on Walsh's 15-1 49ers, and despite being a 3.5 point dog, Shula was blown off the field by 22 points 38-16 with Walsh orchestrating a then superbowl record 537 yards of offense, and then superbowl record 331 yards passing despite Shulas Dolphins having the #5 scoring defense only allowing 18.6 ppg.

Walsh switched his defense to a dime look, and Shula set a superbowl record for fewest rush attempts with 9, for 25 measly yards. Marino was shut down, sacked 4 times and
picked twice. Walsh put literal clown shoes on Don Shula.


It's this example here that shows just because youvwon a shit ton of regular season games, and had one magical undefeated season, I doesn't mean you're the best.

Only one superbowl appearance with Dan Marino in 13 years? That's a pretty big black eye on the body of work.

Yeah? You going through 50 years of old film reels?

SB era represents pro football as we know it.

Go make your own thread with a bunch of Otto Graham footage.