Imagine that 1970’s Raiders team with social media and cell phone cameras everywhere.

Madden would have quit after one season.

Do you know that the 49ers played that Super Bowl at home? Also, the 1984 49ers are arguably the best team in history. There's no shame getting spanked by that team.

Shula didn't do enough with Dan Marino and coached WAY too long. I don't hold that game against him much though. They were never winning that.

I respect the hell out of walsh but it’s so hard to put him in the conversation when his entire career was almost predominantly built off of one era, one qb, one team. Where so many have failed is trying to reinvent themselves or to build the same magic without any of the original parts. Kind of unfair to guys like holmgren whose legacy took a huge hit because he couldn’t replicate the same success (not saying he’s anywhere near the top of the list…)

The NFL as we know it now has 32 teams. There were 26 at the time of the merger. Also, plenty of modern strategies hadn't been invented yet. No Tampa Two defense. If some modern fan watched 1971 football they would be confused and bored at the number of dive runs.

It is an arbitrary line to pick.

Not to mention the poll left out Landry and other great coaches.

I already agreed that Landry should have been in the list.

If you want to sing the praises of George Halas, start your own thread and poll.

Or better yet, select the other option and list your pick like everyone else.

Or demands from the league that he get his fat ass on the plane and fly to games like normal people

yeah. It's the line I chose to pick. In my post.

Are you going to actually add anything at all to the conversation, or just bitch?

Who were the 2 that picked other, and what were they? Curious.

I should've put Landry in the options, I wonder if that's one that others chose.

I’ll throw in another name that could’ve been up there if he hadn’t walked away from coaching so early in his career, Jimmy Johnson. I think Jimmy had the total package of putting together dominant offenses and defenses going back to his college career in Miami. I think it was his 90 or 91 draft that is often cited as being one of the single best drafts of all time. Part of the reason why we hate the Cowboys so much is because those early to mid-nineties teams flat out kicked the shit out of their opponents. They were so good a drunken Barry Switzer won with Jimmy’s team. Now Jimmy loses out also because of his time with the Dolphins but I think by then his heart wasn’t in the game.

That's a good point, but to be fair, very few coaches had sustained success across multiple decades, or with multiple QB's.

But there are a few.

I think, upon realizing now having watched NFL football for 40 plus years, that what Joe Gibbs accomplished is rather astonishing. Gibbs, by the way, is from Don Coryell's coaching tree.

Andy Reid, with what, TWO losing seasons in 23 or something? That's pretty incredible. And really, until Mahomes, never had a GREAT QB. But the knock was that he couldn't win the big one, which we now know was unfair.

It was not unfair, it was true.

This dude had some powerhouse Eagles teams and just couldnt get over the hump to the Superbowl. An alleged offensive guru accompanied by not only one of the greatest defensive minds in football in Jim Johnson, but a ferocious defensive squad at his disposal on the field. Just couldn't get it done.


Let's be real, The Patriots cheated for that Eagles Superbowl, but the way the final 5 minutes of the game was coached by Reid was abysmal and it cost them the football game.


Then the best quarterback to have ever lived dropped into his lap, and what do you know? Heroics by said best qb who ever lived brought home a Lombardi, and after a couple bumps in the road, more heroics by said best qb who ever lived ON ONE LEG, delivered another Lombardi.

Legendary players mask warts and overcome shortcomings on the sideline.

If George Karl had Michael Jordan, he wouldn't be one of only 9 coaches to win 1,000 games but no championship despite 22 postseason appearances. Poor George was another great coach that just never got that legendary player to put his squad over the top.

If Andy Reid had not gotten Mahomes, he'd still be a great coach that won a lot of games, but he wouldn't be a Superbowl winning coach. Look at the playoff performances pre Mahomes.

He presided over two of the worst playoff collapses in NFL history of 28 points to Indy, and 18 points to Tennessee, with a completely impotent offensive display against the Steelers in which we lost the game despite the defense never giving up a td and holding them to 6 field goals.

No Mahomes, no titles for Andy.

I'm shocked! Shocked that this would be your take!

So who's your GOAT?

Unbiased looks at Andy Reid aren't really your strong suit. Youre free to attempt to refute what ive posted here, but its hard to refute facts.

People like to pretend that Andy was this genius in Philly that made chicken salad from chicken shit and that he never had anyone that was any good. Those Philly teams he squandered were more than talented enough to be a dynasty. Just didn't happen.

As for your question, asked and answered, in this thread as well as others. Do try to keep up.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...&postcount=109

Andy Reid should have won the SB in 2004. The Eagles suspected after the game that the Pats were stealing signals.

Let's look at this another way. Do you think if you dug up 1980s Bill Walsh and put him as head coach of this years New England team they have more than 3 wins right now? What about Andy Reid? Joe Gibbs?

I think all 3 of those guys would have more than 3 wins with the current NE roster in today's NFL. You also cannot discount the fact that Belichick's teams have been through 2 cheating scandals.