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Mr. Krab 04-13-2009 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5665184)
You're a dick

That's pretty rich coming from the King of Assholeland.

Chiefnj2 04-13-2009 10:58 AM

Why do the drafturbators act like insecure women? They are all catty and defensive all the time.

Reaper16 04-13-2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5664919)
One scout had an interesting take last year that I want to share with all of you about the draft process. He said, “The way we draft is what do we need and who on the board at the time we pick fits a need the best. For example, Calvin Johnson was the best player in the draft on our board last year but had we been Detroit we wouldn’t have taken him. With the huge needs at offensive tackle and middle backer, we would have taken Joe Thomas or Patrick Willis. Both had Pro Bowl seasons. Now some pundits would have said those guys would have been too high of picks for the money (and we would have tried trading down) but would the Lions have been better off with either those two than Calvin? I sure think so. We draft (and have been successful) at picking guys that meet needs with priority given to lineman if we have a need there. I based my list on who best fits needs.”

Well, we can completely discount the rankings from one of the scouts. I guarantee this guy works for one of this shitty franchises in the NFL. This is not a Colts or Steelers employee, no way.

ChiefsCountry 04-13-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5665213)
Why do the drafturbators act like insecure women? They are all catty and defensive all the time.

Thats funny considering you are using a term from one of the biggest dumbasses on the planet.

Reaper16 04-13-2009 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5665144)
I think they scouted them they just don't see them as top 20 prspects.



PhilFree:arrow:

That report on Sanchez is so dumb. "Equal talent" my ass.

htismaqe 04-13-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5665094)
Imagine an NFL scout saying that Curry can play all the LB possition in a 4-3 or a 3-4 defense. I know, I know people on the chiefs planet who live in there parents basements know better.


PhilFree:arrow:

I don't doubt that they'll say it. But it's not their money that the Chiefs would be gambling with, now is it?

How many of the people that are against drafting Curry have said ANYTHING definitive about him? The answer is nobody. He COULD play any of the LB positions. And he COULD cure AIDS tomorrow. Without any historical evidence to support it, other than his workouts, it's not a gamble some of us are willing to take.

That doesn't say anything about what we think he can or can't do in the future. It's about getting value out of the #3 overall pick.

philfree 04-13-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5665217)
I don't doubt that they'll say it. But it's not their money that the Chiefs would be gambling with, now is it?

How many of the people that are against drafting Curry have said ANYTHING definitive about him? The answer is nobody. He COULD play any of the LB positions. And he COULD cure AIDS tomorrow. Without any historical evidence to support it, other than his workouts, it's not a gamble some of us are willing to take.

That doesn't say anything about what we think he can or can't do in the future. It's about getting value out of the #3 overall pick.


Who's the better value again in the 2009 draft?


PhilFree:arrow:

OnTheWarpath15 04-13-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5665217)
I don't doubt that they'll say it. But it's not their money that the Chiefs would be gambling with, now is it?

How many of the people that are against drafting Curry have said ANYTHING definitive about him? The answer is nobody. He COULD play any of the LB positions. And he COULD cure AIDS tomorrow. Without any historical evidence to support it, other than his workouts, it's not a gamble some of us are willing to take.

That doesn't say anything about what we think he can or can't do in the future. It's about getting value out of the #3 overall pick.

But FOUR unnamed scouts out of hundreds said it.

That MUST carry some weight, right?

Chiefnj2 04-13-2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5665226)
But FOUR unnamed scouts out of hundreds said it.

That MUST carry some weight, right?

translated:

hisss, someone prettier walked into the room.

melbar 04-13-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5665085)
Thanks Chiefnj, that's the kind of stuff I come to Chiefs Planet for. Makes me wonder if we're are misjudging Orakpo because he plays at Texas. Although it was mentioned I think he just moved up my draft board so to speak.


PhilFree:arrow:

Same here. MY concern with Orakpo is injury. He seems to always have some little nicks etc as is the case useually with the "gym rats". I Dont get that he's a Gholston though.

htismaqe 04-13-2009 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5665225)
Who's the better value again in the 2009 draft?


PhilFree:arrow:

I want to trade down, but since I know you're going to introduce the "we can't trade down" hypothetical like always, I'll play.

Sanchez and Stafford for sure.

I've also moved Raji out and replace him with Crabtree. So there's 3 I'd take before Curry.

Reaper16 04-13-2009 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by melbar (Post 5665247)
Same here. MY concern with Orakpo is injury. He seems to always have some little nicks etc as is the case useually with the "gym rats". I Dont get that he's a Gholston though.

Nobody knows what Gholston is in the first place. He was grossly misused last year, much like Glenn Dorsey was.

DaneMcCloud 04-13-2009 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5665209)
That's pretty rich coming from the King of Assholeland.

**** you, n00b.

Everyone knows I'm an asshole.

I only found out recently that Phil was a dick.

melbar 04-13-2009 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 5665217)
I don't doubt that they'll say it. But it's not their money that the Chiefs would be gambling with, now is it?

How many of the people that are against drafting Curry have said ANYTHING definitive about him? The answer is nobody. He COULD play any of the LB positions. And he COULD cure AIDS tomorrow. Without any historical evidence to support it, other than his workouts, it's not a gamble some of us are willing to take.

That doesn't say anything about what we think he can or can't do in the future. It's about getting value out of the #3 overall pick.

I think the point most of us have made is that the value has to be measured against the other players in THIS draft. I get the concern about rushing, but again if you watch the tape most of the time he was double teamed and they ran away from him. We need a rusher, but the questions with the few 1st round rushers are more numerous where as Curry is pretty solid in every aspect and you're just not sure about 1 phase.

melbar 04-13-2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 5665258)
Nobody knows what Gholston is in the first place. He was grossly misused last year, much like Glenn Dorsey was.

I'm not gonna disagree. I hope he does well and improves. Thats not to say that he doesnt share a lot of that blame. Ryan said that he still has motivational issues. I still dont think he was a better pick than Ryan, Long, Long, or Dorsey last year. You just dont take a player who has lazy lapses on the field that high. He certainly has the talent though.


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