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oaklandhater 10-23-2015 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11827196)
That's the core problem. We need better QB play. But there are maybe 5-7 QBs in NFL history that can make the current team a legit contender. Even then, legit contender to SB participant or even champion is a roll of the dice.

We have many holes and everyone is obsessed with filling one.

I think most people agree with this but QB is the number one issue we should be trying to fix next year.

Brock 10-23-2015 11:37 AM

People made excuses for cassel too, until they no longer could

oaklandhater 10-23-2015 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 11827212)
People made excuses for cassel too, until they no longer could

Cassel had a much longer leash then smith does because Charlie Weis made him look like a top 15 QB in 2010 such a Red herring year.

Beef Supreme 10-23-2015 11:41 AM

So we are expected to wait until AFTER 2016 to see less of Alex Smith?

This is one reason we also need a new coach. Give me a coach who will say **** the dead money and bench his ass.

RealSNR 10-23-2015 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11827169)
And our defense is a bunch of talented pretenders.

Like I've said, the Allen Iversons of the NFL.

People talking about 'better QB play has us with 2 more wins' answer honestly. Do you trust this defense to go into a 12-10 victory like the greatest show on turf faced in the playoffs against the Bucs in 1999?

With a better scheme and defensive coordinator, yes I do. Facing a pedestrian offense led by Sean ****ing King? 10 points? With this defensive line as the core? No problem.

We need some adjustments at LB. DJ and Hali are washed up and the other LB spot is... well... it exists, I guess. But Marcus Peters just needs some time to develop as a pro, and we've pretty much nailed the secondary.

If we hired Wade Phillips this offseason, our defense wouldn't be giving up 30 points per game, I can guarantee that.

90% of the mistakes being made on offense are because Alex does something wrong. The plays aren't very good to begin with, but we won 11 and 9 games the last two seasons with an inferior cast of receiving options and that same ****ing playbook.

Just look at Alex. Use the eye test. He's not efficient like he was those past two seasons. He's waaay more jittery. More indecisive. Doesn't run around as much.

He's done. Stick a fork in him. This season of his reminds me of when Jake Delhomme was cruising along doing his game manager thing, and even had a very successful 2009 season. Then 2010 hit and he just CRASHED. ****ing bottomed out. That was it. He couldn't do ANYTHING right. He was totally done.

That's Alex's season right here. You can tell. He's done as an NFL pro. Next stop is backing up Johnny Football in Cleveland. He's got ****ing NOTHING left.

TLO 10-23-2015 11:53 AM

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jerryforeverrice80 10-23-2015 11:54 AM

if i remember right thats when the 49ers had one of the best o-line in the game but i could be wrong.

RealSNR 10-23-2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11827187)
Maybe for you and many, but you are (deliberately?) overlooking three very important aspects.

1. bottom 5 pass pro OL
2. Andy's playcalls
3. bottom 10 defense giving up the lead in the last minutes for two games

Alex is not good enough to save a team with these problems. I think maybe 5 QBs are good enough, but we can't have them.

#1 and #2 are the SAME ****ING THING he had the past two seasons.

The defensive woes are also inexplicable considering the vast improvement on the defensive line. I don't see it as being ALL 100% on slowdowns by Hali and Johnson. Definitely miscues in the secondary and a lack of depth after Gaines went down, but honestly, you can't EXPECT a team to go 4 and 5 deep at CB where the #4 and #5 guys play like #1 and #2 guys.

It's Alex. How can you not ****ing notice his awful play this year and how he brings the entire offense down? Just ****ing LOOK AT HIM

O.city 10-23-2015 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11827247)
With a better scheme and defensive coordinator, yes I do. Facing a pedestrian offense led by Sean ****ing King? 10 points? With this defensive line as the core? No problem.

We need some adjustments at LB. DJ and Hali are washed up and the other LB spot is... well... it exists, I guess. But Marcus Peters just needs some time to develop as a pro, and we've pretty much nailed the secondary.

If we hired Wade Phillips this offseason, our defense wouldn't be giving up 30 points per game, I can guarantee that.

90% of the mistakes being made on offense are because Alex does something wrong. The plays aren't very good to begin with, but we won 11 and 9 games the last two seasons with an inferior cast of receiving options and that same ****ing playbook.

Just look at Alex. Use the eye test. He's not efficient like he was those past two seasons. He's waaay more jittery. More indecisive. Doesn't run around as much.

He's done. Stick a fork in him. This season of his reminds me of when Jake Delhomme was cruising along doing his game manager thing, and even had a very successful 2009 season. Then 2010 hit and he just CRASHED. ****ing bottomed out. That was it. He couldn't do ANYTHING right. He was totally done.

That's Alex's season right here. You can tell. He's done as an NFL pro. Next stop is backing up Johnny Football in Cleveland. He's got ****ing NOTHING left.

I love you

And fwiw, I kinda like how ramik has played. If March turns out to be any good, I'd be ready to let dj walk and see what happens.

oaklandhater 10-23-2015 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 11827226)
So we are expected to wait until AFTER 2016 to see less of Alex Smith?

This is one reason we also need a new coach. Give me a coach who will say **** the dead money and bench his ass.

We are the 2014 Texans with Schaub.

We can bench smith at the start of next season but we might find some one stupid enough to trade a 5th or a 6th for Smith.

KC_Lee 10-23-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 11827260)
We are the 2014 Texans with Schaub.

We can bench smith at the start of next season but we might find some one stupid enough to trade a 5th or a 6th for Smith.

Swap 7th round picks with someone else (either up or down) and toss in Smith. Problem solved.

RealSNR 10-23-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11827258)
I love you

And fwiw, I kinda like how ramik has played. If March turns out to be any good, I'd be ready to let dj walk and see what happens.

<3

oaklandhater 10-23-2015 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11827258)
I love you

And fwiw, I kinda like how ramik has played. If March turns out to be any good, I'd be ready to let dj walk and see what happens.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/archi.../t-292271.html

I was happy we drafted ramik :)

suzzer99 10-23-2015 11:58 AM

Smith has obviously lost his own confidence and his team's confidence. He's just playing out the string now - like Cassel was. We'd be better off getting Murray or Daniels reps. The idea of going into next season with Smith at the helm is vomitous.

The Denver game broke the team's confidence in themselves. Then the next couple games solidified everyone's lack of confidence in Smith.

oaklandhater 10-23-2015 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 11827272)
Smith has obviously lost his own confidence and his team's confidence. He's just playing out the string now - like Cassel was. We'd be better off getting Murray or Daniels reps. The idea of going into next season with Smith at the helm is vomitous.

The Denver game broke the team's confidence in themselves. Then the next couple games solidified everyone's lack of confidence in Smith.

That confidence is never coming back with smith behind center and Reid holding the clipboard 1-15 needs to get us a new QB and a HC.


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