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RustShack 11-24-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 5245290)
Granted stats don't tell the whole story but...

Year One
Sapp 26 Tackles 3 sacks
Haynesworth 30 tackles 1 sack

Dorsey 30 tackles 1 sack with 5 games to go.

OMG! Hes already as good as Haynesworth with five games left! Bust!

OnTheWarpath15 11-24-2008 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 5245290)
Granted stats don't tell the whole story but...

Year One
Sapp 26 Tackles 3 sacks
Haynesworth 30 tackles 1 sack

Dorsey 30 tackles 1 sack with 5 games to go.

I'd be interested to know who the 3 starting DLmen around those two players were as well.

ChiefsCountry 11-24-2008 11:25 AM

When Buffalo had the early drive in the game when they got down to goalline and we stuffed them the first 3 times - Dorsey and Tank were blowing shit up.

RedThat 11-24-2008 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5245286)
Can you strain your mind a bit and go look at how other highly drafted rookie defensive linemen have performed as rookies? Or is that too difficult? He might be Ryan Sims or he might be Warren Sapp. It's stupid to throw him on the trash heap like you're doing at this point.

I believe in improvement as the season goes on. Is he showing it this year as the season goes? no.

They drafted him to be the centerpiece of the Dline, and the Dline is the worst Ive seen it. Not only the worst but the possibly the worst ever? That says enough right there.

RustShack 11-24-2008 11:25 AM

Seriously, people who don't understand how things in the NFL work shouldn't be aloud to create threads.

ChiefsCountry 11-24-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5245297)
Seriously, people who don't understand how things in the NFL work shouldn't be aloud to create threads.

We would have about 10 to 15 people making football threads then.

Brock 11-24-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5245296)
I believe in improvement as the season goes on. Is he showing it this year as the season goes? no.

They drafted him to be the centerpiece of the Dline, and the Dline is the worst Ive seen it. Not only the worst but the possibly the worst ever? That says enough right there.

I don't think you're qualified to judge his progress.

Micjones 11-24-2008 11:27 AM

It generally takes 3 years for even the best DT's to play to their skill level.

RustShack 11-24-2008 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5245299)
We would have about 10 to 15 people making football threads then.

shit, I don't know if its even that high :)

FringeNC 11-24-2008 11:28 AM

It's too early to call Dorsey a bust, but how many of Dorsey's supporters would still want to pick him if we could go back in time?

If we put Albert and Dorsey on the trading block, I'm fairly confident Albert would fetch more.

Red Dawg 11-24-2008 11:29 AM

No way to tell on Dorsey yet. Rookies have to be given a season to adjust.

Chiefnj2 11-24-2008 11:30 AM

It's too early to declare him a bust. It isn't too early to say he sucks right now.

RedThat 11-24-2008 11:33 AM

For all who say it takes time,

then how do you explain the play of thigpen? hes a qb..but ive heard qb needs time too...how do you explain Flowers? he's a CB...but yet i hear CBs need time too...how do you explain Jared Allen? when he got playing time early in his career, he was getting sacks and blowing plays up...and became allpro in his 3rd, 4th year.

yeah ok Dorsey is a rookie, but he is getting owned 90% of the time he out there. Not even close to doing well. yeah he showed some flashes of blowing plays up...at the rate he is going, i dont see significant progress...he is at best looking like he could be an average player and thats being nice.

RedThat 11-24-2008 11:34 AM

People were saying the same thing about Hali in his rookie year...now what?

Oh yeah give him time he'll be ok

pr_capone 11-24-2008 11:34 AM

I bet you also wanted to shitcan TonyG back in his rookie year because he had trouble catching the ball and was not all that good of a blocker either, right?

Give the kid time.

He has almost no help on the D-Line so the O-Line is free to focus on him.

He could be triple teamed and we still could sack a QB.


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