I can't disagree.

If you value your pick against the other players in THIS draft, then you've already diminished the value of YOUR player.

"Well, he's not great, but he's better than the rest of this heap."

Better than "bad" does not equal "good".

This was the compilation of the 4 scouts last year:

1. Jake Long OT UM Drafted 1st.
2. Chris Long DE Virginia drafted 2nd
3. Glen Dorsey DT LSU Drafted 5th
4. Darren McFadden RB ARK Drafted 4th
5. Vernon Gholston DE OSU Drafted 6th
6. Aqib Talib CB Kansas Drafted 20th
7. Sedrick Ellis DT USC Drafted 7th
8. Branden Albert OL Virginia Drafted 15th
9. Derrick Harvey DE Florida Drafted 8th
10. Ryan Clady OT Boise State Drafted 12th.
11. Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt Drafted 14th
12. Rashard Mendenhall RB ILL Drafted 23rd
13. Leodis McKelvin DB Troy Drafted 11th
14. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tennessee State Drafted 16th
15. Phillip Merling DE Clemson Drafted 32nd
16. Devin Thomas WR Michigan State Drafted 34th
17. Jerod Mayo LB Tennessee Drafted 10th
18. Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh Drafted 19th
19. Mike Jenkins CB South Florida Drafted 25th
20. Matt Ryan QB BC Taken 3rd.

16 were taken in the top 20.
2 between 20 and 25.
2 came in at 32nd, 34th.

And why's that? BECAUSE SANCHEZ SUCKS!!!!!!

Apparently Jason Smith and Eugene Monroe are football players. Interesting analysis.

I've posted I'd like to trade down too but if that don't work out then we'll be picking at #3. The bolded part is a fair answer. It scares me paying that much guaranteed money to a guy who just had a screw put in his foot. I like Crabtree though. Of course you know how I feel about Sanchex and since we have Cassel I don't see us taking Stafford. Those guys are good trade bait though. No Raji at #3 either. To me if we can't trade down it's Curry. And I'd really like to trade down. But if we can't I think Curry will be a very good player and he has the upside of being great. I'm also really intrigued with Andre Smith as a RT prospect even though he'd be high dollar for that position. And then there's Orakpo. Who ever we pick I'l try and be open minded about it.

PhilFree:arrow:

I'd like a more in depth explanation of that. I want to be sure I understand what you are saying and what the value of the players in the 2009 draft are measured to.


PhilFree:arrow:

I guess I'd rather have Curry over Orakpo (he's got bust written all over him) or another LT (I don't want to move Albert for any reason). But that's about it. I'd be inclined to take SIGNIFCANTLY less than draft chart value to trade down at this point, that's how much the top of this draft means to me.

Now this I can agree with.

They HAVE to be measured to all of the drafts that preceeded them, or at least the most recent drafts that reflect the latest historical trends.

I don't think one can just ignore the actual players in the draft to make their selection. We'll find out soon enough but there's a good chance that Curry is picked in the top five of this draft. You don't think there is a chance that Curry will go in the top five? There's a pretty good chance that what happens in the top of this draft won't immulate history to a "T".


PhilFree:arrow:

I'm not suggesting anything of the sort. I'm only saying that you have to evaluate them compared to not only this draft, but previous drafts as well. If the most physically talented player in this draft were a TE or FB, would you take them in the Top 5? Because that's precisely what is being talked about here.

I absolutely think some team will be taking him Top 5. And 4 years from now, the fans will be bitching about it, just like DJ.

I'd hope so, I mean I'd hope I wasn't drafting a chimney sweep.

And that Calvin Johnson, Joe Thomas, Pat Willis thing is mind numbing. If that guy really thinks that he's a dolt.

A LOT isn't more valuable than a WR?

Depends on the WR...Calvin Johnson no, Calvin Johnson is a once in 20 years type of prospect.

If you haven't noticed the LT position is seeing alot of top prospects every year now.

I agree with Mecca on this one. Calvin Johnson is the sort of WR i've never seen. I mean 239 AND runs under 4.4? That's sick.

He's also got rare agility for a guy his size. To put this in perspective, CJ is 239 and Shannon Sharpe went 228.