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htismaqe 09-15-2004 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr
I guess Tait is going to be missed more than we thought. : :shake:

Go watch last year's game at Mile High. Welbourn struggled, but nobody should be missing Taint.

TRR 09-15-2004 10:11 AM

Dumb idea.

You just plug and play. Bottom line. Why plug two holes when you can just plug one? You move Shields to RT where he hasn't played in how many years? Literally...How many years? So Shields, the best Guard in the NFL IMO is now trying to learn a new position just like Welbourn is.

Then you've got Welbourn, who's spent all camp at RT, learning another new position in RG (He played LG for his entire career other than RT).

Why plug two holes when you can just plug one? Welbourn will come around.

Mr. Laz 09-15-2004 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR
Dumb idea.

You just plug and play. Bottom line. Why plug two holes when you can just plug one? You move Shields to RT where he hasn't played in how many years? Literally...How many years? So Shields, the best Guard in the NFL IMO is now trying to learn a new position just like Welbourn is.

Then you've got Welbourn, who's spent all camp at RT, learning another new position in RG (He played LG for his entire career other than RT).

Why plug two holes when you can just plug one? Welbourn will come around.


i disagree...

your ignoring the fact that both players have already played the other position.

shields HAS played OT before ... and welbourn HAS played more guard than OT.


i dont think we should make a change now.... but that switch should of been made from the very beginning.

Shields quick feet and great technique would serve us really well out at right tackle.

Welbourn's power and aggressive attitude would be great inside and pulling to flatten LB's and Secondary personnel.


hopefully Welbourn will continue to develope and we will be ok... but IMO it was a mistake to not make that move when we first traded for Welbourn

HC_Chief 09-15-2004 11:06 AM

Not yet. He had a couple of penalties and allowed pressure on a couple of plays. Not a great game, but certainly not as bad as many made it out to be.

Cormac 09-15-2004 11:41 AM

A lot of people have raved over how well Welbourn is doing in the running game. So his only problem is pass-blocking, right? If we move Shields to RT, then our running game will surely suffer. No matter how talented Shields is, or how much he has played OT before, he hasn't ever played RT in our system. With all the pulling our linemen do, it would be a terrible move to switch Shields to RT. It would cause a lot of confusion that can be avoided if we just give Welbourn the benefit of the doubt, give him some time to get used to the position (again) and strengthen his knee. If all else fails, we do what other teams would likely do in this scenario:

(1) Use somebody else (Bober or even Sampson (not that he's likely to be an upgrade))

or

(2) Line up Jason Dunn to his outside to help

Are these not better options than moving one of the league's best O-linemen???

BigChiefFan 09-15-2004 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cormac
A lot of people have raved over how well Welbourn is doing in the running game. So his only problem is pass-blocking, right? If we move Shields to RT, then our running game will surely suffer. No matter how talented Shields is, or how much he has played OT before, he hasn't ever played RT in our system. With all the pulling our linemen do, it would be a terrible move to switch Shields to RT. It would cause a lot of confusion that can be avoided if we just give Welbourn the benefit of the doubt, give him some time to get used to the position (again) and strengthen his knee. If all else fails, we do what other teams would likely do in this scenario:

(1) Use somebody else (Bober or even Sampson (not that he's likely to be an upgrade))

or

(2) Line up Jason Dunn to his outside to help

Are these not better options than moving one of the league's best O-linemen???

If Shields is one of the best O-lineman in the league(your words) and he has excelled at LT, then wouldn't moving one of the best O-lineman in the league to his natural side make sense? I'm not saying we should do this now, but if Welby continues to struggle I would definitely consider this move.

htismaqe 09-15-2004 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief
Not yet. He had a couple of penalties and allowed pressure on a couple of plays. Not a great game, but certainly not as bad as many made it out to be.

:toast:

htismaqe 09-15-2004 12:15 PM

Don't move people. That's why we paid almost $2M to Jason Dunn. Line him up next to Welbourn and be done with it.


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