Why not move Shields to RT and Welby to RG?

BigChiefFan · 09-14-2004, 12:08 PM

Just a thought, but Shields did a very good job when he played LT, he already plays the right side so convential wisdom says he might be even better as a RT compared to LT. Welbourne has taken the majority of his regular season snaps as a guard, so why not try it? IMO, it couldn't hurt because Welby is struggling as the RT. Thoughts?

booger · 09-14-2004, 12:30 PM

Nope.

We do alot of pulling with all of our lineman especially guards, and Shields is one of the best at what he does. Either Welbourn will get it or Bober will get some reps at RT.

**morphius** · 09-14-2004, 12:31 PM

I have been wondering the same thing all offseason honestly. The only thing I can think of is because he might not have the reach they want, but I don't know.

TRR · 09-14-2004, 12:34 PM

Sorry to be so blunt, but that is a very dumb idea. How many years has Shields been playing RG? Talk about srewing up a consistent thing.

You don't move lineman around. You find a spot for them, and that's where they play. Roaf, Waters, Wieigmann, and Shields are all cemented and used to each other. Don't move them around.

Like someone said earlier, Welbourn (no E at the end) will pick it up in the passing game, or Bober will step in.

**Skip Towne** · 09-14-2004, 12:35 PM

You'll need to clear this move with DV.

Hoover · 09-14-2004, 12:41 PM

yeah, we are a running team and i wouldn't mess with the inside of the line. Welbourn can run block like a champ, I'm going to give him a few more starts before I go all crazy about it.

TRR · 09-14-2004, 12:42 PM

Your right on Hoover. John Welbourn can run block as good or better than anyone on our O Line. He is downright dominate in the running game.

**morphius** · 09-14-2004, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Sorry to be so blunt, but that is a very dumb idea. How many years has Shields been playing RG? Talk about srewing up a consistent thing.

You don't move lineman around. You find a spot for them, and that's where they play. Roaf, Waters, Wieigmann, and Shields are all cemented and used to each other. Don't move them around.

Like someone said earlier, Welbourn (no E at the end) will pick it up in the passing game, or Bober will step in.

Wasn't Welborn a guard?

Otter · 09-14-2004, 12:56 PM

When Chiefs acquired Welbourne I asked alot of people about him (I live in Eagles Hell) and they said he's a good RT but has a tendency to jump off sides during the big plays.

Let's not give up on him after one game.

htismaqe · 09-14-2004, 12:57 PM

It's not necessary. Welbourn will get to where we need him to be.

His blocking simply wasn't that bad against Denver. It was his penalties that killed us. Those won't happen at home.

Mr. Laz · 09-14-2004, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius

Wasn't Welborn a guard?

yes....

and yes, we should of put Welborn at guard and shields at right tackle from the very beginning on the year. i figured that the chiefs were going to do that and said as much back when they made the trade.

but now it's too late ... you dont wanna jack around with a bunch of offensive line moves during the season.

Cormac · 09-14-2004, 01:02 PM

Welbourn should be worked into our line. It would be a big mistake to make any other changes to the other 4 guys to compensate, IMO. Shields might make a great RT, but he's better at RG. No doubt about it.

Besides, Welbourn has only had 1 game, and is coming off knee surgery. He'll improve rapidly IMO, and be even better next year. The biggest mistakes he made the other day were penalties. We probably won't see him make any at home without the crowd noise on offense. JMHO.

**morphius** · 09-14-2004, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

yes....

and yes, we should of put Welborn at guard and shields at right tackle from the very beginning on the year. i figured that the chiefs were going to do that and said as much back when they made the trade.

but now it's too late ... you dont wanna jack around with a bunch of offensive line moves during the season.

Thats pretty much how I feel as well.

TRR · 09-14-2004, 01:12 PM

Why would you move Shields from his RG spot? It doesn't make any sense what so ever. None. Why mess with any of our 4 O Lineman already in place? It makes zero sense.

Welbourn has played both LG and RT in his career, more so LG. But he was eager to make the move to RT to become a starter. You don't shift an offensive line around that's been solid the past three seasons. It makes no sense.

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09-14-2004, 12:34 PM	#4
TRR The Priest and I Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO Casino cash: $9420185	Sorry to be so blunt, but that is a very dumb idea. How many years has Shields been playing RG? Talk about srewing up a consistent thing. You don't move lineman around. You find a spot for them, and that's where they play. Roaf, Waters, Wieigmann, and Shields are all cemented and used to each other. Don't move them around. Like someone said earlier, Welbourn (no E at the end) will pick it up in the passing game, or Bober will step in.
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Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2211821	yeah, we are a running team and i wouldn't mess with the inside of the line. Welbourn can run block like a champ, I'm going to give him a few more starts before I go all crazy about it.
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TRR The Priest and I Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO Casino cash: $9420185	Your right on Hoover. John Welbourn can run block as good or better than anyone on our O Line. He is downright dominate in the running game.
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8079900	It's not necessary. Welbourn will get to where we need him to be. His blocking simply wasn't that bad against Denver. It was his penalties that killed us. Those won't happen at home.
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Cormac Haley sceptic.... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: waiting it out....... Casino cash: $10004900	Welbourn should be worked into our line. It would be a big mistake to make any other changes to the other 4 guys to compensate, IMO. Shields might make a great RT, but he's better at RG. No doubt about it. Besides, Welbourn has only had 1 game, and is coming off knee surgery. He'll improve rapidly IMO, and be even better next year. The biggest mistakes he made the other day were penalties. We probably won't see him make any at home without the crowd noise on offense. JMHO.
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TRR The Priest and I Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO Casino cash: $9420185	Why would you move Shields from his RG spot? It doesn't make any sense what so ever. None. Why mess with any of our 4 O Lineman already in place? It makes zero sense. Welbourn has played both LG and RT in his career, more so LG. But he was eager to make the move to RT to become a starter. You don't shift an offensive line around that's been solid the past three seasons. It makes no sense.
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