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Buck 04-27-2009 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gcbroncos (Post 5718320)
if you want to say Denver overpaid for their picks, fair enough, and i am inclined to agree...

but anyone that actually has knowledge of the NFL draft pool cannot deny that Denver added a lot of good football players...and that's never a bad thing...

Knowshon Moreno is almost unaminously considered the best back in the draft...

Robert Ayers can play the run and the pass standing up or down on the line...

Alphonso Smith is the best playmaking corner in the draft...but we clearly overpaid for him...

i could go on but we added 10 players...

Both Todd McShay and Mike Mayock both say that Denver added a tremendous amount of talent to their team...i agree, but we did pay a high price for them...

I don't know why, but Robert Ayers just smells of Bust to me.

I guess we'll have to see. You guys might have wanted to keep both your first round picks for next year so you could trade up and take Bradford though, now I doubt you will be able to.

King_Chief_Fan 04-27-2009 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gcbroncos (Post 5718320)
if you want to say Denver overpaid for their picks, fair enough, and i am inclined to agree...

but anyone that actually has knowledge of the NFL draft pool cannot deny that Denver added a lot of good football players...and that's never a bad thing...

Knowshon Moreno is almost unaminously considered the best back in the draft...

Robert Ayers can play the run and the pass standing up or down on the line...

Alphonso Smith is the best playmaking corner in the draft...but we clearly overpaid for him...

i could go on but we added 10 players...

Both Todd McShay and Mike Mayock both say that Denver added a tremendous amount of talent to their team...i agree, but we did pay a high price for them...

I don't think there is really anything to argue. Donks finally had a good draft. The loss of Shanahan wound should be healing nicely.

Sure-Oz 04-27-2009 09:16 AM

Darius heyward-bay looked like he was about to cry when it showed him being picked by the raiders he has no chance

Quesadilla Joe 04-27-2009 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5717181)
I'm not sure any of them are good...the Broncos and Raiders are abysmal however.

Mike Mayock had Ayers and Moreno as the best players at their position. They could be the best offensive and defensive players to come out of this draft.

Mayock also said that Alphonso Smith would have been a top 10 pick if he was 2 inches taller.

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2009 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cutler7624 (Post 5718356)
Mike Mayock had Ayers and Moreno as the best players at their position. They could be the best offensive and defensive players to come out of this draft.

Mayock also said that if Alphonso Smith would have been a top 10 pick if he was 2 inches taller.

But he's not, and he gets he pleasure of facing WR's that are half a foot taller than him 2 times a year in Bowe, Chambers and Jackson.

Denver definitely added talent, but at an insane cost.

Quesadilla Joe 04-27-2009 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5718366)
But he's not, and he gets he pleasure of facing WR's that are half a foot taller than him 2 times a year in Bowe, Chambers and Jackson.

Denver definitely added talent, but at an insane cost.

If we are in man to man I'm sure that Champ would be covering Bowe or Chambers. I think we will be running a lot of zone coverage though and Alphonso is good at that.

gcbroncos 04-27-2009 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5718366)
But he's not, and he gets he pleasure of facing WR's that are half a foot taller than him 2 times a year in Bowe, Chambers and Jackson.

Denver definitely added talent, but at an insane cost.

i agree...

i try and think glass half full though...Antoine Winfield is 5"9 and he's Pro Bowl calibur...

he is short, but he has freakish leaping ability...

we'll see...

gcbroncos 04-27-2009 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MediaCenterJunkie (Post 5718333)
I don't know why, but Robert Ayers just smells of Bust to me.

I guess we'll have to see. You guys might have wanted to keep both your first round picks for next year so you could trade up and take Bradford though, now I doubt you will be able to.

i can see why you'd think that...Ayers only had 1 good year (his senior year)...

Mike Mayock believes Ayers is the best defensive player in the entire draft...that i'm not sure of but his game tape looks impressive...

as for getting a QB like Bradford, again you're right...i am in the minority, but i am a believer in Kyle Orton...i don't think QB will be a problem for us at all...Orton will do what McDaniels wants in his offense...

King_Chief_Fan 04-27-2009 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5718366)
But he's not, and he gets he pleasure of facing WR's that are half a foot taller than him 2 times a year in Bowe, Chambers and Jackson.

Denver definitely added talent, but at an insane cost.

indeed. That next year's first round could have helped them get the QB they need. Orton and Simms aren't going to cut if for long.

Quesadilla Joe 04-29-2009 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5718366)
But he's not, and he gets he pleasure of facing WR's that are half a foot taller than him 2 times a year in Bowe, Chambers and Jackson.


How did this 5'9'' corner turn out for you guys?
http://i40.tinypic.com/mjvibd.jpg

Mile High Mania 04-29-2009 09:12 AM

The price was steep, but if the guy can play and becomes a solid starter - he's worth it.

Many thought he would go late in R1, so if he was the highest rated guy on their board... why not make the trade? Sure, they gave up a 2010 R1 to get him, but I won't worry about it if the guy can play. They think he can, so we'll find out.

Regarding Bradford... again, I won't worry about the next potentially great QBs in the draft.

Orton has been an average (at worst) QB in a system that loves to run... now he's in a system that loves to pass and now has what should be a top flight RB option. We'll see how the defense comes along, but Orton could be consistently a top 12 type of performer with the weapons they have in McD's system.

Quesadilla Joe 04-29-2009 03:14 PM

http://walterfootball.com/nflpowerrankings.php
31. Kansas City Chiefs (2-14) - Previously: 30
Let's take a look at what I wrote last time:

The Chiefs began the offseason by switching to the 3-4, even though Glenn Dorsey and Tamba Hali, two of the few promising players on the defense, don't fit into the new scheme. A few weeks ago, Kansas City traded for a shotgun-spread system quarterback even though it had one already. And recently, the Chiefs held a press conference to announce that they had signed Bobby Engram. Yeah, this offseason is going great so far.

Oh, man... Pioli eschewed the top defensive player in the draft for a guy ranked 9-12 on most boards. Pioli also ignored the pass rush and offensive line. It's apparent now more than ever that Pioli had nothing to do with New England's success all of these years. It should also come as no surprise that Bill Belichick drafted well despite not having Pioli around.

Jethopper 04-29-2009 04:54 PM

Tamba Hali is promising? That statement alone shows walterfootball's understanding of the game.


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