NFL Draft AFC West Drafts - Compare and Discuss

ChiefRon · 04-26-2009, 07:43 PM

Chiefs
Pick Player Pos Ht Wt College
Round 1, Pick 3 (3) Tyson Jackson DE 6'4" 295 LSU
Pick Analysis:The Chiefs pick up the best 3-4 defensive end on the board with their selection of Jackson. Though the pick was a bit of a surprise, Jackson gives the team a stout player on the edge capable of occupying multiple blockers at the point of attack.
Round 3, Pick 3 (67) Alex Magee DT 6'3" 298 Purdue
Pick Analysis:The former Boilermaker gives the Chiefs a versatile defender capable of playing inside or outside along the line. Magee has some pass-rushing ability and should contribute as a rotational player for the Chiefs as a rookie.
Round 4, Pick 2 (102) Donald Washington CB 6'0" 197 Ohio State
Pick Analysis:Washington is a tall corner but lacks exceptional speed. He came out a year early, plays well in coverage and had an outstanding three-cone time. He may have been better served to stay in school because he's unpolished in certain areas. He may struggle early until he learns the pro game.
Round 5, Pick 3 (139) Colin Brown OL 6'7" 335 Missouri
Pick Analysis:The Chiefs add a promising young tackle to their rotation with the selection of Brown. The former Tiger will provide quality depth for the team as a potential swing-tackle prospect.
Round 6, Pick 2 (175) Quinten Lawrence WR 6'0" 184 McNeese State
Pick Analysis:Lawrence is a speedy receiver who was very productive at McNeese State. He will provide the Chiefs with a vertical threat who can possibly develop into a contributor.
Round 7, Pick 3 (212) Javarris Williams RB 5'10" 223 Tennessee State
Pick Analysis:Williams is a two-year starter who has been productive at the smaller college level. He translates into more of a fullback at the NFL level and he could fill that role with the Chiefs.
Round 7, Pick 28 (237) (From Panthers through Dolphins) Jake O'Connell TE 6'4" 255 Miami (OHIO)
Pick Analysis:O'Connell has good speed and good catching ability. He's athletic and did very well in all the workouts and at his pro day. He'll help fill in for the Chiefs after the loss of Tony Gonzalez.
Round 7, Pick 47 (256) (Compensatory selection) Ryan Succop K 6'2" 218 South Carolina
Pick Analysis:Succop can handle both punting and kicking duties. He played extremely well at times for the Gamecocks. He could solve what has been a problem area for Kansas City in recent years in the kicking game.

Broncos
Pick Player Pos Ht Wt College
Round 1, Pick 12 (12) Knowshon Moreno RB 5'11" 217 Georgia
Pick Analysis:The Broncos eschew their defensive woes to pick the electrifying runner from Georgia. Moreno is a versatile back with outstanding quickness and elusiveness, and he gives the Broncos another weapon in the passing game with his exceptional hands and underrated route-running. With Josh McDaniels' preference for spread formations, Moreno could emerge as a playmaker in his first season.
Round 1, Pick 18 (18) (From Bears) Robert Ayers LB 6'3" 272 Tennessee
Pick Analysis:The former Vol is an athletic edge player with outstanding versatility. As a potential defensive end/outside linebacker, he's capable of stacking the run while also providing some pass-rushing skill off the edge. Though he has been pegged as a "one-year wonder," Ayers was playing the best football of his career at the end of his senior season, and he may continue his ascent as a rookie.
Round 2, Pick 5 (37) (From Seahawks) Alphonso Smith CB 5'9" 193 Wake Forest
Pick Analysis:The ultra-productive ballhawk gives the Broncos another cover corner with big-play ability. Though Smith lacks ideal size and speed, he has an outstanding feel for the game and is an ideal nickel corner in the Broncos' defense.
Round 2, Pick 16 (48) Darcel McBath CB 6'0" 198 Texas Tech
Pick Analysis:The former corner-turned-safety has outstanding range and instincts. Though he isn't polished in coverage, he gives the Broncos a safety capable of playing as their deep middle player. Along with their other additions on the day, the Broncos have added some youth and athleticism.
Round 2, Pick 32 (64) (From Steelers) Richard Quinn TE 6'4" 264 North Carolina
Pick Analysis:The Broncos bypass some intriguing tight end prospects to pick up Quinn. While he's regarded as one of the best in-line blockers at the position, Quinn tallied only 12 receptions in his career. With Daniel Graham and Tony Scheffler on the roster, Quinn will spend his initial season serving as an extra tight end in the Broncos' jumbo sets.
Round 4, Pick 14 (114) David Bruton FS 6'2" 219 Notre Dame
Pick Analysis:Bruton has great measurables but he is one of the biggest corners in this year's draft. Despite his impressive drill times, he does not appear as fluid on tape. To succeed in this league, he'll probably have to play in the box. There are also questions about his ball skills. He is the second defensive back the Broncos have selected as they try to improve what was a woeful secondary.
Round 4, Pick 32 (132) (From Steelers) Seth Olsen OG 6'5" 306 Iowa
Pick Analysis:When you draft an Iowa lineman, you know he's technically sound and has been well-coached. Olsen has great strength and can step in and play guard right away. He's similar to Marshal Yanda, who was drafted by Baltimore a couple years ago. He's got strong hands.
Round 5, Pick 5 (141) (From Browns through Eagles through Patriots and Ravens) Kenny McKinley WR 6'0" 189 South Carolina
Pick Analysis:The former Gamecock is a productive slot receiver with outstanding quickness. McKinley is a polished route-runner with good hands, and he'll give the Broncos another athletic receiver to add to their spread formations.
Round 6, Pick 1 (174) (From Lions) Tom Brandstater QB 6'5" 220 Fresno State
Pick Analysis:Brandstater is a big, strong quarterback. He's a good football player who was productive in college at Fresno State. He's got good speed and athleticism for his size and comes from a good college system. He gives Josh McDaniels a young signal-caller to develop over the years, like he did with Matt Cassel.
Round 7, Pick 16 (225) Blake Schlueter C 6'2" 290 TCU
Pick Analysis:Schlueter is a football player, plain and simple. He's very mature and has unbelievable quickness and agility as an offensive lineman. The question for him is whether or not he can keep his weight up. He had one of the best workouts at TCU of anyone in this year's draft.

Chargers
Pick Player Pos Ht Wt College
Round 1, Pick 16 (16) Larry English DE 6'2" 274 Northern Illinois
Pick Analysis:After watching their sack output drop significantly with Shawne Merriman injured, the Chargers add another pass rusher with English. The hard worker gives Ron Rivera a possible replacement for Merriman in the event of a rehab setback, and he gives the team three capable rushers in its 3-4 (Shaun Phillips, Merriman and English). With pass rushers at a premium, the Chargers made a wise choice.
Round 3, Pick 14 (78) Louis Vasquez OG 6'5" 333 Texas Tech
Pick Analysis:The Chargers find a potential replacement for Mike Goff with the selection of Vasquez. The former Red Raider lacks great athleticism, but he's a tough, physical blocker with the strength to move defenders off the ball.
Round 4, Pick 13 (113) Vaughn Martin DT 6'3" 331 Western Ontario (Canada)
Pick Analysis:Martin grew up in Canada and attended college north of the border. Nobody really knows the quality of his competition in college, but he had a great workout at Michigan's pro day. It's ironic that he wound up getting drafted before any Michigan player. He ran a 4.96 40 at 330 pounds and had 44 bench press reps. He gives the Chargers a 5-technique DE and has the bulk to be a nose tackle.
Round 4, Pick 33 (133) (Compensatory selection) Tyronne Green OG 6'2" 309 Auburn
Pick Analysis:Green is a tough guy who was a two-year starter in college. He's a former defensive tackle. He will need to push himself a little harder in the pros and ramp up his work ethic. He'll provide guard depth for the Chargers.
Round 4, Pick 34 (134) (Compensatory selection) Gartrell Johnson RB 5'10" 219 Colorado State
Pick Analysis:Johnson is a strong inside runner. He's a junior-college transfer who came to Colorado State as a tough runner inside the tackles. He had an outstanding bowl game against New Mexico. He's a short-yardage, goal-line rusher who will complement Darren Sproles and LaDainian Tomlinson in San Diego.
Round 5, Pick 12 (148) Brandon Hughes CB 5'10" 182 Oregon State
Pick Analysis:The Chargers add a hard-nosed corner with Hughes. The former Beaver is an aggressive corner with the skills to excel as a nickel corner for the team.
Round 6, Pick 16 (189) Kevin Ellison S 6'1" 227 Southern Cal
Pick Analysis:Ellison is a good, solid player who didn't run fast, and that hurt him. But he's still a really smart and instinctive player. Sometimes intelligent players who lack speed are able to read things better, and Ellison is one of those types of players. He works hard and loves the weight room and the film room.
Round 7, Pick 15 (224) Demetrius Byrd WR 6'0" 199 LSU
Pick Analysis:Byrd slid in the draft after being involved in an automobile accident just a week ago. He probably would've been drafted three rounds ago if he was healthy. He could be a developmental project for the future after he recovers from his injuries.

Raiders
Pick Player Pos Ht Wt College
Round 1, Pick 7 (7) Darrius Heyward-Bey WR 6'2" 210 Maryland
Pick Analysis:In a bit of a head-scratcher, the Raiders bypass Michael Crabtree and Jeremy Maclin to select Heyward-Bey. Although the former Maryland speedster recorded the best 40 time (4.30) at the combine, he is raw and unrefined as a receiver. He may eventually develop into a big-time weapon in the Raiders' offense, but he is a bit of a reach as a potential No. 1 receiver.
Round 2, Pick 15 (47) (From Chargers through Patriots) Mike Mitchell SS 6'0" 220 Ohio
Pick Analysis:The Raiders continue to place a premium on speed and athleticism over production. Although Mitchell was regarded as a second day pick in most war rooms, the Raiders nab the workout warrior with their second-round choice.
Round 3, Pick 7 (71) Matt Shaughnessy DE 6'5" 266 Wisconsin
Pick Analysis:The Raiders add another developmental prospect to their defensive line. Shaughnessy has excellent size and strength, but he isn't an explosive player off the edge.
Round 4, Pick 24 (124) (From Patriots) Louis Murphy WR 6'2" 203 Florida
Pick Analysis:Murphy had 77 receptions and a sub 4.4 time in the 40. He's a smooth route runner and projects as a solid No. 3 wideout. He's another speed player for the Raiders. They have Darrius Heyward-Bey for pure straight-line speed and Murphy gives them a good intermediate option. They are giving JaMarcus Russell some weapons. Russell has a big, strong arm and will thrown downfield to these guys.
Round 4, Pick 26 (126) (From Dolphins) Slade Norris DE 6'2" 232 Oregon State
Pick Analysis:Norris is a speed linebacker. He can play in space with his speed and he is another special teams demon. The Raiders have really built up their team speed in this draft.
Round 6, Pick 26 (199) (From Patriots) Stryker Sulak DE 6'5" 251 Missouri
Pick Analysis:Sulak had a lot of sacks in college and has a lot of speed. He is a hybrid-type player who lacks the size to play with his hand down full-time. He is a value pick and in the Raiders' 3-4 scheme, he will probably play strong-side linebacker.
Round 6, Pick 29 (202) (from Panthers) Brandon Myers TE 6'4" 250 Iowa
Pick Analysis:Myers is more of a blocking tight end. He serves as an extra lineman more than as a pass catcher. Iowa does a great job of developing run-blocking tight ends. Myers should help the Raiders' running game.

from nfl.com/draft

Basileus777 · 04-26-2009, 07:43 PM

Denver loses by default because of that horrifically bad Alphonso Smith trade.

PhillyChiefFan · 04-26-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

Denver loses by default because of that horrifically bad Alphonso Smith trade.

did they really trade next year's number 1 for Smith?!?!

chop · 04-26-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

did they really trade next year's number 1 for Smith?!?!

yes

Mecca · 04-26-2009, 08:54 PM

I'm not sure any of them are good...the Broncos and Raiders are abysmal however.

ChiefRon · 04-26-2009, 08:56 PM

FWIW, http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9...39;s-NFL-Draft

Denver
The Broncos filled some needs and found some parts, but the bottom line is that they are without quarterback Jay Cutler now, and they definitely didn't replace him. Georgia running back Knowshon Moreno was a no-brainer with the first choice, especially since San Diego coveted him. Tennessee defensive end Robert Ayers has the look of a Justin Tuck type; able to rush from an inside position or from the edge.

In the second round, new Broncos GM Brian Xanders went for secondary performers in Wake Forest CB Alphonso Smith, who has a chance to start, and Texas Tech safety Darcel McBath. South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier called Kenny McKinley the best receiver he's ever coached. McKinley started 33 consecutive games and finished with 207 receptions. He could be a steal. The Broncos are still talking about trading productive tight end Tony Scheffler, and that could be a mistake. Fresno State quarterback Tom Brandstater has an NFL arm and was a very interesting pick at No. 174. Grade: B

Kansas City
First-year Chiefs GM Scott Pioli didn't fool anyone with his choice of LSU defensive end Tyson Jackson, who figures to be a starter opposite former Tiger teammate Glenn Dorsey. Jackson also has the flexibility to slide inside when the Chiefs shift out of their 3-4 alignment.

Alex Magee of Purdue can also play inside and outside along the defensive line and supposedly can rush the passer. Magee was a value pick. Tennessee State running back Javarris Williams is 5-10, 223 pounds and scored a school-record 42 touchdowns over four seasons while rushing for 4,329 yards. Pioli nailed the Mr. Irrelevant pick, No. 256 and the final player in the draft, by choosing a kicker, Ryan Succop of South Carolina. Grade: B-

Oakland
Maybe all the experts are stupid, but the Raiders were ripped for their top three selections. NFL Network draft guru Mike Mayock had low-round grades on both Ohio safety Michael Mitchell and Wisconsin linebacker Matt Shaughnessy, who was slipping down most team's draft boards. Yes, the Raiders have a need at safety with the disappointing play of former No. 1 pick Michael Huff. Reportedly, the Bears wanted Mitchell in the second round and that's why they traded out of the round.

No. 1 pick Darrius Heyward-Bey may have been the fastest receiver in the draft, but he never had a 1,000-yard receiving season at Maryland and wasn't named to either the first or second all-ACC teams. Heyward-Bey was the first receiver taken by Davis since Tim Brown in 1988. The Raiders took another track-star receiver in Florida's Louis Murphy, who ran a 4.32 40-yard dash at the Combine. I think the only way owner Al Davis wins with the talking heads on television is by going out and either hiring Mayock or ESPN's Mel Kiper. Bottom line, the Raiders are 24-72 since losing to Tampa Bay in the 2003 Super Bowl, but that doesn't mean Al is going to change his ways. Grade: C-

San Diego
The selection of Northern Illinois pass rusher Larry English helps because of the loss of Igor Olshansky and with Shawne Merriman entering his final season contractually. It's difficult to argue with GM A.J. Smith, but a lot of teams ranked English as a second-round player. English, who started 47 games, had 31 1/2 career sacks and twice was named the best player in Mid-American Conference.

Colorado State running back Gartrell Johnson proved his worth with a 285-yard effort against Fresno State in the New Mexico Bowl game. Johnson led the Mountain West Conference with 113.5 yards per game. Grade: B-

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-26-2009, 08:57 PM

No different than how the season will play out.

Chargers

Broncos, Chiefs, Raiders.

ChiefRon · 04-26-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm not sure any of them are good...the Broncos and Raiders are abysmal however.

I think the Chargers had a pretty solid draft, but I agree with Broncos & Raiders, I can't believe Denver went 50/50 offense/defense

Mecca · 04-26-2009, 09:00 PM

That MSN grader is way to nice, I don't think any of them deserve B's except maybe the Chargers who had some nice value picks.

Chiefshrink · 04-26-2009, 09:23 PM

Pioli & Smith chose to address "the trenches". Pioli used 3 out of his first 4 picks and Smith used all first 4 picks to address both O and D lines. Rookie GM (McKid) chose otherwise using only 1 out of his first 4 picks. Why, is beyond me since Denver's D and KC's D are in the same boat converting to the 3/4 with no pass or rush D at all. And of these 3 teams it was McKid who could have really accelerated and improved the D immediately but it seems McKid thinks the D is OK.

It is absolutely hilarious out here in Donkey land listening to all the local sports commentators and fans about to take the "pitchforks and torches" to McDaniels.

ChiefRon · 04-26-2009, 09:27 PM

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It is absolutely hilarious out here in Donkey land listening to all the local sports commentators and fans about to take the "pitchforks and torches" to McDaniels.

Chiefshrink · 04-26-2009, 09:34 PM

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Precisely!! McKid really has put himself out on the limb so soon with this organization with all of his off-season moves for sure. After this W/E's draft his honeymoon is over and although I would have guessed a "pass" for this first yr I am now wondering if he gets a pass at all now.

ChiefRon · 04-26-2009, 09:35 PM

from yahoo sports

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...=tsn&type=lgns

Denver Broncos: A-minus
They should not have traded Cutler, but this was not a bad job. Running back Knowshon Moreno can run it and catch it, a nice fit for Josh McDaniels' offense. The next three picks—defensive end Robert Ayers, cornerback Alphonso Smith and safety Darcel McBath—should help a defense that sorely needs it.

Kansas City Chiefs: B-minus
It does not matter whether defensive end Tyson Jackson deserved to be the No. 3-overall pick. They got the player they wanted, and he fits their system. Defensive tackle Alex Magee and cornerback Donald Washington will add depth. And don't forget they traded for quarterback Matt Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel before the draft.

Oakland Raiders: D-minus
Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey best have a better NFL career than Crabtree. There is no logic in trading up to take safety Michael Mitchell. Bad teams cannot afford to make mistakes. The Raiders might have set themselves back.

San Diego Chargers: F
They took a chance grabbing outside linebacker Larry English at No. 16 when they could have taken Maualuga or Matthews. GM A.J. Smith has enjoyed great drafts. On paper, this does not look like one.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-26-2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Pioli & Smith chose to address "the trenches". Pioli used 3 out of his first 4 picks and Smith used all first 4 picks to address both O and D lines. Rookie GM (McKid) chose otherwise using only 1 out of his first 4 picks. Why, is beyond me since Denver's D and KC's D are in the same boat converting to the 3/4 with no pass or rush D at all. And of these 3 teams it was McKid who could have really accelerated and improved the D immediately but it seems McKid thinks the D is OK.

It is absolutely hilarious out here in Donkey land listening to all the local sports commentators and fans about to take the "pitchforks and torches" to McDaniels.

Pay up, bitch.

ChiefRon · 04-26-2009, 09:40 PM

Hmm, I just realized the Chargers took English over Matthews & Mauluaga? Um, ok, I now have to lower my view of their draft.

See how that works?

04-26-2009, 07:43 PM
ChiefRon Starter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Memphis, TN Casino cash: $10004900	AFC West Drafts - Compare and Discuss Chiefs Pick Player Pos Ht Wt College Round 1, Pick 3 (3) Tyson Jackson DE 6'4" 295 LSU Pick Analysis:The Chiefs pick up the best 3-4 defensive end on the board with their selection of Jackson. Though the pick was a bit of a surprise, Jackson gives the team a stout player on the edge capable of occupying multiple blockers at the point of attack. Round 3, Pick 3 (67) Alex Magee DT 6'3" 298 Purdue Pick Analysis:The former Boilermaker gives the Chiefs a versatile defender capable of playing inside or outside along the line. Magee has some pass-rushing ability and should contribute as a rotational player for the Chiefs as a rookie. Round 4, Pick 2 (102) Donald Washington CB 6'0" 197 Ohio State Pick Analysis:Washington is a tall corner but lacks exceptional speed. He came out a year early, plays well in coverage and had an outstanding three-cone time. He may have been better served to stay in school because he's unpolished in certain areas. He may struggle early until he learns the pro game. Round 5, Pick 3 (139) Colin Brown OL 6'7" 335 Missouri Pick Analysis:The Chiefs add a promising young tackle to their rotation with the selection of Brown. The former Tiger will provide quality depth for the team as a potential swing-tackle prospect. Round 6, Pick 2 (175) Quinten Lawrence WR 6'0" 184 McNeese State Pick Analysis:Lawrence is a speedy receiver who was very productive at McNeese State. He will provide the Chiefs with a vertical threat who can possibly develop into a contributor. Round 7, Pick 3 (212) Javarris Williams RB 5'10" 223 Tennessee State Pick Analysis:Williams is a two-year starter who has been productive at the smaller college level. He translates into more of a fullback at the NFL level and he could fill that role with the Chiefs. Round 7, Pick 28 (237) (From Panthers through Dolphins) Jake O'Connell TE 6'4" 255 Miami (OHIO) Pick Analysis:O'Connell has good speed and good catching ability. He's athletic and did very well in all the workouts and at his pro day. He'll help fill in for the Chiefs after the loss of Tony Gonzalez. Round 7, Pick 47 (256) (Compensatory selection) Ryan Succop K 6'2" 218 South Carolina Pick Analysis:Succop can handle both punting and kicking duties. He played extremely well at times for the Gamecocks. He could solve what has been a problem area for Kansas City in recent years in the kicking game. Broncos Pick Player Pos Ht Wt College Round 1, Pick 12 (12) Knowshon Moreno RB 5'11" 217 Georgia Pick Analysis:The Broncos eschew their defensive woes to pick the electrifying runner from Georgia. Moreno is a versatile back with outstanding quickness and elusiveness, and he gives the Broncos another weapon in the passing game with his exceptional hands and underrated route-running. With Josh McDaniels' preference for spread formations, Moreno could emerge as a playmaker in his first season. Round 1, Pick 18 (18) (From Bears) Robert Ayers LB 6'3" 272 Tennessee Pick Analysis:The former Vol is an athletic edge player with outstanding versatility. As a potential defensive end/outside linebacker, he's capable of stacking the run while also providing some pass-rushing skill off the edge. Though he has been pegged as a "one-year wonder," Ayers was playing the best football of his career at the end of his senior season, and he may continue his ascent as a rookie. Round 2, Pick 5 (37) (From Seahawks) Alphonso Smith CB 5'9" 193 Wake Forest Pick Analysis:The ultra-productive ballhawk gives the Broncos another cover corner with big-play ability. Though Smith lacks ideal size and speed, he has an outstanding feel for the game and is an ideal nickel corner in the Broncos' defense. Round 2, Pick 16 (48) Darcel McBath CB 6'0" 198 Texas Tech Pick Analysis:The former corner-turned-safety has outstanding range and instincts. Though he isn't polished in coverage, he gives the Broncos a safety capable of playing as their deep middle player. Along with their other additions on the day, the Broncos have added some youth and athleticism. Round 2, Pick 32 (64) (From Steelers) Richard Quinn TE 6'4" 264 North Carolina Pick Analysis:The Broncos bypass some intriguing tight end prospects to pick up Quinn. While he's regarded as one of the best in-line blockers at the position, Quinn tallied only 12 receptions in his career. With Daniel Graham and Tony Scheffler on the roster, Quinn will spend his initial season serving as an extra tight end in the Broncos' jumbo sets. Round 4, Pick 14 (114) David Bruton FS 6'2" 219 Notre Dame Pick Analysis:Bruton has great measurables but he is one of the biggest corners in this year's draft. Despite his impressive drill times, he does not appear as fluid on tape. To succeed in this league, he'll probably have to play in the box. There are also questions about his ball skills. He is the second defensive back the Broncos have selected as they try to improve what was a woeful secondary. Round 4, Pick 32 (132) (From Steelers) Seth Olsen OG 6'5" 306 Iowa Pick Analysis:When you draft an Iowa lineman, you know he's technically sound and has been well-coached. Olsen has great strength and can step in and play guard right away. He's similar to Marshal Yanda, who was drafted by Baltimore a couple years ago. He's got strong hands. Round 5, Pick 5 (141) (From Browns through Eagles through Patriots and Ravens) Kenny McKinley WR 6'0" 189 South Carolina Pick Analysis:The former Gamecock is a productive slot receiver with outstanding quickness. McKinley is a polished route-runner with good hands, and he'll give the Broncos another athletic receiver to add to their spread formations. Round 6, Pick 1 (174) (From Lions) Tom Brandstater QB 6'5" 220 Fresno State Pick Analysis:Brandstater is a big, strong quarterback. He's a good football player who was productive in college at Fresno State. He's got good speed and athleticism for his size and comes from a good college system. He gives Josh McDaniels a young signal-caller to develop over the years, like he did with Matt Cassel. Round 7, Pick 16 (225) Blake Schlueter C 6'2" 290 TCU Pick Analysis:Schlueter is a football player, plain and simple. He's very mature and has unbelievable quickness and agility as an offensive lineman. The question for him is whether or not he can keep his weight up. He had one of the best workouts at TCU of anyone in this year's draft. Chargers Pick Player Pos Ht Wt College Round 1, Pick 16 (16) Larry English DE 6'2" 274 Northern Illinois Pick Analysis:After watching their sack output drop significantly with Shawne Merriman injured, the Chargers add another pass rusher with English. The hard worker gives Ron Rivera a possible replacement for Merriman in the event of a rehab setback, and he gives the team three capable rushers in its 3-4 (Shaun Phillips, Merriman and English). With pass rushers at a premium, the Chargers made a wise choice. Round 3, Pick 14 (78) Louis Vasquez OG 6'5" 333 Texas Tech Pick Analysis:The Chargers find a potential replacement for Mike Goff with the selection of Vasquez. The former Red Raider lacks great athleticism, but he's a tough, physical blocker with the strength to move defenders off the ball. Round 4, Pick 13 (113) Vaughn Martin DT 6'3" 331 Western Ontario (Canada) Pick Analysis:Martin grew up in Canada and attended college north of the border. Nobody really knows the quality of his competition in college, but he had a great workout at Michigan's pro day. It's ironic that he wound up getting drafted before any Michigan player. He ran a 4.96 40 at 330 pounds and had 44 bench press reps. He gives the Chargers a 5-technique DE and has the bulk to be a nose tackle. Round 4, Pick 33 (133) (Compensatory selection) Tyronne Green OG 6'2" 309 Auburn Pick Analysis:Green is a tough guy who was a two-year starter in college. He's a former defensive tackle. He will need to push himself a little harder in the pros and ramp up his work ethic. He'll provide guard depth for the Chargers. Round 4, Pick 34 (134) (Compensatory selection) Gartrell Johnson RB 5'10" 219 Colorado State Pick Analysis:Johnson is a strong inside runner. He's a junior-college transfer who came to Colorado State as a tough runner inside the tackles. He had an outstanding bowl game against New Mexico. He's a short-yardage, goal-line rusher who will complement Darren Sproles and LaDainian Tomlinson in San Diego. Round 5, Pick 12 (148) Brandon Hughes CB 5'10" 182 Oregon State Pick Analysis:The Chargers add a hard-nosed corner with Hughes. The former Beaver is an aggressive corner with the skills to excel as a nickel corner for the team. Round 6, Pick 16 (189) Kevin Ellison S 6'1" 227 Southern Cal Pick Analysis:Ellison is a good, solid player who didn't run fast, and that hurt him. But he's still a really smart and instinctive player. Sometimes intelligent players who lack speed are able to read things better, and Ellison is one of those types of players. He works hard and loves the weight room and the film room. Round 7, Pick 15 (224) Demetrius Byrd WR 6'0" 199 LSU Pick Analysis:Byrd slid in the draft after being involved in an automobile accident just a week ago. He probably would've been drafted three rounds ago if he was healthy. He could be a developmental project for the future after he recovers from his injuries. Raiders Pick Player Pos Ht Wt College Round 1, Pick 7 (7) Darrius Heyward-Bey WR 6'2" 210 Maryland Pick Analysis:In a bit of a head-scratcher, the Raiders bypass Michael Crabtree and Jeremy Maclin to select Heyward-Bey. Although the former Maryland speedster recorded the best 40 time (4.30) at the combine, he is raw and unrefined as a receiver. He may eventually develop into a big-time weapon in the Raiders' offense, but he is a bit of a reach as a potential No. 1 receiver. Round 2, Pick 15 (47) (From Chargers through Patriots) Mike Mitchell SS 6'0" 220 Ohio Pick Analysis:The Raiders continue to place a premium on speed and athleticism over production. Although Mitchell was regarded as a second day pick in most war rooms, the Raiders nab the workout warrior with their second-round choice. Round 3, Pick 7 (71) Matt Shaughnessy DE 6'5" 266 Wisconsin Pick Analysis:The Raiders add another developmental prospect to their defensive line. Shaughnessy has excellent size and strength, but he isn't an explosive player off the edge. Round 4, Pick 24 (124) (From Patriots) Louis Murphy WR 6'2" 203 Florida Pick Analysis:Murphy had 77 receptions and a sub 4.4 time in the 40. He's a smooth route runner and projects as a solid No. 3 wideout. He's another speed player for the Raiders. They have Darrius Heyward-Bey for pure straight-line speed and Murphy gives them a good intermediate option. They are giving JaMarcus Russell some weapons. Russell has a big, strong arm and will thrown downfield to these guys. Round 4, Pick 26 (126) (From Dolphins) Slade Norris DE 6'2" 232 Oregon State Pick Analysis:Norris is a speed linebacker. He can play in space with his speed and he is another special teams demon. The Raiders have really built up their team speed in this draft. Round 6, Pick 26 (199) (From Patriots) Stryker Sulak DE 6'5" 251 Missouri Pick Analysis:Sulak had a lot of sacks in college and has a lot of speed. He is a hybrid-type player who lacks the size to play with his hand down full-time. He is a value pick and in the Raiders' 3-4 scheme, he will probably play strong-side linebacker. Round 6, Pick 29 (202) (from Panthers) Brandon Myers TE 6'4" 250 Iowa Pick Analysis:Myers is more of a blocking tight end. He serves as an extra lineman more than as a pass catcher. Iowa does a great job of developing run-blocking tight ends. Myers should help the Raiders' running game. from nfl.com/draft
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04-26-2009, 08:56 PM	#6
ChiefRon Starter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Memphis, TN Casino cash: $10004900	FWIW, http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9...39;s-NFL-Draft Denver The Broncos filled some needs and found some parts, but the bottom line is that they are without quarterback Jay Cutler now, and they definitely didn't replace him. Georgia running back Knowshon Moreno was a no-brainer with the first choice, especially since San Diego coveted him. Tennessee defensive end Robert Ayers has the look of a Justin Tuck type; able to rush from an inside position or from the edge. In the second round, new Broncos GM Brian Xanders went for secondary performers in Wake Forest CB Alphonso Smith, who has a chance to start, and Texas Tech safety Darcel McBath. South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier called Kenny McKinley the best receiver he's ever coached. McKinley started 33 consecutive games and finished with 207 receptions. He could be a steal. The Broncos are still talking about trading productive tight end Tony Scheffler, and that could be a mistake. Fresno State quarterback Tom Brandstater has an NFL arm and was a very interesting pick at No. 174. Grade: B Kansas City First-year Chiefs GM Scott Pioli didn't fool anyone with his choice of LSU defensive end Tyson Jackson, who figures to be a starter opposite former Tiger teammate Glenn Dorsey. Jackson also has the flexibility to slide inside when the Chiefs shift out of their 3-4 alignment. Alex Magee of Purdue can also play inside and outside along the defensive line and supposedly can rush the passer. Magee was a value pick. Tennessee State running back Javarris Williams is 5-10, 223 pounds and scored a school-record 42 touchdowns over four seasons while rushing for 4,329 yards. Pioli nailed the Mr. Irrelevant pick, No. 256 and the final player in the draft, by choosing a kicker, Ryan Succop of South Carolina. Grade: B- Oakland Maybe all the experts are stupid, but the Raiders were ripped for their top three selections. NFL Network draft guru Mike Mayock had low-round grades on both Ohio safety Michael Mitchell and Wisconsin linebacker Matt Shaughnessy, who was slipping down most team's draft boards. Yes, the Raiders have a need at safety with the disappointing play of former No. 1 pick Michael Huff. Reportedly, the Bears wanted Mitchell in the second round and that's why they traded out of the round. No. 1 pick Darrius Heyward-Bey may have been the fastest receiver in the draft, but he never had a 1,000-yard receiving season at Maryland and wasn't named to either the first or second all-ACC teams. Heyward-Bey was the first receiver taken by Davis since Tim Brown in 1988. The Raiders took another track-star receiver in Florida's Louis Murphy, who ran a 4.32 40-yard dash at the Combine. I think the only way owner Al Davis wins with the talking heads on television is by going out and either hiring Mayock or ESPN's Mel Kiper. Bottom line, the Raiders are 24-72 since losing to Tampa Bay in the 2003 Super Bowl, but that doesn't mean Al is going to change his ways. Grade: C- San Diego The selection of Northern Illinois pass rusher Larry English helps because of the loss of Igor Olshansky and with Shawne Merriman entering his final season contractually. It's difficult to argue with GM A.J. Smith, but a lot of teams ranked English as a second-round player. English, who started 47 games, had 31 1/2 career sacks and twice was named the best player in Mid-American Conference. Colorado State running back Gartrell Johnson proved his worth with a 285-yard effort against Fresno State in the New Mexico Bowl game. Johnson led the Mountain West Conference with 113.5 yards per game. Grade: B-
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04-26-2009, 08:57 PM	#7
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4921115	No different than how the season will play out. Chargers Broncos, Chiefs, Raiders.
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04-26-2009, 09:00 PM	#9
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2627050	That MSN grader is way to nice, I don't think any of them deserve B's except maybe the Chargers who had some nice value picks.
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04-26-2009, 09:35 PM	#13
ChiefRon Starter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Memphis, TN Casino cash: $10004900	from yahoo sports http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...=tsn&type=lgns Denver Broncos: A-minus They should not have traded Cutler, but this was not a bad job. Running back Knowshon Moreno can run it and catch it, a nice fit for Josh McDaniels' offense. The next three picks—defensive end Robert Ayers, cornerback Alphonso Smith and safety Darcel McBath—should help a defense that sorely needs it. Kansas City Chiefs: B-minus It does not matter whether defensive end Tyson Jackson deserved to be the No. 3-overall pick. They got the player they wanted, and he fits their system. Defensive tackle Alex Magee and cornerback Donald Washington will add depth. And don't forget they traded for quarterback Matt Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel before the draft. Oakland Raiders: D-minus Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey best have a better NFL career than Crabtree. There is no logic in trading up to take safety Michael Mitchell. Bad teams cannot afford to make mistakes. The Raiders might have set themselves back. San Diego Chargers: F They took a chance grabbing outside linebacker Larry English at No. 16 when they could have taken Maualuga or Matthews. GM A.J. Smith has enjoyed great drafts. On paper, this does not look like one.
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04-26-2009, 09:40 PM	#15
ChiefRon Starter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Memphis, TN Casino cash: $10004900	Hmm, I just realized the Chargers took English over Matthews & Mauluaga? Um, ok, I now have to lower my view of their draft. See how that works?
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