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RedThat 11-24-2008 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 5245337)
Whos his Dline coach? Whos his DC? Whos his HC? Who else is on our defense? Is our defense bad or just our ROOKIE DT thats already ahead of most great DT's their rookie year?

Who was Jared Allens Dline coach? bob Karmelowiz...Yeah Bob ****n Karmelowiz

Who was JAs DC? Goonther

Who was JAs HC? And Vermeil the man who knows nothing about defense.

IT'S Dorsey. He justs sucks and is what he is a "non-factor". Chief fans I know its tough to swallow, but he is what he is. It's reality.

Ebolapox 11-24-2008 12:08 PM

I blame the coaching. how ANYBODY can thrive under that level of idiocy (only eclipsed by some of the posters here) is beyond me. how the **** did jared allen do well under this coaching staff? who the **** knows.

Bob Dole 11-24-2008 12:08 PM

http://www.aceonsports.com/uploaded_...rds-759888.jpg

Mmmmm. Fig newtons.

SAUTO 11-24-2008 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5245374)
Who was Jared Allens Dline coach? bob Karmelowiz...Yeah Bob ****n Karmelowiz

Who was JAs DC? Goonther

Who was JAs HC? And Vermeil the man who knows nothing about defense.

IT'S Dorsey. He justs sucks and is what he is a "non-factor". Chief fans I know its tough to swallow, but he is what he is. It's reality.

come on man, JA came in as an unknown had 9 sacks BUT ONLY 31 TACKLES, thats really "blowing plays up all over the place" 9 sacks was good but come on

Micjones 11-24-2008 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5245374)
Who was Jared Allens Dline coach? bob Karmelowiz...Yeah Bob ****n Karmelowiz

Who was JAs DC? Goonther

Who was JAs HC? And Vermeil the man who knows nothing about defense.

IT'S Dorsey. He justs sucks and is what he is a "non-factor". Chief fans I know its tough to swallow, but he is what he is. It's reality.

It's easier to come right in and contribute at DE.
DT might be the hardest position on defense to transition into from the college ranks.

xbarretx 11-24-2008 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBobDole (Post 5245377)

Mmmmm. Fig newtons.

well played sir

SAUTO 11-24-2008 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5245316)
For all who say it takes time,

then how do you explain the play of thigpen? hes a qb..but ive heard qb needs time too...how do you explain Flowers? he's a CB...but yet i hear CBs need time too...how do you explain Jared Allen? when he got playing time early in his career, he was getting sacks and blowing plays up...and became allpro in his 3rd, 4th year.

yeah ok Dorsey is a rookie, but he is getting owned 90% of the time he out there. Not even close to doing well. yeah he showed some flashes of blowing plays up...at the rate he is going, i dont see significant progress...he is at best looking like he could be an average player and thats being nice.

took JA 3 or 4 years to become AP? then STFU until then

the Talking Can 11-24-2008 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5245271)
People talk about Dorsey as if hes some sort of project?

WTF? He is a TOP 5 PICK! Came from a great school with a great program, arguable came out as one of the best defensive players in the country, but he needs time?

yeah i aint buying that. youre either good, and you have it, or you don't.

yeah i also want my chiefs finishing shit so they can a top pick again..Dorsey is an example how finishing sh*t can hurt you.

is today reeruned Day?

PhillyChiefFan 11-24-2008 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5245379)
It's easier to come right in and contribute at DE.
DT might be the hardest position on defense to transition into from the college ranks.

:clap::clap::clap:

Completely Agree.

RedThat 11-24-2008 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1 (Post 5245376)
I blame the coaching. how ANYBODY can thrive under that level of idiocy (only eclipsed by some of the posters here) is beyond me. how the **** did jared allen do well under this coaching staff? who the **** knows.

Too many people are focused on the coaching. That's the problem.

they think everything is coaching. yeah coaching is part of it don't get me wrong. Im not a fan of Krumrie, gunther, and Herm.

Of course, and I heard many times, well Brodie Croyle can't succeed with this coaching staff? Yeah well its him too. He can't stay healthy.

SAUTO 11-24-2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5245388)
is today reeruned Day?

ROFL and i love your new avatar, TTC

RNR 11-24-2008 12:15 PM

"I am reminded of a 2nd round pick Oakland had several ago. He was interviewed about his rookie camp he told the story about going against a aging Art Shell. The first time he got up off the ground with a welt on his cheek. He brought up the welt because it returned through out his career when ever he got hit.

He laughed about how humiliated he was being handled by a great but well past his prime LT. He made very little impact for a couple years, many thought he was a reach when drafted and had written him off by the time he started catching on to the game.

He was not a DT he was DE although he made his name playing up and down the line of scrimmage. The guys name is Howie Long. My point is who knows if Dorsey is a bust, a All Pro, or a Hall of Famer. I do know this nobody has a clue what this kid will amount to after a handful of games."

This was my reply to another thread about Dorsey. It is amazing people are ready to call this guy a bust this early.

Demonpenz 11-24-2008 12:17 PM

We need to get a DT through the draft or free agency next year that is for sure. Dorsey is a rotational player at best :clap:

Brock 11-24-2008 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5245374)
Who was Jared Allens Dline coach? bob Karmelowiz...Yeah Bob ****n Karmelowiz

Who was JAs DC? Goonther

Who was JAs HC? And Vermeil the man who knows nothing about defense.

IT'S Dorsey. He justs sucks and is what he is a "non-factor". Chief fans I know its tough to swallow, but he is what he is. It's reality.

you are aware you're comparing two different positions, yes? I have to make sure, because you're coming across like a complete moron.

Brock 11-24-2008 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 5245400)
We need to get a DT through the draft or free agency next year that is for sure. Dorsey is a rotational player at best :clap:

Your schtick is played.


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