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the Talking Can 11-24-2008 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 5245400)
We need to get a DT through the draft or free agency next year that is for sure. Dorsey is a rotational player at best :clap:

i heart you, demonpenz

kcchiefsus 11-24-2008 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5245271)
People talk about Dorsey as if hes some sort of project?

WTF? He is a TOP 5 PICK! Came from a great school with a great program, arguable came out as one of the best defensive players in the country, but he needs time?

yeah i aint buying that. youre either good, and you have it, or you don't.

yeah i also want my chiefs finishing shit so they can a top pick again..Dorsey is an example how finishing sh*t can hurt you.

Your a ****ing idiot. Do us a favor and kill yourself.

the Talking Can 11-24-2008 12:19 PM

wow..almost simultaneous divergent opinions...

ROFL

RedThat 11-24-2008 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 5245396)
"I am reminded of a 2nd round pick Oakland had several ago. He was interviewed about his rookie camp he told the story about going against a aging Art Shell. The first time he got up off the ground with a welt on his cheek. He brought up the welt because it returned through out his career when ever he got hit.

He laughed about how humiliated he was being handled by a great but well past his prime LT. He made very little impact for a couple years, many thought he was a reach when drafted and had written him off by the time he started catching on to the game.

He was not a DT he was DE although he made his name playing up and down the line of scrimmage. The guys name is Howie Long. My point is who knows if Dorsey is a bust, a All Pro, or a Hall of Famer. I do know this nobody has a clue what this kid will amount to after a handful of games."

This was my reply to another thread about Dorsey. It is amazing people are ready to call this guy a bust this early.

I have a lot of respect for Howie and thought he was a great football player.

some guys progress faster, some guys progress slower. i should of said mentioned that in my posts. But, and this is my opinion and were all entitled to having one, I really don't think Dorsey will be a good football player. I dont see it.

PhillyChiefFan 11-24-2008 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 5245396)
This was my reply to another thread about Dorsey. It is amazing people are ready to call this guy a bust this early.

The season was FedExed to hell, and people are looking for a target to point the finger to.

HOWIE'S son hasn't had his name called once on SportsCenter this year!!

"oh my god, Chris will never be the player his father was. He must be a bust"

We have a sh*tty defense and people are blaming it on Glenn Dorsey because he was the highest pick.

kcchiefsus 11-24-2008 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5245374)
Who was Jared Allens Dline coach? bob Karmelowiz...Yeah Bob ****n Karmelowiz

Who was JAs DC? Goonther

Who was JAs HC? And Vermeil the man who knows nothing about defense.

IT'S Dorsey. He justs sucks and is what he is a "non-factor". Chief fans I know its tough to swallow, but he is what he is. It's reality.

Albert Haynesworth had 30 tackles and 1 sack as a rookie. Now he has 14.5 sacks over the past 2 seasons and is looking like a DPOY candidate again. I wonder if Titans fans were calling him a bust (especially after the head stomping incident). Probably not quite as much as Chiefs fans are with Dorsey because I can't imagine any other fanbase having as many dumbasses like you. So before you continue to prove your ignorance how about you just shut the **** up.

RNR 11-24-2008 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5245408)
I have a lot of respect for Howie and thought he was a great football player.

some guys progress faster, some guys progress slower. i should of said mentioned that in my posts. But, and this is my opinion and were all entitled to having one, I really don't think Dorsey will be a good football player. I dont see it.

Cool I just think it is way too early to know. I agree to disagree :)

kcchiefsus 11-24-2008 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull (Post 5245408)
I have a lot of respect for Howie and thought he was a great football player.

some guys progress faster, some guys progress slower. i should of said mentioned that in my posts. But, and this is my opinion and were all entitled to having one, I really don't think Dorsey will be a good football player. I dont see it.

Did you see Haynesworth being a good football player after he put almost the exact same stat line through 16 games as a rookie that Dorsey has put up through 11 games?

My god your a ****ing tool.

Demonpenz 11-24-2008 12:24 PM

Since dorsey isn't playing well why don't we try him at a different position to get some sort of value. Maybe we can play him on special teams to block for our return game.

RedThat 11-24-2008 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 5245410)
Albert Haynesworth had 30 tackles and 1 sack as a rookie. Now he has 14.5 sacks over the past 2 seasons and is looking like a DPOY candidate again. I wonder if Titans fans were calling him a bust (especially after the head stomping incident). Probably not quite as much as Chiefs fans are with Dorsey because I can't imagine any other fanbase having as many dumbasses like you. So before you continue to prove your ignorance how about you just shut the **** up.

You call me ignorant, read your own post and tell me who is ignorant. You hypocritical bastard

RedThat 11-24-2008 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 5245413)
Did you see Haynesworth being a good football player after he put almost the exact same stat line through 16 games as a rookie that Dorsey has put up through 11 games?

My god your a ****ing tool.

Stats are not a telling story about DT play.

xbarretx 11-24-2008 12:26 PM

On a serious note, what specifically do you guys mean by he’s being played differently than college? I mean I DO NOT for a moment think he’s a bust, however I won’t pretend to know the intricacies of the D-Line as well as others. So can I get a gist of what is meant by that?

thanks

chiefsngop 11-24-2008 12:27 PM

He could end up being a bust, he could end up in the Hall Of Fame.

Anyone calling him a for sure bust, doesn't know how to read stat lines.

Look at all the dominant DT's in the NFL right now, then refer back to their rookie year stat lines.

It is incredibly easy to prove that a DT's rookie season doesn't prove sh*t.

That's not an opinion, it's statistical fact.

Demonpenz 11-24-2008 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by xbarretx (Post 5245427)
On a serious note, what specifically do you guys mean by he’s being played differently than college? I mean I DO NOT for a moment think he’s a bust, however I won’t pretend to know the intricacies of the D-Line as well as others. So can I get a gist of what is meant by that?

thanks

In college he was allowed to go up the field and make plays, making penitration is the key. The way we are using him right now is to have him Stand up and pushed back 5 yards where he will either fall down or fall down while the ball carrier goes past him

Micjones 11-24-2008 12:30 PM

Patience is a virtue. Especially as it relates to Defensive Tackles.


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