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ranking of offensive lines 2011 (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=256389)

ranking of offensive lines 2011

pro football focus has released their rankings from 32nd to 17th...rest come out tomorrow
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...-lines-part-1/

Chiefs are ranked....in the top 16, so aren't mentioned today

2010 ranking is in parentheses, Giants were 31st which confirms beyond any doubt that Eli is a damn good QB

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31. New York Giants (13th)

Run Rank 24th, Pass Rank 32nd, Penalties Rank 7th

Yes, they won the Super Bowl, but they did so in spite of a line that sieved pressure throughout the year. Our lowest-ranked pass protecting line had problems all over, but nowhere as bad as at the tackle positions (especially once Will Beatty was lost for the year). It wasn’t just the tackles however, with every member of the Giants’ line earning a negative grade. This explains the drop-off in the run game and makes the season that Eli Manning had all the more remarkable.

Best Player: Before his season was cut short, Will Beatty (-1.2) was having a good first year starting … outside of Trent Cole showing him what for in Week 11.

Worst Player: It’s hard to look past David Diehl (-48.1) who was terrible at guard, and even worse at tackle. His on field performance is simply unacceptable, giving up a ridiculous nine sacks, eight hits and 48 hurries during the regular season.

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20. San Francisco 49ers (11th)

Run Rank 8th, Pass Rank 26th, Penalties Rank 18th

The 49ers line came in for more praise than it was due because of their dominance of the NFC West. While it does have plenty of talent and upside (particularly on the left), it’s a long way from delivering on it. They need to fix the problematic right guard spot, after Mr. Boom-or-Bust, Chilo Rachal (-8.2), was all bust this year. This line isn’t miles away from being very good, but it will need Anthony Davis (-15.0) to start playing more consistently.

Best Player: Since coming into the league, Mike Iupati (+9.6) has looked like he has belonged. A top talent.

Worst Player: You have to wonder about how bad the rest of the 49ers’ guards are in practice in that they’re forced to turn to Adam Snyder (-24.4).

Chicago's 32nd ranking makes Jay Cutler's performance until he was injured all the more remarkable as well.

Wonder where we would be ranked if we just added a RT?

Chiefs are in the top 16 which confirms beyond any doubt that Cassel is a damn terrible QB

But, but, but the Chiefs have a horrible, shitty O-line.

We had the ball so little its no wonder we're ranked higher than we should be. And there's no way the Giants line is this bad either.

But seriously... we need upgrades. Two of our players are has-beens, and one of our guys is a never-will.

But if people want to point fingers at our piss poor production on offense in 2011 in spite of offensive weapons out the wazoo, they better not be pointing them at the offensive line.

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Originally Posted by WVChiefFan (Post 8391032)

We had the ball so little its no wonder we're ranked higher than we should be. And there's no way the Giants line is this bad either.

These ranking have nothing to do with how much you have the ball.

These rankings are based on the observations of people whose job is to review tape of each indivual player on the line and grade out how they performed on each play.

And yes, the Giants line was actually that bad.

PFF is just terrible. I really don't understand why anyone puts any credence into what they say. The Giants are NOT the 2nd worst line in the NFL.. that's just garbage.

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8391041)

Except they have zero qualifications.. I'd take your opinion 1000 times over these yahoos. If watching tape alone made one an expert then GoChiefs wouldn't be as piss ignorant as he is about the game.

And NO the Giants line was NOT that bad.. I'd say they would fall in the 25-27 range but certainly not 2nd to last.

The problem with garbage "stats" sites like this is that they don't KNOW what is supposed to have happened on every play so they basically GUESS. The only people who can make these types of judgements and be 100% accurate all of the time are the Chiefs coaching staff. Certainly not GoChiefs in his parent's basement.

yep, this just confirms what we all know, we need a QB.

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8391044)

No system is perfect, but from what I saw, the Giants O-Line was bad.

They might have them rated a little low, but they looked like a bottom 10 unit, especially early in the season.

They did improve late in the season, and that helped in their run to the SB.

But they weren't good.

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8391053)

It is a finished basement. Does that give him any more expertise?

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8391057)

No they definitely weren't good by any stretch. As I said, 25-27 range is where I'd put them.

I just hate "systems" like PFF where they try to pass of garbage guesses as if they are STATS and FACTS. They aren't, they are guesses and opinions.