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chiefforlife 03-18-2013 05:33 PM
Albert being shopped for a 2nd rounder
 
Branden Albert available for 2nd-round pick?

Citing chatter at the NFL Owners Meetings, ESPN's John Clayton believes the Dolphins could acquire franchise player LT Branden Albert from the Chiefs in exchange for a second-round draft pick.
Albert signed his one-year, $9.828 million tender on Monday and is available for trade. Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland has a need at left tackle and two second-round picks: Nos. 42 and 54. Trading for Albert would likely also require Miami signing him to a long-term extension. The Dolphins have structured their free-agent contracts in a backloaded manner and still have $15 million in cap room.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...2nd-round-pick

Nightfyre 03-18-2013 05:34 PM
That is a "journalist" completely stretching Clayton's tweet.

RealSNR 03-18-2013 05:34 PM
I hope you get raped

chiefforlife 03-18-2013 05:35 PM
Im not for it, just posting what I read.

Id prefer to keep him.

RealSNR 03-18-2013 05:35 PM
Read the front page you dolt. TWO threads on this.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-18-2013 05:40 PM
Where does it say he is being shopped for a 2nd? It doesn't, that's where.

Dante84 03-18-2013 05:43 PM
Stupid ****ing thread is stupid as ****.

And this is coming from the guy who thinks we will rape the Buffalo Titans.

TribalElder 03-18-2013 05:45 PM
Get your shit pushed in forcefully

chiefforlife 03-18-2013 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapist (Post 9511693)
Read the front page you dolt. TWO threads on this.
No, there isnt. There is one about Albert signing his tender.

This one is about Albert being shopped for a second rounder.

Simmer down, Pot Roast.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-18-2013 05:47 PM
Poppin' Fresh LOver111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

King_Chief_Fan 03-18-2013 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 9511681)
Branden Albert available for 2nd-round pick?

Citing chatter at the NFL Owners Meetings, ESPN's John Clayton believes the Dolphins could acquire franchise player LT Branden Albert from the Chiefs in exchange for a second-round draft pick.
Albert signed his one-year, $9.828 million tender on Monday and is available for trade. Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland has a need at left tackle and two second-round picks: Nos. 42 and 54. Trading for Albert would likely also require Miami signing him to a long-term extension. The Dolphins have structured their free-agent contracts in a backloaded manner and still have $15 million in cap room.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...2nd-round-pick
roto rooter world

In58men 03-18-2013 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 9511724)
No, there isnt. There is one about Albert signing his tender.

This one is about Albert being shopped for a second rounder.

Simmer down, Pot Roast.
I like pot roast.

Dante84 03-18-2013 05:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 9511724)

Simmer down, Pot Roast.
LMAO

I retract my earlier statement.

This thread is now worth reading.

Bump 03-18-2013 06:23 PM
I guess we are drafting Jokel

fml

Mother****erJones 03-18-2013 06:28 PM
Wait were trading Albert to Dolphins for Pot Roast? Sheesh Dorsey you're getting raped this offseason in the trade column

DTLB58 03-18-2013 06:34 PM
So basically Clayton is just speculating this because conveniently the Dolphins have two second rd picks this year?

jd1020 03-18-2013 06:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 9511873)
So basically Clayton is just speculating this because conveniently the Dolphins have two second rd picks this year?
And probably because it makes sense for the Dolphins and not the Chiefs, making it an almost certainty to happen.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-18-2013 06:38 PM
The meetings were in Arizona the Clayton was gang ravaged by tarantuas and a camel spider hybrid.

dannybcaitlyn 03-18-2013 06:50 PM
A BIG **** No!!

Rausch 03-18-2013 06:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life (Post 9511860)
Wait were trading Albert to Dolphins for Pot Roast? Sheesh Dorsey you're getting raped this offseason in the trade column
Keys.

Time to hand them over bud...

BlackHelicopters 03-18-2013 06:51 PM
Free Love.

The Bad Guy 03-18-2013 06:52 PM
This is just my hunch, but I think this has been their plan all along. Albert's demands are very very high right now.

Mother****erJones 03-18-2013 06:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9511918)
Keys.

Time to hand them over bud...
:facepalm: *slams keys into your hand*

TLO 03-18-2013 06:53 PM
this thread smells of rape and candy.

Mr. Laz 03-18-2013 06:54 PM
huge difference between 'could be had for a 2nd' and 'being shopped for a 2nd'


it's all just guessing by Clayton

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-18-2013 06:56 PM
This just really makes no sense to make the team better which is what Dorsey / Reid were hired to do !

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-18-2013 07:47 PM
Brandon Albert +1.1+2.34+2014 2nd Rounder < Luke Joeckel, Alex Smith, +2.42

Dorsey and Reid just wrote that equation on the board.

cdcox 03-18-2013 07:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9512111)
Brandon Albert +1.1+2.34+2014 2nd Rounder < Luke Joeckel, Alex Smith, +2.42

Dorsey and Reid just wrote that equation on the board.
It's unbelievable.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-18-2013 07:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9512118)
It's unbelievable.
If it happens that way, it will show how out of touch Reid is and that Dorsey was Peter Principled.

Doesn't mean it will go down like that, but if it does, it's a terrible, terrible omen.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-18-2013 07:52 PM
Blue Lagoon Gladiolas in the flower bed this year. And, my Ivy plant is starting to grow finally.
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KC native 03-18-2013 07:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9512111)
Brandon Albert +1.1+2.34+2014 2nd Rounder < Luke Joeckel, Alex Smith, +2.42

Dorsey and Reid just wrote that equation on the board.
Ugh. Only this ****ing franchise :facepalm:

confused 03-18-2013 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rapist (Post 9511693)
Read the front page you dolt. TWO threads on this.
This is why I recommend a minimum 30 minutes of physical exercise per day.

TRR 03-18-2013 08:06 PM
I get what most are saying in this thread. However, KC is 25-55 with Albert as their left tackle. Yea....Yeah....Yeah....I know. He's not all to blame. He is however playing one of the most important positions on the offensive side, and after a 2-14 season, he openly admits he won't play a different position even if it betters the team. That's an issue.

We shall see what happens with Branden Albert.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 03-18-2013 08:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TRR (Post 9512154)
I get what most are saying in this thread. However, KC is 25-55 with Albert as their left tackle. Yea....Yeah....Yeah....I know. He's not all to blame. He is however playing one of the most important positions on the offensive side, and after a 2-14 season, he openly admits he won't play a different position even if it betters the team. That's an issue.

We shall see what happens with Branden Albert.
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What was the Rams' record with Orlando Pace as a young player?

How does moving Albert to RT make the team better?

Reaper16 03-18-2013 08:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TRR (Post 9512154)
I get what most are saying in this thread. However, KC is 25-55 with Albert as their left tackle. Yea....Yeah....Yeah....I know. He's not all to blame. He is however playing one of the most important positions on the offensive side, and after a 2-14 season, he openly admits he won't play a different position even if it betters the team. That's an issue.

We shall see what happens with Branden Albert.
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Not ALL to blame, huh? How generous of you.

keg in kc 03-18-2013 08:13 PM
I didn't realize Albert was to blame for Cassel's play. And Huard's play. And Thigpen's play. And Palko's play. And Quinn's play. Now it all makes sense.

cdcox 03-18-2013 08:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9512178)
I didn't realize Albert was to blame for Cassel's play. And Huard's play. And Thigpen's play. And Palko's play. And Quinn's play. Now it all makes sense.
Those guys could have used another 12 - 19 seconds of pass protection.

milkman 03-18-2013 08:17 PM
Browns should just cut Joe Thomas.

That team has sucked every year he has been in the league.

candyman 03-18-2013 08:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9512194)
Browns should just cut Joe Thomas.

That team has sucked every year he has been in the league.
No doubt. What a stupid ****ing argument.

Mr. Laz 03-18-2013 08:20 PM
we still don't have a right tackle so i don't see how/why we would go ahead and trade our left tackle too.

Chiefs might take a LT at 1 but imo they would put him at RT for a year and trade Albert next year if the rookie works out.



btw who's going to be our MLB?

patteeu 03-18-2013 08:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9512170)
What was the Rams' record with Orlando Pace as a young player?

How does moving Albert to RT make the team better?
I don't think that's the issue. If there's an issue, it's his attitude about doing what's best for Branden instead of what's best for the team. Personally, I don't think that's a problem and I think he'd play RT if he loses his job at LT.

patteeu 03-18-2013 08:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9512178)
I didn't realize Albert was to blame for Cassel's play. And Huard's play. And Thigpen's play. And Palko's play. And Quinn's play. Now it all makes sense.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9512185)
Those guys could have used another 12 - 19 seconds of pass protection.
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9512194)
Browns should just cut Joe Thomas.

That team has sucked every year he has been in the league.
Quote:
Originally Posted by candyman (Post 9512203)
No doubt. What a stupid ****ing argument.
You guys act as if this team has just been one position away from success all these years. There are good players on this team, but I can't justify calling any of them indispensable. None of them are so good that their position can't be improved with the possible exception of the RB and the punter. And AFAIC, I'm being generous to those two guys.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-18-2013 08:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9512227)
I don't think that's the issue. If there's an issue, it's his attitude about doing what's best for Branden instead of what's best for the team. Personally, I don't think that's a problem and I think he'd play RT if he loses his job at LT.
It may not be the issue, but that was the question raised by TRR's post when he said he "wont move even if it makes the team better." I can't imagine a scenario by which such a move would improve the team, which makes the asking of the question either specious or ignorant.

patteeu 03-18-2013 08:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9512249)
It may not be the issue, but that was the question raised by TRR's post when he said he "wont move even if it makes the team better." I can't imagine a scenario by which such a move would improve the team, which makes the asking of the question either specious or ignorant.
I disagree with your interpretation. When TRR says "that's an issue", the antecedent of the pronoun is Albert's apparent unwillingness to play a different position even if it makes the team better, not the notion that the team can't be improved because Albert is unwilling to move.

cdcox 03-18-2013 08:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9512238)
You guys act as if this team has just been one position away from success all these years. There are good players on this team, but I can't justify calling any of them indispensable. None of them are so good that their position can't be improved with the possible exception of the RB and the punter. And AFAIC, I'm being generous to those two guys.
No one said Albert was indispensable or that you couldn't find a better LT. The question is what are the odds of improving the position and are you getting good return on the investment of 1.1?

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-18-2013 08:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9512285)
I disagree with your interpretation. When TRR says "that's an issue", the antecedent of the pronoun is Albert's apparent unwillingness to play a different position even if it makes the team better, not the notion that the team can't be improved because Albert is unwilling to move.
Given the realities of the players available there is no logical way by which his moving would improve the team. Again, at best it's a specious argument. It suggests an impossibility then ruminates on the implications of something that wouldn't happen happening. Pointless at best.

KCFaninSEA 03-18-2013 08:49 PM
Why would they put the franchise tag on a guy and basically agree to pay him the average salary of the top 5 at his position and only look to get a 2nd round pick for him? If he is worth that kind of money then you keep him. If he is only worth a 2nd rounder then they are probably overpaying. If they trade Albert for only a 2 IMO they contradicting themselves.

Nightfyre 03-18-2013 08:49 PM
This is the lounge. Keep the quibbling in DC please.

ShortRoundChief 03-18-2013 08:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9512297)
No one said Albert was indispensable or that you couldn't find a better LT. The question is what are the odds of improving the position and are you getting good return on the investment of 1.1?
It would be, despite not being the flashy fan favorite. From everything I get Joeckel and Fisher are to tackles what Luck and RG3 were to qbs last year. Not a lot of flash, however, you get younger cheaper tackles that shore up the position without injury. Especially, when the swap gets you the extra pick to possibly pick up a qb.

milkman 03-18-2013 08:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9512238)
You guys act as if this team has just been one position away from success all these years. There are good players on this team, but I can't justify calling any of them indispensable. None of them are so good that their position can't be improved with the possible exception of the RB and the punter. And AFAIC, I'm being generous to those two guys.
No, dipshit.

We were responding to the stupid post that suggested that Albert was responsible in some way for the crap teams that have taken the field since he's been Chief.

ShortRoundChief 03-18-2013 08:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KCFaninSEA (Post 9512311)
Why would they put the franchise tag on a guy and basically agree to pay him the average salary of the top 5 at his position and only look to get a 2nd round pick for him? If he is worth that kind of money then you keep him. If he is only worth a 2nd rounder then they are probably overpaying. If they trade Albert for only a 2 IMO they contradicting themselves.
You have to tag him before you can trade him. See Matt Cassel.

patteeu 03-18-2013 08:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9512297)
No one said Albert was indispensable or that you couldn't find a better LT. The question is what are the odds of improving the position and are you getting good return on the investment of 1.1?
No one said Albert was to blame for Cassel's play... and Huard's play... and Thigpen's play... and Palko's play... and Quinn's play, either. (keg's post)

No one said the reason to consider upgrading the offensive line was to give the QB 12 - 19 seconds of additional protection, either. (your post)

No one said the best offensive lineman should automatically be cut if your team sucks for several years in a row after he's drafted, either. (milkman and candyman's posts).

It works both ways.

chiefforlife 03-18-2013 08:55 PM
Trading a 1st round LT in his prime, only to replace him with a 1st round tackle who may or may not be as good as him, seems a waste of a first round pick. Does it not?

We may be able to trade down in the first and pick up that 2nd round pick that everyone is wiling to take for Albert anyway, right?

Nightfyre 03-18-2013 08:56 PM
quibbling I say. I call foul.

bowener 03-18-2013 08:57 PM
Has this trade rumor been confirmed by any other sources? Legit question.

CoMoChief 03-18-2013 08:57 PM
I thought two 1st rounders were the required compensation for a franchised player?

milkman 03-18-2013 08:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TRR (Post 9512154)
I get what most are saying in this thread. However, KC is 25-55 with Albert as their left tackle. Yea....Yeah....Yeah....I know. He's not all to blame. He is however playing one of the most important positions on the offensive side, and after a 2-14 season, he openly admits he won't play a different position even if it betters the team. That's an issue.:thumb:

We shall see what happens with Branden Albert.
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Read the post, you ****ing moron.

milkman 03-18-2013 08:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9512368)
I thought two 1st rounders were the required compensation for a franchised player?
What a surprise.

patteeu 03-18-2013 09:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9512316)
No, dipshit.

We were responding to the stupid post that suggested that Albert was responsible in some way for the crap teams that have taken the field since he's been Chief.
The post that specifically pointed out that there were other causes for the Chiefs problems during that period. Albert has contributed to the fail on more than one occasion even if he's one of the brighter spots on that side of the ball. He, himself, admits that he's had some disappointing seasons. As usual, you over-reacted to a pretty reasonable critique. You know, you can disagree with people without pretending that their comments are stupid.

cdcox 03-18-2013 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9512346)
No one said Albert was to blame for Cassel's play... and Huard's play... and Thigpen's play... and Palko's play... and Quinn's play, either. (keg's post)

No one said the reason to consider upgrading the offensive line was to give the QB 12 - 19 seconds of additional protection, either. (your post)

No one said the best offensive lineman should automatically be cut if your team sucks for several years in a row after he's drafted, either. (milkman and candyman's posts).

It works both ways.
But you're defending using 1.1 to marginally upgrade a position of relative strength. It's not the style of the argument, its the content. You're just on the wrong side of this argument.

Dave Lane 03-18-2013 09:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9512111)
Brandon Albert +1.1+2.34+2014 2nd Rounder < Luke Joeckel, Alex Smith, +2.42

Dorsey and Reid just wrote that equation on the board.
I want to ****ing cry.

patteeu 03-18-2013 09:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 9512391)
But you're defending using 1.1 to marginally upgrade a position of relative strength. It's not the style of the argument, its the content. You're just on the wrong side of this argument.
No, I'm not defending that at all. If it wasn't previously clear, I'm opposed to using the 1.1 to marginally upgrade any position, including both LT and QB. I'm pointing out that the four of you made absurd arguments.

If the Chiefs use the 1.1 on a tackle, I'm going to assume that they think it will be a substantial upgrade, not a marginal one and I'm going to hope that they're right.

Similarly, if they trade Tamba Hali and draft an OLB, I'm going to assume that they think the combination of the new player and the trade compensation is a substantial upgrade.

milkman 03-18-2013 09:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9512385)
The post that specifically pointed out that there were other causes for the Chiefs problems during that period. Albert has contributed to the fail on more than one occasion even if he's one of the brighter spots on that side of the ball. He, himself, admits that he's had some disappointing seasons. As usual, you over-reacted to a pretty reasonable critique. You know, you can disagree with people without pretending that their comments are stupid.
Who the **** is pretending?

It was a stupid ****ing comment, and only stupid ****ers like you don't recognize as such.

patteeu 03-18-2013 09:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9512418)
Who the **** is pretending.

It was a stupid ****ing comment, and only stupid ****ers like you don't recognize as such.
You. I thought I was being clear.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-18-2013 09:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9512227)
I don't think that's the issue. If there's an issue, it's his attitude about doing what's best for Branden instead of what's best for the team. Personally, I don't think that's a problem and I think he'd play RT if he loses his job at LT.
Bullshit. Its about approaching the upper tiers of his craft after putting in the work, and being GodDAMNED if he is going to piss that away because "Andy" thinks it would be a swell idea! **** that shit.
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milkman 03-18-2013 09:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9512422)
You. I thought I was being clear.
Don't ****ing tell me I'm pretnding you useless ****ing dick.

BigMeatballDave 03-18-2013 09:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9512368)
I thought two 1st rounders were the required compensation for a franchised player?
:doh!:


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