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Old 03-18-2013, 08:20 PM   #1
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Browns should just cut Joe Thomas.

That team has sucked every year he has been in the league.
No doubt. What a stupid ****ing argument.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:30 PM   #2
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I didn't realize Albert was to blame for Cassel's play. And Huard's play. And Thigpen's play. And Palko's play. And Quinn's play. Now it all makes sense.
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Those guys could have used another 12 - 19 seconds of pass protection.
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Browns should just cut Joe Thomas.

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No doubt. What a stupid ****ing argument.
You guys act as if this team has just been one position away from success all these years. There are good players on this team, but I can't justify calling any of them indispensable. None of them are so good that their position can't be improved with the possible exception of the RB and the punter. And AFAIC, I'm being generous to those two guys.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:45 PM   #3
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You guys act as if this team has just been one position away from success all these years. There are good players on this team, but I can't justify calling any of them indispensable. None of them are so good that their position can't be improved with the possible exception of the RB and the punter. And AFAIC, I'm being generous to those two guys.
No one said Albert was indispensable or that you couldn't find a better LT. The question is what are the odds of improving the position and are you getting good return on the investment of 1.1?
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:49 PM   #4
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No one said Albert was indispensable or that you couldn't find a better LT. The question is what are the odds of improving the position and are you getting good return on the investment of 1.1?
It would be, despite not being the flashy fan favorite. From everything I get Joeckel and Fisher are to tackles what Luck and RG3 were to qbs last year. Not a lot of flash, however, you get younger cheaper tackles that shore up the position without injury. Especially, when the swap gets you the extra pick to possibly pick up a qb.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:54 PM   #5
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No one said Albert was indispensable or that you couldn't find a better LT. The question is what are the odds of improving the position and are you getting good return on the investment of 1.1?
No one said Albert was to blame for Cassel's play... and Huard's play... and Thigpen's play... and Palko's play... and Quinn's play, either. (keg's post)

No one said the reason to consider upgrading the offensive line was to give the QB 12 - 19 seconds of additional protection, either. (your post)

No one said the best offensive lineman should automatically be cut if your team sucks for several years in a row after he's drafted, either. (milkman and candyman's posts).

It works both ways.
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:04 PM   #6
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No one said Albert was to blame for Cassel's play... and Huard's play... and Thigpen's play... and Palko's play... and Quinn's play, either. (keg's post)

No one said the reason to consider upgrading the offensive line was to give the QB 12 - 19 seconds of additional protection, either. (your post)

No one said the best offensive lineman should automatically be cut if your team sucks for several years in a row after he's drafted, either. (milkman and candyman's posts).

It works both ways.
But you're defending using 1.1 to marginally upgrade a position of relative strength. It's not the style of the argument, its the content. You're just on the wrong side of this argument.
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:09 PM   #7
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But you're defending using 1.1 to marginally upgrade a position of relative strength. It's not the style of the argument, its the content. You're just on the wrong side of this argument.
No, I'm not defending that at all. If it wasn't previously clear, I'm opposed to using the 1.1 to marginally upgrade any position, including both LT and QB. I'm pointing out that the four of you made absurd arguments.

If the Chiefs use the 1.1 on a tackle, I'm going to assume that they think it will be a substantial upgrade, not a marginal one and I'm going to hope that they're right.

Similarly, if they trade Tamba Hali and draft an OLB, I'm going to assume that they think the combination of the new player and the trade compensation is a substantial upgrade.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:49 PM   #8
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You guys act as if this team has just been one position away from success all these years. There are good players on this team, but I can't justify calling any of them indispensable. None of them are so good that their position can't be improved with the possible exception of the RB and the punter. And AFAIC, I'm being generous to those two guys.
No, dipshit.

We were responding to the stupid post that suggested that Albert was responsible in some way for the crap teams that have taken the field since he's been Chief.
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:02 PM   #9
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No, dipshit.

We were responding to the stupid post that suggested that Albert was responsible in some way for the crap teams that have taken the field since he's been Chief.
The post that specifically pointed out that there were other causes for the Chiefs problems during that period. Albert has contributed to the fail on more than one occasion even if he's one of the brighter spots on that side of the ball. He, himself, admits that he's had some disappointing seasons. As usual, you over-reacted to a pretty reasonable critique. You know, you can disagree with people without pretending that their comments are stupid.
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Old 03-18-2013, 09:10 PM   #10
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The post that specifically pointed out that there were other causes for the Chiefs problems during that period. Albert has contributed to the fail on more than one occasion even if he's one of the brighter spots on that side of the ball. He, himself, admits that he's had some disappointing seasons. As usual, you over-reacted to a pretty reasonable critique. You know, you can disagree with people without pretending that their comments are stupid.
Who the **** is pretending?

It was a stupid ****ing comment, and only stupid ****ers like you don't recognize as such.
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Who the **** is pretending.

It was a stupid ****ing comment, and only stupid ****ers like you don't recognize as such.
You. I thought I was being clear.
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You. I thought I was being clear.
Don't ****ing tell me I'm pretnding you useless ****ing dick.
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