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cmh6476 01-27-2005 05:59 PM

Chiefs in cap trouble? $7 mil over?
 
is this right?

http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/numbers.asp

Phobia 01-27-2005 06:01 PM

It's right for the moment. But, it's meaningless in January and February. Talk to me in March when VH is gone. His imaginary roster bonus is consuming a large portion of that number.

cmh6476 01-27-2005 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
It's right for the moment. But, it's meaningless in January and February. Talk to me in March when VH is gone. His imaginary roster bonus is consuming a large portion of that number.

will morton end up a cap casualty? :shrug:

Phobia 01-27-2005 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476
will morton end up a cap casualty? :shrug:

With any of the other 31 coaches in the league, we all know the answer to that question. With DV at the helm, flip a coin.

Kris Kringle 01-27-2005 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476
will morton end up a cap casualty? :shrug:

That's what "they" say.

BigChiefFan 01-27-2005 06:08 PM

I don't give a shit if we are $50 million over the cap. The Chiefs need to make some moves.

HolmeZz 01-27-2005 06:11 PM

That probably also doesn't count guys who are going to be FAs this year.

Mr. Laz 01-27-2005 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz
That probably also doesn't count guys who are going to be FAs this year.

it doesn't ... any players set to be FA's for the chiefs won't be counted in any cap estimates.


Code:

Player            Pos Status
Montique Sharpe    DT ERFA 
Lawrence Tynes    PK ERFA 
Ronnie Cruz        RB ERFA 
Omar Easy          FB ERFA 
Scott Connot      S  ERFA 
Shaunard Harts    S  ERFA 
Aaron Golliday    TE ERFA 
Jonathan Ingram    C  ERFA 
Scott Fujita      LB RFA 
Quinton Caver      LB RFA 
Todd Collins      QB UFA 
Damon Huard        QB UFA 
Derrick Blaylock  RB UFA 
Kendall Gammon    TE UFA


BigRedChief 01-27-2005 06:40 PM

Yeah, It don't mean squat right now. Releasing Holliday, Barber and Morton will give us cap room to get one or two quality free agents.

Dave Lane 01-27-2005 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476

How the F@CK to we sign no one and are still in cap hell when we should be about $8 million under. We need a new cap accountant.

Dave

Dave Lane 01-27-2005 07:54 PM

Heres who we need:

Carl Peterson was interviewing applicants for the position of capologist. He devised a simple test to select the most suitable person for the job. He asked each applicant the question, "How much is two and two?"
The first interviewee came in. His answer was "4" Carl said thanks for coming, Next! The second applicant was an CPA. He pulled out a calculator and showed the answer was four. Carl said thanks for coming, Next!

The last applicant came in. When Carl asked him the question, the accountant got up from his chair, went over to the door, closed it, took the phone off the hook, closed the drapes came back and sat down. Then, he leaned across the desk and said in a low voice, "How much do you want it to be?"

He's hired!

Dave

Braincase 01-27-2005 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane
Heres who we need:

Carl Peterson was interviewing applicants for the position of capologist. He devised a simple test to select the most suitable person for the job. He asked each applicant the question, "How much is two and two?"
The first interviewee came in. His answer was "4" Carl said thanks for coming, Next! The second applicant was an CPA. He pulled out a calculator and showed the answer was four. Carl said thanks for coming, Next!

The last applicant came in. When Carl asked him the question, the accountant got up from his chair, went over to the door, closed it, took the phone off the hook, closed the drapes came back and sat down. Then, he leaned across the desk and said in a low voice, "How much do you want it to be?"

He's hired!

Dave

I'd just as soon stay away from vets of the Broncos Front Office.

htismaqe 01-27-2005 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane
How the F@CK to we sign no one and are still in cap hell when we should be about $8 million under. We need a new cap accountant.

Dave

How about you just realize the fact that neither the NFL nor it's teams release cap numbers and any number published by the media is nothing more than a GUESS...

Phobia 01-27-2005 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
How about you just realize the fact that neither the NFL nor it's teams release cap numbers and any number published by the media is nothing more than a GUESS...

Anybody with a rudimentary understanding of the salary cap and the CBA can come damn close if they follow the team's transactions closely.

For instance, the transition tag on Tait last year revealed that we had X dollars available under the cap. Dollars which were never totally spent. Hell, the Chiefs own staff journalist acknowledged they were more than $5 mill under....

htismaqe 01-27-2005 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia
Anybody with a rudimentary understanding of the salary cap and the CBA can come damn close if they follow the team's transactions closely.

For instance, the transition tag on Tait last year revealed that we had X dollars available under the cap. Dollars which were never totally spent. Hell, the Chiefs own staff journalist acknowledged they were more than $5 mill over....

Wait a sec...

Dollars weren't spent, yet we were $5M over? That makes no sense.

That being said, I agree with you. People can make educated guesses. But it's also not exact, or factual. It's still a guess.

Petro said MONTHS ago when people were bitching about the mythical $11M number that we were not $11M under the cap and it was because of bonuses. People said at the time he was a liar. Turns out he was right.


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