Chiefs in cap trouble? $7 mil over?

cmh6476 · 01-27-2005, 05:59 PM

is this right?

http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/numbers.asp

01-27-2005, 06:01 PM

It's right for the moment. But, it's meaningless in January and February. Talk to me in March when VH is gone. His imaginary roster bonus is consuming a large portion of that number.

cmh6476 · 01-27-2005, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

It's right for the moment. But, it's meaningless in January and February. Talk to me in March when VH is gone. His imaginary roster bonus is consuming a large portion of that number.

will morton end up a cap casualty?

01-27-2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476

will morton end up a cap casualty?

With any of the other 31 coaches in the league, we all know the answer to that question. With DV at the helm, flip a coin.

Kris Kringle · 01-27-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476

will morton end up a cap casualty?

That's what "they" say.

BigChiefFan · 01-27-2005, 06:08 PM

I don't give a shit if we are $50 million over the cap. The Chiefs need to make some moves.

HolmeZz · 01-27-2005, 06:11 PM

That probably also doesn't count guys who are going to be FAs this year.

Mr. Laz · 01-27-2005, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

That probably also doesn't count guys who are going to be FAs this year.

it doesn't ... any players set to be FA's for the chiefs won't be counted in any cap estimates.

Code:

Player             Pos Status 
Montique Sharpe    DT ERFA  
Lawrence Tynes     PK ERFA  
Ronnie Cruz        RB ERFA  
Omar Easy          FB ERFA  
Scott Connot       S  ERFA  
Shaunard Harts     S  ERFA  
Aaron Golliday     TE ERFA  
Jonathan Ingram    C  ERFA  
Scott Fujita       LB RFA  
Quinton Caver      LB RFA  
Todd Collins       QB UFA  
Damon Huard        QB UFA  
Derrick Blaylock   RB UFA  
Kendall Gammon     TE UFA

**BigRedChief** · 01-27-2005, 06:40 PM

Yeah, It don't mean squat right now. Releasing Holliday, Barber and Morton will give us cap room to get one or two quality free agents.

**Dave Lane** · 01-27-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476

is this right?

http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/numbers.asp

How the F@CK to we sign no one and are still in cap hell when we should be about $8 million under. We need a new cap accountant.

Dave

**Dave Lane** · 01-27-2005, 07:54 PM

Heres who we need:

Carl Peterson was interviewing applicants for the position of capologist. He devised a simple test to select the most suitable person for the job. He asked each applicant the question, "How much is two and two?"
The first interviewee came in. His answer was "4" Carl said thanks for coming, Next! The second applicant was an CPA. He pulled out a calculator and showed the answer was four. Carl said thanks for coming, Next!

The last applicant came in. When Carl asked him the question, the accountant got up from his chair, went over to the door, closed it, took the phone off the hook, closed the drapes came back and sat down. Then, he leaned across the desk and said in a low voice, "How much do you want it to be?"

He's hired!

Dave

Braincase · 01-27-2005, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Heres who we need:

Carl Peterson was interviewing applicants for the position of capologist. He devised a simple test to select the most suitable person for the job. He asked each applicant the question, "How much is two and two?"
The first interviewee came in. His answer was "4" Carl said thanks for coming, Next! The second applicant was an CPA. He pulled out a calculator and showed the answer was four. Carl said thanks for coming, Next!

The last applicant came in. When Carl asked him the question, the accountant got up from his chair, went over to the door, closed it, took the phone off the hook, closed the drapes came back and sat down. Then, he leaned across the desk and said in a low voice, "How much do you want it to be?"

He's hired!

Dave

I'd just as soon stay away from vets of the Broncos Front Office.

htismaqe · 01-27-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

How the F@CK to we sign no one and are still in cap hell when we should be about $8 million under. We need a new cap accountant.

Dave

How about you just realize the fact that neither the NFL nor it's teams release cap numbers and any number published by the media is nothing more than a GUESS...

01-27-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

How about you just realize the fact that neither the NFL nor it's teams release cap numbers and any number published by the media is nothing more than a GUESS...

Anybody with a rudimentary understanding of the salary cap and the CBA can come damn close if they follow the team's transactions closely.

For instance, the transition tag on Tait last year revealed that we had X dollars available under the cap. Dollars which were never totally spent. Hell, the Chiefs own staff journalist acknowledged they were more than $5 mill under....

htismaqe · 01-27-2005, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

Anybody with a rudimentary understanding of the salary cap and the CBA can come damn close if they follow the team's transactions closely.

For instance, the transition tag on Tait last year revealed that we had X dollars available under the cap. Dollars which were never totally spent. Hell, the Chiefs own staff journalist acknowledged they were more than $5 mill over....

Wait a sec...

Dollars weren't spent, yet we were $5M over? That makes no sense.

That being said, I agree with you. People can make educated guesses. But it's also not exact, or factual. It's still a guess.

Petro said MONTHS ago when people were bitching about the mythical $11M number that we were not $11M under the cap and it was because of bonuses. People said at the time he was a liar. Turns out he was right.

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