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WestCoastReggie 10-08-2005 12:22 PM

Alex Rodriguez or David Ortiz?
 
MVP?

HolmeZz 10-08-2005 12:23 PM

Big Papi.

WestCoastReggie 10-08-2005 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz
Big Papi.

I hope Big Papi, but if someone put a gun to me I would say A-Rod

HolmeZz 10-08-2005 12:36 PM

What if it was David Ortiz holding the gun?

Demonpenz 10-08-2005 12:42 PM

no dh should ever win the mvp

HolmeZz 10-08-2005 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz
no dh should ever win the mvp

It's not like ARod would be winning the MVP because of his defense.

JBucc 10-08-2005 01:01 PM

Andruw Jones should win both MVPs

OmahaChief 10-08-2005 01:16 PM

A-Rod all the way.

Dunit35 10-08-2005 03:39 PM

Id go with Ortiz even though he is a DH..cause I hate anyone or anything involved with the yankees..

Sully 10-08-2005 03:42 PM

Papi.
For my reasoning, refer to Bill Simmons' column in the latests "The Mag."

Calcountry 10-08-2005 03:44 PM

neither of these two fools were good enough to get their team out of LDS.

Arod still has a chance, but it doesn't look likely.

Start looking at some other teams for mvp, the red sux aren't going anywhere.

ChiefsFanatic 10-08-2005 10:54 PM

So what if he is a DH? Most kickers in the NFL score more points than anyone else on their teams. And they are only kickers.

Big Papi all the way. I would even take ManRam over A-Rod.

Halfcan 10-09-2005 01:43 AM

I DH for MVP, wouldn't suprise me since baseball is such a Puzzy sport anymore. Seriously MLB is worse than soccer. Who really gives a fuck???

CupidStunt 10-09-2005 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolmeZz
It's not like ARod would be winning the MVP because of his defense.

He plays gold-glove defense. Ortiz sits on the bench.

Not only is A-Rod the MVP, this isn't even a DEBATE. It's just not even close.

Rodriguez had by far the better year.

HolmeZz 10-09-2005 09:21 AM

a) ARod doesn't play 'gold glove' defense. He will make a nice play or two, but he'll also botch routine plays.

b) Even if he was a Gold Glover on D, the MVP has basically become an award for offensive statistics. Those numbers are all that would get argued for, not how he plays defense.

c) Ortiz could've played 150 games at 1st and played shitty in the field, he'd still be right there in the MVP discussion.


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