Alex Rodriguez or David Ortiz?

HolmeZz · 10-08-2005, 12:23 PM

Big Papi.

WestCoastReggie · 10-08-2005, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

Big Papi.

I hope Big Papi, but if someone put a gun to me I would say A-Rod

HolmeZz · 10-08-2005, 12:36 PM

What if it was David Ortiz holding the gun?

Demonpenz · 10-08-2005, 12:42 PM

no dh should ever win the mvp

HolmeZz · 10-08-2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

no dh should ever win the mvp

It's not like ARod would be winning the MVP because of his defense.

JBucc · 10-08-2005, 01:01 PM

Andruw Jones should win both MVPs

OmahaChief · 10-08-2005, 01:16 PM

A-Rod all the way.

**Dunit35** · 10-08-2005, 03:39 PM

Id go with Ortiz even though he is a DH..cause I hate anyone or anything involved with the yankees..

Sully · 10-08-2005, 03:42 PM

Papi.
For my reasoning, refer to Bill Simmons' column in the latests "The Mag."

Calcountry · 10-08-2005, 03:44 PM

neither of these two fools were good enough to get their team out of LDS.

Arod still has a chance, but it doesn't look likely.

Start looking at some other teams for mvp, the red sux aren't going anywhere.

ChiefsFanatic · 10-08-2005, 10:54 PM

So what if he is a DH? Most kickers in the NFL score more points than anyone else on their teams. And they are only kickers.

Big Papi all the way. I would even take ManRam over A-Rod.

Halfcan · 10-09-2005, 01:43 AM

I DH for MVP, wouldn't suprise me since baseball is such a Puzzy sport anymore. Seriously MLB is worse than soccer. Who really gives a fuck???

CupidStunt · 10-09-2005, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

It's not like ARod would be winning the MVP because of his defense.

He plays gold-glove defense. Ortiz sits on the bench.

Not only is A-Rod the MVP, this isn't even a DEBATE. It's just not even close.

Rodriguez had by far the better year.

HolmeZz · 10-09-2005, 09:21 AM

a) ARod doesn't play 'gold glove' defense. He will make a nice play or two, but he'll also botch routine plays.

b) Even if he was a Gold Glover on D, the MVP has basically become an award for offensive statistics. Those numbers are all that would get argued for, not how he plays defense.

c) Ortiz could've played 150 games at 1st and played shitty in the field, he'd still be right there in the MVP discussion.

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Calcountry Shoot the tube Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $8721645	neither of these two fools were good enough to get their team out of LDS. Arod still has a chance, but it doesn't look likely. Start looking at some other teams for mvp, the red sux aren't going anywhere. __________________
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ChiefsFanatic DeadPunisher Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Blue Springs, MO. 64014 Casino cash: $3209205	So what if he is a DH? Most kickers in the NFL score more points than anyone else on their teams. And they are only kickers. Big Papi all the way. I would even take ManRam over A-Rod.
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HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	a) ARod doesn't play 'gold glove' defense. He will make a nice play or two, but he'll also botch routine plays. b) Even if he was a Gold Glover on D, the MVP has basically become an award for offensive statistics. Those numbers are all that would get argued for, not how he plays defense. c) Ortiz could've played 150 games at 1st and played shitty in the field, he'd still be right there in the MVP discussion.
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