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Originally Posted by Megatron96

Sure, fine. I mean, we can play "what if" with any/every game and project nearly any outcome we want to. For instance, "What if" McDermott didn't take over the defensive play-calling for the last two plays and shit his pants in the :13 second game?

In every game mistakes, bad plays, bad decisions happen, along with good ones (most of the time anyway). We've watched Pat make plenty of both over the years. Ditto every great team or player. It's just part of the game, right?

I think we'd be fools not to acknowledge that Josh has grown into an elite QB in his own right. He's not doing it the way Pat does it, maybe not how any QB has before, but he's become a real force, especially in the RZ. If he's playing just better than his average, he's a serious problem for 99% of defenses, regardless of where the ball is snapped.

But in the RZ, where he only has to run at most 20 yards, and his ability to just run over LBs/DBs at will, he's one of the best QBs in the league, that much seems certain.

You're not wrong but you're just not getting the hyperbole. He's a great QB. One of the greatest ever? Yeah, not yet.