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Old 03-16-2008, 11:47 AM   #2
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Second despite your first post was how people who like good reproduction of music are such ****ing jokes that crack you up so ****ing much. And despite youir second post that alternatively characterize me as a wife beater wearing redneck and an effete snob, I'll apologize if you took offense at the tone of my post.

Honestly, I didn't even notice that this was a 'Hamas Jenkins' post until I was halfway through my response. Then my thought was '****, this guy's gonna turn into some imagined, fever-dream, personal yuppy/hippy battle for the soul of eternity. Thanks for proving me wrong.

But your were wrong that 'self-professed audiophiles were participants' in any kind of definitive test. The very point is that 'they' won't take the test. For the most part, sure cables that meet a certain floor standard are fungible, and sure most of those qualities touted for exotic cables are bunkum.

And I addressed normalization and SACD/DVD-A because you remarked how crowing about 'digitization' cracks you up, which leaves a good deal of ambiguity. My point was that audiophiles don't 'crow' about GOOD digitization, be it high fidelity/high bitrate mastering like DSD underlying SACD, or non-normalized/non-compressed mastering by the studio.

I know you like to think of an audiophile as some hipster douchebag who doesn't know what he's listening to, but loves telling his hipster douchebag friends how expensive it was and why. But the sizeable contingent are simply music lovers, who patiently assemble a system with an eye and ear towards quality.
Oh really?

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/03/au..._hanger-2.html

Whether or not Monster Cables are worth it is a war that has raged since home theatre immemorial. A poster at Audioholics was put in a room with five fellow audiophiles, and a Martin Logan SL-3 speaker set at 75Db at 1000KHz playing a mix of "smooth, trio, easy listening jazz" that no one had heard before. In one corner, Monster 1000 speaker cables. In the other, four coat hangers twisted and soldered into a speaker cable.


Seven songs were played while the group was blindfolded and the cables swapped back and forth. Not only "after 5 tests, none could determine which was the Monster 1000 cable or the coat hanger wire," but no one knew a coat hanger was used in the first place.

Further, when music was played through the coat hanger wire, we were asked if what we heard sounded good to us. All agreed that what was heard sounded excellent, however, when A-B tests occured, it was impossible to determine which sounded best the majority of the time and which wire was in use.

It's possible these guys weren't super-hardcore audiophiles that might not be able to tell the difference, but it largely goes with what we've found in our own tests of Monster Cable: The lower end can perform just as well, though we don't really recommend re-wiring your home theatre after a firesale on wire hangers
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