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Milkman = OWNED

Originally Posted by milkman

The thing is that Turk is faster, stronger, and quicker.

He's learning on the job, and as you said, he has a higher ceiling.

With good coaching (I know, good luck with that on this team), he could probably be a 7-8 sack player, and he's much better as a run defender.

Hali is decent depth when we get a real RDE.

Originally Posted by milkman

This team will be better when they can get another starter at RDE, and let Hali settle in as the #3 DE in a rotation.

I think Turk has a much higher ceiling as the starter at LDE than Tamba.

Originally Posted by milkman

Hali is what he is.

He's a solid, unspectacular, LDE, who is better suited as a rotational type player.
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Originally Posted by milkman

Tamba Hali at OLB si going to be about every bit as successful as his move to RDE was last year.

Originally Posted by milkman

The guy is slow and lacks athleticism.

There's no way in hell he has the tools to play OLB in any scheme.

Originally Posted by milkman

He may be built for it, but he lacks the speed for it.

Hali has no place in a 34.

Originally Posted by milkman

The issues that many of us are discussing with Hali have very little to do with learning the position.

They have to do with the physical shortcomings that aren't fixable.

He's too slow and too unathletic to compete and succeed.

It won't matter if he has 2 games, 6 games, or 60 games.

Those are not correctable issues.

Originally Posted by milkman

Hali was better than expected, but he has a long way to go, and Andy Studebaker looks quicker, faster, more athletic, and seems to have adjusted far more qucikly to the transiton from DE than Hali, not only outshining Hali as a pass rusher, but far more disciplined in run defense, and more fluid in dropping back in pass coverage, though there's still more work there.

I won't be the least bit surprised if he replaces Hali in the starting lineup by the start of the season.