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DaWolf · 02-08-2005, 03:40 AM

New field could make us Super

JASON WHITLOCK

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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — We could be host to a Super Bowl. We really could.

If there's one thing I learned while suffering through a Super Bowl week in Jacksonville, it's that Kansas City has enough to entice NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue to bring sports' biggest showcase to our town.

All we need is a new stadium with a retractable roof and a few more hotels. We already have everything else, including the people with the necessary clout to broker such a deal.

Jaguars owner Wayne Weaver pretty much put the deal together that brought Super Bowl XXXIX to Jacksonville. Wayne Weaver is no Lamar Hunt.

If the Hunt family told Tagliabue that the promise of a Super Bowl would make it easier for Kansas Citians to build the Chiefs a new football palace, the commish would guarantee us a Super Bowl within the next 15 years. During his state-of-the-league address on Friday, Tagliabue mentioned Kansas City as a smaller market city that could play host to a future Super Bowl.

He obviously doesn't think Arrowhead Stadium could handle the game. Tagliabue has a great deal of respect for Kansas City as an important NFL market. The league is well-aware of KC's season-ticket base and football passion. It's important to the league that the NFL remains strong in Kansas City.

Tagliabue doesn't want to see an ugly, drawn-out fight for a new football stadium here. No one associated with the NFL wants to make any threats about the Chiefs possibly moving to Los Angeles. If a Super Bowl would make building a $500 million stadium easier on KC taxpayers, then I'm sure Tagliabue would be willing to do whatever he could to make it happen.

And with a little help from the Hunt family, Kansas City could get a small trinket of appreciation — a Super Bowl — from the league for building a new stadium.

Given Hunt's history and ties to the NFL, given the fact that he came up with the name “Super Bowl,” if Lamar Hunt asked the league to play a Super Bowl in his favorite NFL city, the league would bend over backward to do so. Super Bowl week in KC could be a celebration of Hunt's football legacy.

The reality is the league owes the Hunt family a Super Bowl. Wayne Weaver can get a Super Bowl, but Lamar Hunt can't? I don't think so. There's a reason the AFC championship trophy is named after Lamar Hunt. He's one of the 20 most influential and important people in the history of the league.

After Bistate II failed, it became obvious that we are going to be asked to build the Chiefs a new stadium. You can whine about the unfairness of it all. You can complain that the billionaire owners should finance their own playpens. And there's no question that the Hunts should ante up, but the reality is that KC taxpayers will have to finance a significant portion of a new stadium.

So let's get something a little extra out of it. Let's get a Super Bowl.

We can do it. Besides Florida weather, Jacksonville doesn't have one thing on Kansas City. And for much of Super Bowl week, the weather in Kansas City was actually better than the cold, rainy weather in Jacksonville.

Jacksonville had to have cruise ships dock near downtown just so it would have enough hotel accommodations for the week. Major, nighttime parties were held underneath tents in parks. Hooters was a destination spot. Out behind the media hotel, The Adams Mark, it looked as if Jacksonville was holding a weeklong county fair. Jacksonville is small time.

Right now, with The Plaza, River Market, Westport, 18th and Vine, the casinos and Gates Bar-B-Q, we have far more to offer than Jacksonville. By the time we add a new downtown arena and KC Live district, we'll feel like Las Vegas compared with Jacksonville.

And you know what? People still had a good time in Jacksonville. The celebrities still showed up and held parties. Snoop Dogg, John Travolta, Will Smith and all the other beautiful people attended the game. They'll all head up to icy and crime-ridden Detroit next year.

The location isn't all that important for a Super Bowl, particularly if the game isn't being played in New Orleans or San Diego. All we really need is a new stadium and for Lamar Hunt to request the game.

HolyHandgernade · 02-08-2005, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

I'm just trying to picture what KCI would look like trying to handle all the flights and passengers flying into KC if the Super Bowl was there, wouldn't be pretty IMO

I don't think KC has the infrastructure and hotels necessary to host a Super Bowl, and unlike Jacksonville they can't just bring in a bunch of cruise ships and make them makeshift hotels.

I'm an air traffic controler who works the airspace over San Diego and let me tell you, it was nuts! We had planes landing at Lindberg, Navy North Island, Montgomery, Gillespie and Palomar and Brown Field. KCI has a nice layout to handle increased traffic, but I think they lack the necessary amount of satellite airports to handle the amount of smaller air traffic.

After everybody left San Diego we had a five hour snap shot of departures out of the area which basically had three lines of airplanes eminating out of San Diego: One north to the Bay Area (the loser's trail) one to Tampa Bay (the winner's trail), and one towards New York (the money trail).

-HH

TEX · 02-08-2005, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

I thought this was about something else......

I think the Chiefs should put in one of those new grassy turf fields...forget what they are called. All the give of grass with the speed of turf! Just what our offense needs to get an advantage.

It's called "flubber."
I'd stick with the real stuff personally.

Wile_E_Coyote · 02-08-2005, 02:03 PM

What if KC builds a new stadium, gets a Super Bowl & it's a Raiders or Broncos vs Cardinals

htismaqe · 02-08-2005, 02:52 PM

Man, Petro was ALL OVER this today.

Whitlock apparently said something that set him off.

He said most of the stuff in this article was "manufactured" by that "fat tub of goo"...

BigChiefFan · 02-08-2005, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Man, Petro was ALL OVER this today.

Whitlock apparently said something that set him off.

He said most of the stuff in this article was "manufactured" by that "fat tub of goo"...

I thought Soren was all for a new stadium deal, too? Is somebody else stealing his thunder?

htismaqe · 02-08-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I thought Soren was all for a new stadium deal, too? Is somebody else stealing his thunder?

Petro is for a new stadium for the Royals and renovations to Arrowhead AFAIK.

Keitzman is basically saying the Chiefs can go F themselves, the Royals need a downtown stadium.

What Petro was so pissed about was what ZootedGranny brought up - Tagliabue didn't AT ALL say what Whitlock attributed to him...

BigChiefFan · 02-08-2005, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Petro is for a new stadium for the Royals and renovations to Arrowhead AFAIK.

Keitzman is basically saying the Chiefs can go F themselves, the Royals need a downtown stadium.

What Petro was so pissed about was what ZootedGranny brought up - Tagliabue didn't AT ALL say what Whitlock attributed to him...

Well, why on Earth would we give the team that doesn't sell as well a BRAND NEW stadium and the team that sells-out every game a revamp? Petro needs to pull his head out.

htismaqe · 02-08-2005, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Well, why on Earth would we give the team that doesn't sell as well a BRAND NEW stadium and the team that sells-out every game a revamp? Petro needs to pull his head out.

I would prefer they built new stadiums for both teams. Alot of people don't want to get rid of Arrowhead.

As for the Royals, the fact they don't sell well is WHY they need a new stadium...less seats + downtown = more successful team financially.

Hammock Parties · 02-08-2005, 06:26 PM

Does anyone else think the Chiefs should install the grassy turf stuff? In the past Lamar didn't want to do it because of Soccer....but he no longer owns the soccer team....of course they might still play at Arrowhead, I'm not sure.

Dayze · 02-08-2005, 06:59 PM

I'll take a Super Bowl win by the Chiefs in any other city, versus hosting a Super Bowl any day.

Getting kind of tired of owners who are multi-millionaires, but expect the taxpayers to foot most of the bill. While I certainly expect my tax dollars to be used towards venues, I think proportionately the owner's need to pony up a bit more. After all, the return on their investment will be huge nearly immediately.
Offering to pony up $25M on a $500M stadium is a bit skewed IMO.

...I'm probably just cynical.

DaWolf · 02-09-2005, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Keitzman is basically saying the Chiefs can go F themselves, the Royals need a downtown stadium.

I'm sure his longstanding feud with the Chiefs and his relationship with the Royals as their flagship station has nothing to do with his sentiments...

Archie F. Swin · 02-09-2005, 07:52 AM

Chances are Lamar will be gone by the time KC hosts the super bowl. But if the timing is right, KC will represent the AFC in its home stadium.

I hope Whitlock isn't suggesting Weaver is a hack. Wayne has to be the greatest pitch man in the history of the NFL. First of all, he somehow convinced the NFL to come to Jacksonville a month after they already selected a city in the southeast (Charlotte). Then he gets a Super Bowl in a city who's metro population is comparable West Palm Beach(FL), Oklahoma City or Louisville, Kentucky.

This man could sell a food processer to an Amish family!

02-08-2005, 03:40 AM
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	Whitlock: New field could make us Super... New field could make us Super JASON WHITLOCK link JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — We could be host to a Super Bowl. We really could. If there's one thing I learned while suffering through a Super Bowl week in Jacksonville, it's that Kansas City has enough to entice NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue to bring sports' biggest showcase to our town. All we need is a new stadium with a retractable roof and a few more hotels. We already have everything else, including the people with the necessary clout to broker such a deal. Jaguars owner Wayne Weaver pretty much put the deal together that brought Super Bowl XXXIX to Jacksonville. Wayne Weaver is no Lamar Hunt. If the Hunt family told Tagliabue that the promise of a Super Bowl would make it easier for Kansas Citians to build the Chiefs a new football palace, the commish would guarantee us a Super Bowl within the next 15 years. During his state-of-the-league address on Friday, Tagliabue mentioned Kansas City as a smaller market city that could play host to a future Super Bowl. He obviously doesn't think Arrowhead Stadium could handle the game. Tagliabue has a great deal of respect for Kansas City as an important NFL market. The league is well-aware of KC's season-ticket base and football passion. It's important to the league that the NFL remains strong in Kansas City. Tagliabue doesn't want to see an ugly, drawn-out fight for a new football stadium here. No one associated with the NFL wants to make any threats about the Chiefs possibly moving to Los Angeles. If a Super Bowl would make building a $500 million stadium easier on KC taxpayers, then I'm sure Tagliabue would be willing to do whatever he could to make it happen. And with a little help from the Hunt family, Kansas City could get a small trinket of appreciation — a Super Bowl — from the league for building a new stadium. Given Hunt's history and ties to the NFL, given the fact that he came up with the name “Super Bowl,” if Lamar Hunt asked the league to play a Super Bowl in his favorite NFL city, the league would bend over backward to do so. Super Bowl week in KC could be a celebration of Hunt's football legacy. The reality is the league owes the Hunt family a Super Bowl. Wayne Weaver can get a Super Bowl, but Lamar Hunt can't? I don't think so. There's a reason the AFC championship trophy is named after Lamar Hunt. He's one of the 20 most influential and important people in the history of the league. After Bistate II failed, it became obvious that we are going to be asked to build the Chiefs a new stadium. You can whine about the unfairness of it all. You can complain that the billionaire owners should finance their own playpens. And there's no question that the Hunts should ante up, but the reality is that KC taxpayers will have to finance a significant portion of a new stadium. So let's get something a little extra out of it. Let's get a Super Bowl. We can do it. Besides Florida weather, Jacksonville doesn't have one thing on Kansas City. And for much of Super Bowl week, the weather in Kansas City was actually better than the cold, rainy weather in Jacksonville. Jacksonville had to have cruise ships dock near downtown just so it would have enough hotel accommodations for the week. Major, nighttime parties were held underneath tents in parks. Hooters was a destination spot. Out behind the media hotel, The Adams Mark, it looked as if Jacksonville was holding a weeklong county fair. Jacksonville is small time. Right now, with The Plaza, River Market, Westport, 18th and Vine, the casinos and Gates Bar-B-Q, we have far more to offer than Jacksonville. By the time we add a new downtown arena and KC Live district, we'll feel like Las Vegas compared with Jacksonville. And you know what? People still had a good time in Jacksonville. The celebrities still showed up and held parties. Snoop Dogg, John Travolta, Will Smith and all the other beautiful people attended the game. They'll all head up to icy and crime-ridden Detroit next year. The location isn't all that important for a Super Bowl, particularly if the game isn't being played in New Orleans or San Diego. All we really need is a new stadium and for Lamar Hunt to request the game.
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Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1729358	I'll take a Super Bowl win by the Chiefs in any other city, versus hosting a Super Bowl any day. Getting kind of tired of owners who are multi-millionaires, but expect the taxpayers to foot most of the bill. While I certainly expect my tax dollars to be used towards venues, I think proportionately the owner's need to pony up a bit more. After all, the return on their investment will be huge nearly immediately. Offering to pony up $25M on a $500M stadium is a bit skewed IMO. ...I'm probably just cynical. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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Archie F. Swin This is the way Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Casino cash: $9975673	Chances are Lamar will be gone by the time KC hosts the super bowl. But if the timing is right, KC will represent the AFC in its home stadium. I hope Whitlock isn't suggesting Weaver is a hack. Wayne has to be the greatest pitch man in the history of the NFL. First of all, he somehow convinced the NFL to come to Jacksonville a month after they already selected a city in the southeast (Charlotte). Then he gets a Super Bowl in a city who's metro population is comparable West Palm Beach(FL), Oklahoma City or Louisville, Kentucky. This man could sell a food processer to an Amish family! __________________ "No Two People Will Do It The Same, You got It Down...When You Appear to Be In Pain!"
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