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03-23-2005, 03:57 PM | #61 | |
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Laz, I have provided ample material as to where I stand. If you can't figure out my stance based on what I've said, there's no point in me re-wording it over and over to help you understand.
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03-23-2005, 04:03 PM | #62 | |
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i was just waiting for you to actually say it most people have been trying to straddle the fence between religious ideology and their desire for personal freedoms. This is one instance where the two issues conflict. Most just refuse to make a choice of either and find rationalizations to not take a side.
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03-23-2005, 04:53 PM | #63 | |
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03-23-2005, 04:56 PM | #64 | |
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"According to court documents, doctors at North Kansas City diagnosed Sacaries-Barrios as comatose and suffering head injuries and a ruptured spleen. They placed him on a ventilator to assist his breathing and fed him through a tube. When the hospital transferred Sacaries-Barrios to Alpine North on Dec. 23, his condition had stabilized, but he was in a persistent vegetative state, incapable of conscious thought or behavior. A month later, a hospital physician said that his condition had not changed and that his long-term prognosis was poor, court records said. ....... Meanwhile, Sacaries-Barrios is making a remarkable recovery. By early February, he appeared to be regaining consciousness. By the end of the month he was out of bed and talking. He's thinking of returning home. “The man is coming back to life,” Chionuma said. [/b]" Obviously physicians are as in the dark regarding PVS as anyone else.
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03-23-2005, 05:09 PM | #65 | |
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I read somewhere that there are two different PVS's. Persistent vegetative state and permanent vegetative state. The distinction between the two was something like the length of time the person had been vegetative. For the first year or so, it is merely a persistent vegetative state and after that it is deemed to be permanent because the likelihood of any meaningful recovery drops as the condition continues. It makes sense to me, but I don't remember where I read it. In any event, if what I read is correct, your example is somewhat distinguishable from the TS case in that she has presumably been in this condition for 15 years whereas Sacaries-Barrios apparently began to recover well within a year. Just food for thought. I have no links.
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03-23-2005, 05:51 PM | #67 | |
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if a person wants to modify their body or end their life, is it societies decision or the persons?
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03-23-2005, 05:59 PM | #68 | |
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My answer is no.
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03-23-2005, 06:43 PM | #69 | |
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nevermind Russ, really it's not difficult ... yes or no .. if you don't want to answer then don't. if you want to drone on for hours and hours about neverending bullchit then go back to DC.
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It wasn't that difficult, was it?
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