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Old 02-18-2006, 09:56 PM  
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Hey about those MISSOURI STATE Bears!!! The ESPN men's basketball front page has them as "Mizzou ST". Man, bet you mizzou fans hate to see that. Seriously, they have a very good team this year. It IS a shame that little mizzou won't play the BEARS unless they are forced too. Well while da Bears are cuttin some net in the Big Dance maybe, just maybe little mizzou can grope for an nit bid.
HA ole mizzou had it coming, fighting the name change and doing everything it can to avoid playing little ole sw missouri state in the day!!!!!
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Old 02-19-2006, 08:56 PM   #46
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I remember 35-40 years ago the MVC was not to be toyed with. Their top teams were as good as the Big 8 top teams. WSU and Bradley in particular. It's not quite back there yet but it is eerily similar. I hope KU doesn't draw an MVC team in the first round. I think KU would pound them into submission with sheer size and depth but maybe not. We have 5 guys 6'8" or taller and 3 of them are 235# or more. And I saw a stat that showed KU's defense is among the best ever in limiting the other teams FG %age. I know I'm a homer but I do realize some of these "lesser" teams can beat us on a given day. I've seen it happen several times.

Didnt Bill Walton play for Bradley and then transfered to UCLA? I thought I heard that somewhere. Or maybe he played at Illinois, I cant remember.
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Old 02-19-2006, 08:58 PM   #47
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Missouri the state is never called Mizzou.

Mizzou is clearly assocciated with the University of Missouri-Columbia.

SMS or NWMSU, or CMSU, never called themselves southwest, northwest, or central mizzou state.

Our latest crop of noobs is going bonkers this year posting nonsense. NTTAWWT.
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Old 02-19-2006, 09:34 PM   #48
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Another thing to consider is that the Dance is different from the regular season with all the TV timeouts. Royboy used to say he had time to take a nap during tourney games. This hurts a "wear 'em out" team like Kansas was under Roy. Even so, I have a fond memory of the KU-Arkansas gameof the early '80's (I think). The Hogs motto was "40 minutes of hell". KU wore those poor bastards out. Oliver Miller, Arkansas' big center was so gassed he didn't even go down to the defensive end of the court during the final minutes. He just stood under their offensive goal and waited for the play to come back to him. Hilarious. Anyway, that is what KU has over the mid majors. Not only do they have better talent but a lot more of it. You just can't wear a KU team out. But they can certainly wear out a team without depth. Royboy ran you to death while Self beats you up. The results are the same.
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Old 02-19-2006, 10:50 PM   #49
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This year could end up being an outlier, too. It certainly isnt normal, though the MVC has been consistently better than most mid-major conferences. Scheduling a MVC team is a high-risk low-reward proposition for the Big XII in most years.
Creighton plays Nebraska every year and Iowa St. a lot. But outside of those 2 no one else in the Big 12 wants to play them.
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Old 02-19-2006, 10:57 PM   #50
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Creighton plays Nebraska every year and Iowa St. a lot. But outside of those 2 no one else in the Big 12 wants to play them.
KU ought to be able to play them once in a while, they could withstand a loss here and there to an MVC team without being fazed, but for most of the rest of the league, a win wont be rewarded, while a loss could be damaging to recruiting.
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Old 02-19-2006, 11:04 PM   #51
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I don't agree with that. I don't think any Mo. Valley team would win the Big 12, but they'd be more than competitive.
If Creighton had Funk, Dotzlier-sp ect. ect. and not been hit hard by injuries all year they'd be running away with the Big 12 not to mention the Mo Valley.
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If Creighton had Funk, Dotzlet ect. ect. and not been hit hard by injuries all year they'd be running away with the Big 12 not to mention the Mo Valley.
I think so as well. However, UNI wouldn't be far behind...
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I think so as well. However, UNI wouldn't be far behind...
As beat up as they are and how many guys are out for the year Altman has probably done his best job of coaching this year. They have no depth left on the bench. It's amazing they've got this far.
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Old 02-19-2006, 11:15 PM   #54
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Creighton plays Nebraska every year and Iowa St. a lot. But outside of those 2 no one else in the Big 12 wants to play them.
Southern Illinois is the same way I think... I looked at their schedule and they didn't really have any big games before conference, I doubt teams want to play them. They got in the tourney last year, won a game, then gave Oklahoma State all they could handle... Creighton was in it last year and lost on a last second play to an elite 8 West Virginia team.

Then in 2004 Northern Iowa took a Ga. Tech team that made it to the title game down to the wire. 2003 S. Illinois lost to Mizzou by 1 in the tourney... 2002 S. Illinois beat Texas Tech and Georgia, Creighton beat Florida. 2001 Indiana State took out Oklahoma. Really going back and looking at it they've done pretty well in the tourney against the Big XII, against everyone really, better than I'd expected.
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Southern Illinois is the same way I think... I looked at their schedule and they didn't really have any big games before conference, I doubt teams want to play them. They got in the tourney last year, won a game, then gave Oklahoma State all they could handle... Creighton was in it last year and lost on a last second play to an elite 8 West Virginia team.

Then in 2004 Northern Iowa took a Ga. Tech team that made it to the title game down to the wire. 2003 S. Illinois lost to Mizzou by 1 in the tourney... 2002 S. Illinois beat Texas Tech and Georgia, Creighton beat Florida. 2001 Indiana State took out Oklahoma. Really going back and looking at it they've done pretty well in the tourney against the Big XII, against everyone really, better than I'd expected.
Problem is the Mo Valley gets almost no exposure. Hence the Bracket Buster games the past few years.
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Hell the Creighton game last night didn't start till 11pm. That would have been a good game to see live. The crowd was very loud and more than likely liquored up last night by then.
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