Would you trade a 3rd for Huff? - Page 2

melbar · 03-20-2006, 02:04 PM

The draft calculator shows that moving to #9 would take aprox a 3rd.Do you think it would be worth it? I would even though we have many needs he is too good.

ct · 03-21-2006, 08:32 AM

I would not trade a 3rd for Huff. There are other safeties available in the 2nd or 3rd, that can still be difference makers. We need all 3 of these picks on solid prospects. Sadly though, I foresee, just as usual, both of those 2nd/3rd to be 'project' players.

Chiefnj · 03-21-2006, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

All of those things could be said about Huff as well. The great defenses in this league have a difference maker in the middle of the defensive backfield - a Sanders, a Reed, a Williams.

Great defenses have a pass rush.

melbar · 03-21-2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Huff is a safety, not a CB.

And if he could be had by just trading our 3rd, I'd do it in a heartbeat. That being said, we'd have to trade our 2nd AND 3rd to trade up that far.

He's being projected to play CB because of his speed.

melbar · 03-21-2006, 08:40 AM

I was using an online calculator at footballguys.com .

htismaqe · 03-21-2006, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by melbar

He's being projected to play CB because of his speed.

Some of the draftniks are saying that because of how fast he ran at the combine. Most scouts are still looking at him to play safety.

htismaqe · 03-21-2006, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

Great defenses have a pass rush.

I don't disagree, but a pass rush can come from all kinds of places. The idea that would should spend every pick on a "pass rush" when we have holes elsewhere will lead to the same result - failure.

RedThat · 03-21-2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I don't disagree, but a pass rush can come from all kinds of places. The idea that would should spend every pick on a "pass rush" when we have holes elsewhere will lead to the same result - failure.

Like where? Where else does KC have holes more bigger than the defensive line? Aside from adding another CB, or safety fine. You guys do realize a great D-Line can mask a terrible secondary.

I would be estatic if KC spent picks 1, 2, and 3 on Defensive lineman. Our pass rush is brutal. We have "zero" interior lineman. And aside from Jared Allen, nobody on this defense can rush the QB.

*Our defensive line is the worst in the NFL. Which pretty much explains for a terrible pass defense.

**Tribal Warfare** · 03-21-2006, 01:25 PM

Sorry coryt, I'll repost it

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Originally Posted by melbar[/b

]Would you trade a 3rd for Huff?

Why??

Do you want to mess up my dream draft?

1) Hali

2) Watson

3) Croyle

RedThat · 03-21-2006, 01:35 PM

I'd like to see the Chiefs mock draft like this:

-Rd 1 Broderick Bunkley DT, FSU

-Rd 2 Daryl Tapp DE, Virgnia Tech

-Rd 3 Dusty Dvoracek DT, Oklahoma

*Trade one of our later round draft picks to the Lions for Harrington to solidify our back QB spot.

**Munson** · 03-21-2006, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

I'd like to see the Chiefs mock draft like this:

-Rd 1 Broderick Bunkley DT, FSU

-Rd 2 Daryl Tapp DE, Virgnia Tech

-Rd 3 Dusty Dvoracek DT, Oklahoma

*Trade one of our later round draft picks to the Lions for Harrington to solidify our back QB spot.

I would be very happy if the Chiefs drafted those three players. But I don't think Carl could pull that off.

Mr. Laz · 03-21-2006, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Which is why it was stupid to let Eric Warfield go.

he said "talent" in the secondary ... what part of that applies to warfield

Chiefnj · 03-21-2006, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

I'd like to see the Chiefs mock draft like this:

-Rd 1 Broderick Bunkley DT, FSU

-Rd 2 Daryl Tapp DE, Virgnia Tech

-Rd 3 Dusty Dvoracek DT, Oklahoma

*Trade one of our later round draft picks to the Lions for Harrington to solidify our back QB spot.

I'd be very happy with rounds 1 and 2. I'd probably prefer a safety or WR in the 3rd round.

If you believe the hype Bunkley will be gone in the top 15.

melbar · 03-21-2006, 10:24 PM

I personally would love to see Williams, Avant , Dvoracek. Williams would be a real stretch , but...

melbar · 03-21-2006, 10:25 PM

I also love Huff as a Safety , either way.He's a smart guy and Safety is the "general" of our D.

htismaqe · 03-22-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull

Like where? Where else does KC have holes more bigger than the defensive line? Aside from adding another CB, or safety fine. You guys do realize a great D-Line can mask a terrible secondary.

I would be estatic if KC spent picks 1, 2, and 3 on Defensive lineman. Our pass rush is brutal. We have "zero" interior lineman. And aside from Jared Allen, nobody on this defense can rush the QB.

*Our defensive line is the worst in the NFL. Which pretty much explains for a terrible pass defense.

A pass rush can mask poor corners, especially in zone coverage.

But it CANNOT mask poor safeties.

03-20-2006, 02:04 PM
melbar Hillbilly Pharoh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Branson MO. Casino cash: $10004900	Would you trade a 3rd for Huff? The draft calculator shows that moving to #9 would take aprox a 3rd.Do you think it would be worth it? I would even though we have many needs he is too good.
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03-21-2006, 08:32 AM	#16
ct u b illian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: DooDah Casino cash: $10009436	I would not trade a 3rd for Huff. There are other safeties available in the 2nd or 3rd, that can still be difference makers. We need all 3 of these picks on solid prospects. Sadly though, I foresee, just as usual, both of those 2nd/3rd to be 'project' players.
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03-21-2006, 08:40 AM	#19
melbar Hillbilly Pharoh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Branson MO. Casino cash: $10004900	I was using an online calculator at footballguys.com . __________________
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03-21-2006, 01:35 PM	#24
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	I'd like to see the Chiefs mock draft like this: -Rd 1 Broderick Bunkley DT, FSU -Rd 2 Daryl Tapp DE, Virgnia Tech -Rd 3 Dusty Dvoracek DT, Oklahoma *Trade one of our later round draft picks to the Lions for Harrington to solidify our back QB spot.
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03-21-2006, 10:24 PM	#28
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03-21-2006, 10:25 PM	#29
melbar Hillbilly Pharoh Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Branson MO. Casino cash: $10004900	I also love Huff as a Safety , either way.He's a smart guy and Safety is the "general" of our D. __________________
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