Your Thoughts on the Cover 2 - Page 5

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-08-2007, 07:51 AM

I hate it.

I hated it in Tampa, and I hate it here. I can't imagine a worse scheme for any defensive coordinator to design. It's not a "scheme" at all, basically it says--go make a play. It's the easiest defense to exploit for weak-armed quarterbacks (due to the soft middle). The Cover 2 requires so much talent to work correctly that unless you are coaching the NFC Pro Bowl roster, you're fucked.

I'm also infuriated by the fact that we are implementing a system that does not fit the talents of our players. We don't have Cover 2 LBs, and we don't have Cover 2 DT's.

Look at the difference between the Bears D and the Philly D. Philly can switch out nearly anyone and their defense still gets it done. The Bears lose Tommy Harris and Mike Brown and now they are a sieve.

**HemiEd** · 01-09-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins

Did you see their run defense this year...at all? I mean, at all?

By your logic, shouldn't our D-Line have been awesome when Sims Freeman Downing and Siavii were here, since we had a #6 overall and two other 2nd rounders (since a ton of 1st rounders is apparently what matters judging from the tone of your post)??

You need to get with the Chiefs Planet lexicon. If the Chiefs draft them they are bad and over rated. If someone else drafts them they are great. (or something like that)

KCJohnny · 01-09-2007, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

You need to get with the Chiefs Planet lexicon. If the Chiefs draft them they are bad and over rated. If someone else drafts them they are great. (or something like that)

Its not a lexicon; its the PPL.

**ShortRoundChief** · 01-09-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i think it's curious that we picked the cover 2 defense because the key pieces of that scheme we haven't been able to draft ... the DT.

a powerful defensive line and rangy safeties ... the very things we lack and we pick that scheme to run.

ouch

hopefully Herm will be better at spotting talent along the defensive line.

What are you talking about?

There is no greater talent available then our own "Jelly Doughnut" Sims and Eric "overachiever for a year that leads him to guaranteed contract for life" Hicks

Chief Faithful · 01-09-2007, 03:34 PM

When the Chiefs run the Cover 2 as well as it was run in Tampa 5 years ago then I will love it.

I was encouraged by how the defense performed against the Colts. Put a couple top notch DT's on the line and the defense will be impressive.

**Easy 6** · 01-09-2007, 04:42 PM

There is nothing wrong with the Tampa2, even missing some key guys our 2 had manning rolling his eyes & talking to himself. The goal line stand we gave'em was brilliant.

This 2 we run is very close to being perfectly functional.

Allen - No words necessary

Hali - Guy was only a rook, just WAIT!!!

DJ - Things change DRASTICALLY without him.

Page - Needs to work on tackling, other than that he's well on his way.

Pollard - provided he continues to learn the scheme.

Law - He proved his worth in my eyes, just has to be used correctly.

Kawika - Laugh if you want, but Gun has faith in him for a reason. He's learning yet another system too. He's also quite fast for a MLB, anyone remember him running down the seam with moss. He will get better.

Surtain - My $$$ says he will be better in 07, he was learning a new scheme as well.

So when you break it down like that, the only glaring hole is at DT, raise your hand if you DONT think we will find one???

htismaqe · 01-09-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

Talent doesn't mean shit without the desire to utilize it. Ryan Sims is talented or he wouldn't be in the NFL, and he wouldn't have been playing in division 1. It's the desire to continue to improve that separates great players from fat worthless lazy pieces of shit like Sims

The Eagles have both talent AND desire. See Mike Patterson.

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01-08-2007, 07:51 AM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	Your Thoughts on the Cover 2 I hate it. I hated it in Tampa, and I hate it here. I can't imagine a worse scheme for any defensive coordinator to design. It's not a "scheme" at all, basically it says--go make a play. It's the easiest defense to exploit for weak-armed quarterbacks (due to the soft middle). The Cover 2 requires so much talent to work correctly that unless you are coaching the NFC Pro Bowl roster, you're fucked. I'm also infuriated by the fact that we are implementing a system that does not fit the talents of our players. We don't have Cover 2 LBs, and we don't have Cover 2 DT's. Look at the difference between the Bears D and the Philly D. Philly can switch out nearly anyone and their defense still gets it done. The Bears lose Tommy Harris and Mike Brown and now they are a sieve.
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01-09-2007, 03:34 PM	#64
Chief Faithful Predicting Chiefs Victory Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9966500	When the Chiefs run the Cover 2 as well as it was run in Tampa 5 years ago then I will love it. I was encouraged by how the defense performed against the Colts. Put a couple top notch DT's on the line and the defense will be impressive.
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01-09-2007, 04:42 PM	#65
Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $-262225	There is nothing wrong with the Tampa2, even missing some key guys our 2 had manning rolling his eyes & talking to himself. The goal line stand we gave'em was brilliant. This 2 we run is very close to being perfectly functional. Allen - No words necessary Hali - Guy was only a rook, just WAIT!!! DJ - Things change DRASTICALLY without him. Page - Needs to work on tackling, other than that he's well on his way. Pollard - provided he continues to learn the scheme. Law - He proved his worth in my eyes, just has to be used correctly. Kawika - Laugh if you want, but Gun has faith in him for a reason. He's learning yet another system too. He's also quite fast for a MLB, anyone remember him running down the seam with moss. He will get better. Surtain - My $$$ says he will be better in 07, he was learning a new scheme as well. So when you break it down like that, the only glaring hole is at DT, raise your hand if you DONT think we will find one???
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