Manhattan Kansas going after anything even resembling 12 different breeds.

[BIG_DADDY]

I got to pat myself on the back, some of you said I was crazy. WTF is going on out there in Kansas and Missouri? The mass majority of the country is throwing out BSL but you guys are catering to PETA and HSUS like nobody else by far. Fast track to the slaughter of man's best friend.

Sec. 6-25. Dangerous dogs.
(a) As used in this section, “dangerous dog” shall mean and include any of the following:
(1) Any dog, whether purebred or mix, which is more than ninety (90) days
old, and has the appearance and characteristics of any one or more of the
following breed(s):
i. American Pit Bull Terrier
ii. American Staffordshire Terrier
iii. Bull Terrier
iv. Staffordshire Bull Terrier
v. Argentine Dogo
vi. Cane Corso
vii. Dogue de Bordeaux
viii. Dogo Cubano
ix. Dogo Sardesco
x. Fila Brasileiro
xi. Perro de Presa Canario
xii. Wolf hybrids
(2) Any dog which has attacked a human being or domestic animal without
provocation; or
(3) Any dog, while at-large, that, without provocation, exhibits aggression or
combativeness toward a person or another domestic animal in an apparent
attack, whether or not said person or animal is actually attacked, bitten, or
otherwise physically injured; or
(4) Any dog kept or harbored primarily, or in part, for the purpose of dog
fighting, or any dog trained for dog fighting; or
(5) Any dog, not owned by a governmental or law enforcement unit, used
primarily to guard public or private property; or
(6) Any dog which is known to his keeper or harborer, or reasonably should
be known to his keeper or harborer, to have a propensity, tendency or
disposition to attack unprovoked, to cause injury or to otherwise endanger
the safety of human beings or domestic animals. It is hereby declared to

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Here is what I find amazing. Nobody gives a shit about the fact that they kill tons of Greyhounds every year so they can watch a race. Obviously they have no issues with commiting genocide against certain breeds killing massive amounts of dogs. But if two people decide to let their dogs fight their considered cruel barbaric assholes who should be put down? Where is the logic behind that? I wonder what the dog would have to say about all of this is he could talk.

you and i both know that greyhounds and other coursing dogs arent the money makers cause they dont eat people.
now once pitbulls are completely outcast theyll move on to the race type breeds in force along w/ rodeo. and after thats done theyll take on the bigboys,hunting and fishing.

[ILChief]

here's another one of these loving dogs:

http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6038756

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

whats your opinion on the amount of dogs that have to be started?Bulldogs are predisposed to animal aggression,but there is no magic trigger that turns them on.
id say minimum 90% have to be started by an older schooled out dog.
i think thats the part that most people friend or foe of the pitbull dont get.

I think so much of that has to do with enviroment. I brought Taz to the dog park until he was 6 months old and started to realize what being the alpha was all about. To this day he plays with any dog he doesn't find to be a threat. If he does find the other dog to be a threat though we have an immediate issue.

Speaking of Mayday stock and the pup I got for Jeff and his family I think that is a great example. All her brothers and sisters are now winning fights in the pit from what I understand. He says all of them had an automatic predisposition to turn on at about 6 mnonths if I recall correctly. All of them were raised as most fighting dogs are. I think he has 8 on his yard right now. THe female I got for my buddy though has been raised in his house being a pet and sleeps with his daughter. You would definately have to turn that dog on. She came up under Taz so they get along great. Same blood with different enviroments. You tell me, you think it makes a difference?

Some of them just turn on later as well, I think Taz was that way.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by ILChief

here's another one of these loving dogs:

http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6038756

62 million dogs in this country and found an article on one acting badly. Congratulations, we should get you a medal. I wonder what would happen if we judged the human race based upon these same numbers.

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

62 million dogs in this country and found an article on one acting badly. Congratulations, we should get you a medal. I wonder what would happen if we judged the human race based upon these same numbers.

Yeah, we should start banning any person who resembles the people who commit homicide anywhere in the country.

[ChiefFan31]

Good Thread BD. good posts and I have been reading some of the links.

I ain't going to judge you because you have friends that are into that stuff. A buddy of mine has a Staffordshire terrier that is a total ham. She is smaller than a full pit (im sure you know this) but she does intimidate folks (from her looks). I lived with her when my buddy was a roomate. No problems at all with that dog. I like it when I go over to his place, she goes crazy when she first sees me, but them calms down shorlty thereafter. I love how she will just tirelessy sit and watch out while we hang out and drink beer and what not. His neighborhood is not far from a bad one, I for one feel better with Samantha around. She is VERY loyal to her owner.

Anyways, what does BSL stand for? Bullshit law?

It's the crappy owners like others have stated in this thread, that is fuggin it up for the good owners. If you have the patience they are good dogs IMO.

[jynni]

Originally Posted by ChiefFan31

Anyways, what does BSL stand for? Bullshit law?

I think it stands for "Breed Specific Legislation" but BS Law sounds just as good.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by ChiefFan31

Good Thread BD. good posts and I have been reading some of the links.

I ain't going to judge you because you have friends that are into that stuff. A buddy of mine has a Staffordshire terrier that is a total ham. She is smaller than a full pit (im sure you know this) but she does intimidate folks (from her looks). I lived with her when my buddy was a roomate. No problems at all with that dog. I like it when I go over to his place, she goes crazy when she first sees me, but them calms down shorlty thereafter. I love how she will just tirelessy sit and watch out while we hang out and drink beer and what not. His neighborhood is not far from a bad one, I for one feel better with Samantha around. She is VERY loyal to her owner.

Anyways, what does BSL stand for? Bullshit law?

It's the crappy owners like others have stated in this thread, that is fuggin it up for the good owners. If you have the patience they are good dogs IMO.

Here is the deal. A dog that was developed as a fighting dog is an easy target for those who want to pass BSL. Problem is they are not human aggressive by nature. What they have had to do is add many breeds to the term pit bull in order to get the numbers up. Not only did they add many breeds they also added anything that might even resemble them. The SF Chronical has even named German Shepherds and Presa Canario's as pit bulls in dog attacks. By definition your buddies dog is considered a pit bull now. All these breeds are now considered pits "American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, Staffordshire Terriers and any dog determined to be a pit bull type." This includes many other breeds as well starting with American Bulldogs.

I think Wikipedia does a pretty damn good job of describing the breed without all the fear mongers input.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Pit_Bull_Terrier

What amazes me the most is that someone can then come along after all this and say that my point about them going after many breeds is baseless. Hell the very legislation we are talking about in this thread is aimed at 12 different breeds. Fairfield Iowa is any dog over 100 pounds. On top of saying it's baseless you actually have someone who will cosign the madness and nominate it for post of the year. That's what we're up against. Don't bother us with facts we are too busy selling fear. These compassionate genocide types are just too much. Then they don't want to be thrown in a group like PETA, OK.