NFL Primetime's take on our troubles - Page 4

bdeg · 10-08-2007, 02:39 PM

According to ESPN a lot of our problem is LJ. He looks complacent and "he's not stroking it in there like used to." They mentioned his new contract, too. Recommended benching him if that's the effort he gives.

Obviously it's not ALL him, but if you watch the plays he looks timid. He's not always HITTING holes. How responsible is LJ for our rushing game?

CoMoChief · 10-09-2007, 01:07 AM

When there aren't ANY holes for him there's no way you can be productive. It's bad enough that we don't have any holes for him. What's even worse is that this season I am seeing LJ getting tackled in the backfield more than the last 2 seasons combined.

Our running game is a SERIOUS problem. And the way Herm likes to play, if you can't run the football, then forget it you might as just well chalk it up for a loss because we aren't passing it to get back into the game because that's arena league shit.

Hammock Parties · 10-09-2007, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

That's another thing. What's with all these sh*tty swing passes to LJ while he's still in the backfield? Seems like we always call it when the opposing defense is in a zone, and it always goes for a loss. Just so many wasted plays checking down.

I hate to say it, but they are doing that because last year, LJ made guys miss when he caught swing passes. This year, he hasn't done that.

Come on, LJ!!!

**ShortRoundChief** · 10-09-2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Buehler brings up a good point. These guys CAN pass protect. Which begs the question, which RB is better in the draws/delays a la Holmes? Might be a good idea to give Bennett a try in spread formations and see if he can scat/juke some yardage. Other than that, we're hosed in the I-formation.

Among other things we are hosed in the I-formation due to the lack of a true fullback

RedThat · 10-09-2007, 01:52 AM

I think it's a combination of both poor run blocking by the line, and LJs attitude isn't helping either. Bad combination if you ask me?

He doesn't run with much authority like he were are used to seeing him doing. But I seriously think this offensive line needs to be retooled in the off-season.

We need a lot more size on that line. Some bigger, meaner, nastier guys without a question. Wiegmann should be gone, and welbourne and turley aren't the answer for our running game.

gta0012 · 10-09-2007, 05:44 AM

75% of our line isn't the answer.

bringbackmarty · 10-09-2007, 07:00 AM

Lj is soft, bennett is soft, the line is soft, the playcalling, blocking schemes, coaching all soft. our team thinks the field is a big cushy bed, and it's time for a nap.
Bennett sucked last year, and still sucks.

Mark M · 10-09-2007, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

... and he isn't bouncing outside when there's no hole for him to hit.

DING! DING! DING!

I can't blame him all that much since he hasn't exactly had to have tremendous vision in the past due to KC's pretty-darn-solid oline (and just outstanding his first year).

But time and again I've watched as he just plows into the backs of his blockers when there's 20 yards of open field just around the corner.

Maybe he's just not needed that vision and, thus, doesn't have it.

MM
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bkkcoh · 10-09-2007, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

According to ESPN a lot of our problem is LJ. He looks complacent and "he's not stroking it in there like used to." They mentioned his new contract, too. Recommended benching him if that's the effort he gives.

Obviously it's not ALL him, but if you watch the plays he looks timid. He's not always HITTING holes. How responsible is LJ for our rushing game?

When you are going up against a wall of defenders, I think most people would be hesistant. They need to find a way to make him successful. If it takes the pass to set up the run, then f'n do it. But find a way.....

It is extremely difficult for any rb to run against 8 - 9 man fronts.....

Brock · 10-09-2007, 08:41 AM

The offensive line is no worse than it was last year. Those guys are right, IMO. Larry isn't putting forth the effort that he has in the past.

Chiefnj2 · 10-09-2007, 08:52 AM

The line is much worse at run blocking this year. Welbourn is below average at this point in his career without the "B-12". It's a big step down from Shields even though Will had an off year in 2006.

The Colts established a gameplan to beat KC and everybody has copied it. The Chiefs baintrust haven't found a way to adjust yet.

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