NFL Draft If he is there, I would bet Peterson takes Chris Long - Page 2

**jjchieffan** · 04-25-2008, 04:57 PM

After reading this, and knowing Peterson, it is the logical choice.

Also remember this on Long: Gunther Cunningham considers him family. Gunther and Howie Long have a very strong relationship. Plus, Long’s agent is Marvin Demoff, a good friend of Carl Peterson and they share a connection with UCLA. Signability won’t be a problem with Long.

I found it in this story

Let the Picking Begin

This Saturday figures to be a very, very interesting day for the Chiefs and the team’s future. They have three of the 63 choices that will be used in the first day of the draft.

That’s three of the foundation blocks they are going to lay for the future of the franchise and its return to a position of AFC contender, not pretender.

The hard part of trying to guess who might make up that trio is this: the Chiefs have so many important needs, it’s hard to zero in on a single position.

Offensive tackle, cornerback, guard, center and now defensive end top the list. Some of those positions need more than one body.

Baring any more trading and with the NFL changes to the draft (just two rounds on the first day rather than three rounds) Saturday presents the opportunity to fill only three of those roster holes.

Here’s one man’s guess on what happens. Again, this is only a guess. Please, no wagering.

We know that OT Jake Long will be the 1st player taken; he’s already worked out a contract with Miami. It appears – one of those words that you’ll see a lot of in stories like this, appears, looks, might, could, possibly – that with the No. 2 pick, the St. Louis Rams are trying to decide between DT Glenn Dorsey and DE Chris Long. Management likes Long; the coaches like Dorsey.

With the third pick, Atlanta waits to see if the Rams take Dorsey. If they pass, then it looks like the Falcons will go with the LSU defender. If St. Louis drafts Dorsey, then where the Birds go remains a mystery. Possibly QB Matt Ryan.

At No. 4 it’s the Raiders and anything is possible when the final say belongs to Al Davis. Understand this: the relationship between Davis and Howie Long, Hall of Fame defensive end and the father of Chris Long, is not a close one. If Long was available, it would not be an automatic pick for Oakland. RB Darren McFadden makes the most sense, since he could pair with last year’s No. 1 choice JaMarcus Russell and give the Raiders a big jump on improving their offense.

Long, McFadden, DE Vernon Gholston, OT Ryan Clady; one of that group could end up going to the Raiders in that choice.

With the fifth pick, I believe the Chiefs will immediately draft Dorsey if he’s available or Chris Long if he’s there. Dorsey would simply be too good a player to pass up. Long would fill their need at defensive end. Also remember this on Long: Gunther Cunningham considers him family. Gunther and Howie Long have a very strong relationship. Plus, Long’s agent is Marvin Demoff, a good friend of Carl Peterson and they share a connection with UCLA. Signability won’t be a problem with Long.

If Dorsey and Long are gone, then the picture changes. They will probably consider Gholston, Clady and G-T Brandon Albert. This also could be the time they trade down. If Ryan, McFadden or Gholston are still available, there are teams that will start twitching. The Chiefs could probably drop a few spots and still have the chance to draft Clady or Albert.

At five, the likely candidates still available are Dorsey, Long, Albert, Gholston and Clady. It will be interesting to see who is still available to receive a ticket to Kansas City.

Where the Chiefs go with that first pick will play a part in where they go with the 17th choice they acquired from Minnesota in the Jared Allen trade. Given the talent that should be available at that time, there should be some options. Offensive tackle, cornerback and defensive end would all be likely considerations. But it all depends on who the Chiefs are able to get at No. 5. The perfect scenario would somehow see one of those choices at the fifth spot remaining on the board, but that’s probably wishful thinking.

Once the first cornerback goes off the board, somewhere between the 10th pick and the 15th choice, look for a run on that position. It always happens that way. Whether it’s Leodis McKelvin or Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie first, the other will soon follow as will Mike Jenkins and Aquib Talib. It will be interesting to see who’s available.

Then 18 picks later, the Chiefs will go again with the fourth pick in the second round. That’s where they will zero in on the positions they didn't get in round one.

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El Jefe · 04-25-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan

If Long is there, you have to take him. Period. I'll be happy with Long, Ellis, Gholston or Ryan and I will be breaking things and cussing if we take Clady, Albert or any other reach.

You know as bad as I want Gholston, Im with you as long as we dont reach at that pick I will be happy. Seriously the only color close to as good as Scarlet and Grey is Red and Gold, and we might have one who will have played in both.

Direckshun · 04-25-2008, 06:31 PM

Chris Long is as close to a guaranteed nonbust as there is.

I don't think he has Gholston's ceiling, but I wouldn't complain.

El Jefe · 04-25-2008, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Chris Long is as close to a guaranteed nonbust as there is.

I don't think he has Gholston's ceiling, but I wouldn't complain.

I just dont see the potential bust factor in Gholston, everyone says well he takes plays off and is hard to motivate, I say BS. At worst I see him putting in close to double digit sacks, but I see him being a multi-time Pro Bowler. They talk about some of the teams Gholston plays. Have you seen Chris Longs schedule, he plays in the ACC FOLKS!!!!!!He played against Duke, North Carolina, Wyoming, and Pitt, it's not like he was playing all the top tier teams either. 22 Career sacks, 14 in his senior year?

Molitoth · 04-25-2008, 06:49 PM

I will be happy with Long, Gholston, or Dorsey. If we even pick Albert or Ryan I will puke.

blueballs · 04-25-2008, 07:55 PM

he'll take Chris long alright
long and deep

Brock · 04-25-2008, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

The agents aren't a big deal Tom Condon has 4 of the top 6 guys this year and he's never had a problem with Carl.

You sure about that?

Mecca · 04-25-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

You sure about that?

I don't think so, he's Gonzalez agent. Well it's better than Carl is with alot of the other agents anyway.

B_Ambuehl · 04-25-2008, 10:56 PM

Sacks in college are harder to come by. Look at the numbers of any decent NFL sack artist and see how many sacks they got in college. 14 sacks in college is HUGE!

Mecca · 04-25-2008, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Sacks in college are harder to come by. Look at the numbers of any decent NFL sack artist and see how many sacks they got in college. 14 sacks in college is HUGE!

Gholston had 14 this year and 22.5 after the last 2 and people say he's inconsistent and takes plays off...

That's the point of why I bring it up, why is Long the high motor never stop guy and Gholston called lazy when his production is right up there?

**Anyong Bluth** · 04-25-2008, 11:02 PM

Condon and Carl are very good friends. That I know for a fact. and went to lunch w both of them a number of times.

**RNR** · 04-25-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by alanm

He won't be so the whole story is moot.

If he is and you guys pass I will be happy! I agree with the quote above.

04-25-2008, 04:57 PM
jjchieffan Supporter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highlandville, MO Casino cash: $-107752	If he is there, I would bet Peterson takes Chris Long After reading this, and knowing Peterson, it is the logical choice. Also remember this on Long: Gunther Cunningham considers him family. Gunther and Howie Long have a very strong relationship. Plus, Long’s agent is Marvin Demoff, a good friend of Carl Peterson and they share a connection with UCLA. Signability won’t be a problem with Long. I found it in this story Let the Picking Begin This Saturday figures to be a very, very interesting day for the Chiefs and the team’s future. They have three of the 63 choices that will be used in the first day of the draft. That’s three of the foundation blocks they are going to lay for the future of the franchise and its return to a position of AFC contender, not pretender. The hard part of trying to guess who might make up that trio is this: the Chiefs have so many important needs, it’s hard to zero in on a single position. Offensive tackle, cornerback, guard, center and now defensive end top the list. Some of those positions need more than one body. Baring any more trading and with the NFL changes to the draft (just two rounds on the first day rather than three rounds) Saturday presents the opportunity to fill only three of those roster holes. Here’s one man’s guess on what happens. Again, this is only a guess. Please, no wagering. We know that OT Jake Long will be the 1st player taken; he’s already worked out a contract with Miami. It appears – one of those words that you’ll see a lot of in stories like this, appears, looks, might, could, possibly – that with the No. 2 pick, the St. Louis Rams are trying to decide between DT Glenn Dorsey and DE Chris Long. Management likes Long; the coaches like Dorsey. With the third pick, Atlanta waits to see if the Rams take Dorsey. If they pass, then it looks like the Falcons will go with the LSU defender. If St. Louis drafts Dorsey, then where the Birds go remains a mystery. Possibly QB Matt Ryan. At No. 4 it’s the Raiders and anything is possible when the final say belongs to Al Davis. Understand this: the relationship between Davis and Howie Long, Hall of Fame defensive end and the father of Chris Long, is not a close one. If Long was available, it would not be an automatic pick for Oakland. RB Darren McFadden makes the most sense, since he could pair with last year’s No. 1 choice JaMarcus Russell and give the Raiders a big jump on improving their offense. Long, McFadden, DE Vernon Gholston, OT Ryan Clady; one of that group could end up going to the Raiders in that choice. With the fifth pick, I believe the Chiefs will immediately draft Dorsey if he’s available or Chris Long if he’s there. Dorsey would simply be too good a player to pass up. Long would fill their need at defensive end. Also remember this on Long: Gunther Cunningham considers him family. Gunther and Howie Long have a very strong relationship. Plus, Long’s agent is Marvin Demoff, a good friend of Carl Peterson and they share a connection with UCLA. Signability won’t be a problem with Long. If Dorsey and Long are gone, then the picture changes. They will probably consider Gholston, Clady and G-T Brandon Albert. This also could be the time they trade down. If Ryan, McFadden or Gholston are still available, there are teams that will start twitching. The Chiefs could probably drop a few spots and still have the chance to draft Clady or Albert. At five, the likely candidates still available are Dorsey, Long, Albert, Gholston and Clady. It will be interesting to see who is still available to receive a ticket to Kansas City. Where the Chiefs go with that first pick will play a part in where they go with the 17th choice they acquired from Minnesota in the Jared Allen trade. Given the talent that should be available at that time, there should be some options. Offensive tackle, cornerback and defensive end would all be likely considerations. But it all depends on who the Chiefs are able to get at No. 5. The perfect scenario would somehow see one of those choices at the fifth spot remaining on the board, but that’s probably wishful thinking. Once the first cornerback goes off the board, somewhere between the 10th pick and the 15th choice, look for a run on that position. It always happens that way. Whether it’s Leodis McKelvin or Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie first, the other will soon follow as will Mike Jenkins and Aquib Talib. It will be interesting to see who’s available. Then 18 picks later, the Chiefs will go again with the fourth pick in the second round. That’s where they will zero in on the positions they didn't get in round one. http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...ry/589398.html
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04-25-2008, 06:31 PM	#17
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