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Old 09-23-2008, 01:23 PM  
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Who is to blame for the Chiefs Run Defense
Is it the D tackles, D ends, linebackers, schemes? What is it?
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:42 PM   #31
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according to Gretz today, it's make or break this season.
Yeah, but according to Mr. shaneo69, Carl is on the record as saying that he might come back which is the exact opposite of what Gretz said he said. And if Gretz is wrong about that, he could be wrong about Herm and everything else.

This is kind of depressing.

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Old 09-23-2008, 05:48 PM   #32
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Yeah, but according to Mr. shaneo69, Carl is on the record as saying that he might come back
I like to see the link when Carl said that
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:55 PM   #33
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The breakdown was predictable. Last year, in games that Allen was not in the backfield all day long, our D was awful. Allen's play-making ability hid the fact that we still appear to run the headless chicken defense.
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Old 09-23-2008, 06:11 PM   #34
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I like to see the link when Carl said that
Here you go, fuggin dikhead...


Peterson also hinted at possibly staying on with the Chiefs after his contract expires.

“My thought was, when I signed this last contract that takes me through the ’09 season (was) that I would be stepping away from the Chiefs at that season,” he said. “Now, can it happen sooner? Anything can happen sooner. Can it happen later? That’s always something that’s a consideration.”

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/761067-p4.html
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Old 09-23-2008, 06:21 PM   #35
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Peterson also hinted at possibly staying on with the Chiefs after his contract expires.

“My thought was, when I signed this last contract that takes me through the ’09 season (was) that I would be stepping away from the Chiefs at that season,” he said. “Now, can it happen sooner? Anything can happen sooner. Can it happen later? That’s always something that’s a consideration.”

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/761067-p4.html


sounds like groundless hope in his eyes.
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Old 09-23-2008, 07:07 PM   #36
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In a blistering speech before the United Nations General Assembly, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said the "Chiefs' empire in the NFL is reaching the end of its road."
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Old 09-23-2008, 07:10 PM   #37
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Is it the D tackles, D ends, linebackers, schemes? What is it?
Well since you asked....

Now it has been pointed out that in the cover 2 you need quick, pass rushing DTs to get pressure from all 4 D-linemen but give me two huge 340+ fatties any day of the week.

They rarely can be moved and require a lot of double teams. a la the Raven's old D with Tony Siragusa & Sam Adams.

With Tank Tyler at 6'2 306 and Glenn Dorsey at 6'1 297, I've got to question their ability to hold up against mauling 320+ Guards which are common in today's NFL.

Just my opinion..... Guess it doesn't help that our LBers are playing horrible either though.
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Old 09-23-2008, 07:42 PM   #38
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Old 09-23-2008, 07:53 PM   #39
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sounds like groundless hope in his eyes.
Groundless? He's been here at least 10 years longer than could be reasonably expected.
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:20 PM   #40
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Groundless? He's been here at least 10 years longer than could be reasonably expected.
Well, If Clark's press runs were any way accurate concerning any type o progress then Carl/Herm's ass is grass if their isn't any improvement.
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:31 PM   #41
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My current state of mind is telling me that it can no longer be about the talent or the players we have. It has to be about the coaching.

If it's not about the coaching....and we truly have had the worst talent on the defensive side of the ball for almost 10 years now.....Then Stevie Wonder must be our director of scouting/player personnel.
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Old 09-23-2008, 08:42 PM   #42
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My current state of mind is telling me that it can no longer be about the talent or the players we have. It has to be about the coaching.

If it's not about the coaching....and we truly have had the worst talent on the defensive side of the ball for almost 10 years now.....Then Stevie Wonder must be our director of scouting/player personnel.
I just went back and took a look at our rosters from 2005 on, Mr. DJJasonp. It's absolutely mind boggling how many linebackers we've brought in during that period. It's over 20. Over 20 linebackers have come and gone in 4 years and we still don't have a trio that can get the job done. Some of those guys were brought on for depth or the PS or ST, no doubt, but most of them played or were backups. Bell, Fox, Barber, Mitchell, the list goes on and on. That boggles.

We cannot seem to sort out who needs to play linebacker or where to find them. Plus, you can't tell me that DJ came out of college without the potential to be a very solid player in this league. It's coaching. Or player evaluation. Or something along those lines. It has to be.

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