Chiefs Think Herm planned this??? - Page 2

talastan · 10-28-2008, 10:38 AM

With the crappy state of the O-line, the fact that we weren't throwing downfield much at all prior to this last Sunday, and the preseason reports that Herm liked Thigpen more than Croyle could the Germinator have planned this scenario for Croyle and Hutard getting injured to put Thigpen in an unquestionable position to lead the offense. It sure seemed like the Germ and Chan suddenly "improved" the play calling all of a sudden(minus the three runs up the butt that lost the game). Just curious...

**Bob Dole** · 10-28-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Fair enough, but look at his DL other than a supposely cant miss pick with Dorsey, the talent level just really isnt there. Maybe it comes back to coaching like you stated. Which we are seriously lacking.

It's not like every other team in the country thought Dorsey was crap. Dorsey FELL to us.

The kid has talent. Anyone calling him a bust after half a season playing under these assclowns, is just as big an assclown.

blueballs · 10-28-2008, 11:14 AM

McIntosh was the fall guy

smittysbar · 10-28-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by talastan

With the crappy state of the O-line, the fact that we weren't throwing downfield much at all prior to this last Sunday, and the preseason reports that Herm liked Thigpen more than Croyle could the Germinator have planned this scenario for Croyle and Hutard getting injured to put Thigpen in an unquestionable position to lead the offense. It sure seemed like the Germ and Chan suddenly "improved" the play calling all of a sudden(minus the three runs up the butt that lost the game). Just curious...

Dumb Post.

And what brings you to believe Herm liked Pigpen more than Croyle.

talastan · 10-28-2008, 11:38 AM

I can't remember the link or thread off the bat, but wasn't there a report from NFL.com Adam Scheffler that the staff thought Thigpen looked more promising and better than Croyle during TC this last summer? I'll try and see if I can dig it up. I know it is as solid a theory as quicksand, I'm just trying to make sense as to why in the hell the coaching and offensive philosophy changed suddenly from RRPP to the spread formation that helped us actually score some points....

FAX · 10-28-2008, 11:38 AM

As much as I'd like to believe that Herm could think three steps ahead, I just can't.

He is a believer in "tenets" that he has absorbed and adopted during his time in the league. Why? Because he can't think for himself, that's why.

Herm can win when the stars align, we get lucky, or the enemy hands us the game. Otherwise, it's keep the game tight if you can and either; A) Pull out a victory at the end or B) Drop trou and let the opponent have at your ass with a dull cleaver.

FAX

Deberg_1990 · 10-28-2008, 11:42 AM

Yes, Herm planned it all out to be 1-15 over the past year to sabotage Carl.

talastan · 10-28-2008, 11:43 AM

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthrea...Thigpen+croyle
Here is the report I was refering to. I guess he (Adam) was just saying that Thigpen was going to give Croyle some competetion for the starting position.

crazycoffey · 10-28-2008, 11:51 AM

You're more bored than the rest of us, aren't you?

talastan · 10-28-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

You're more bored than the rest of us, aren't you?

Hell yes, I'm sitting at work trying to find a way to pass the time.

StcChief · 10-28-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I have almost made myself believe that this team wanted to fail this season. No competent coach would think he would succeed, and the only way you can get away with failing like this, is if the owner is on board. Which I think he is. They want a QB first round. They want to pick high. They saw what we did this year in the draft, and said "another one of those, and we could be in business".

that's believable, convince Clark Hunt that it takes two drafts to really get somewhere.

Throw in the LJ mess and get picks for him. Make sure Gonzo get's plenty of catches now show he's viable trade for more picks.

PastorMikH · 10-28-2008, 12:36 PM

Herm plans to let two QBs get hurt, end their season, possibly a career just so he can start Thigpen? If Herm wanted to start Thigpen, all he had to do was brag about what he'd seen from the kid like he did with Croyle, then start him.

I'm thinking the changes in gameplan are more the result of the outcome of the season so far and the affects that outcome has had on the coaching staff and higher ups. Herm is either trying to save his job by opening it up or he was told by higher ups to do the same. What we saw with the O up until last week was what Herm's offense tends to look like (passive, run first mentality). What we saw Sunday looked more like what Gailey would run. I'm guessing either Herm has given Gailey more control or someone higher up told Herm to back off the O.

TEX · 10-28-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

no. Herm wouldve just put Thigpen 2nd string to avoid even playing Hutard to begin the season. But I know Herm has an eye for good talent. no questioning his scouting abilities, just his coaching sucks

The longer he's here - the myth is exposed. Question everything.

TEX · 10-28-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I have almost made myself believe that this team wanted to fail this season. No competent coach would think he would succeed, and the only way you can get away with failing like this, is if the owner is on board. Which I think he is. They want a QB first round. They want to pick high. They saw what we did this year in the draft, and said "another one of those, and we could be in business".

Bingo! This is exactly why Herm and Carl will be back next year.

ChiefsFanatic · 10-28-2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

Herm isn't that smart

You could really use this as a stock reply to anything Herm related.

10-28-2008, 10:38 AM
talastan Manning, we're coming for you! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Springfield, Mo Casino cash: $10004950	Think Herm planned this??? With the crappy state of the O-line, the fact that we weren't throwing downfield much at all prior to this last Sunday, and the preseason reports that Herm liked Thigpen more than Croyle could the Germinator have planned this scenario for Croyle and Hutard getting injured to put Thigpen in an unquestionable position to lead the offense. It sure seemed like the Germ and Chan suddenly "improved" the play calling all of a sudden(minus the three runs up the butt that lost the game). Just curious...
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talastan Manning, we're coming for you! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Springfield, Mo Casino cash: $10004950	I can't remember the link or thread off the bat, but wasn't there a report from NFL.com Adam Scheffler that the staff thought Thigpen looked more promising and better than Croyle during TC this last summer? I'll try and see if I can dig it up. I know it is as solid a theory as quicksand, I'm just trying to make sense as to why in the hell the coaching and offensive philosophy changed suddenly from RRPP to the spread formation that helped us actually score some points.... __________________ Can we please just draft AND DEVELOP a QB - est. since 1983 Check out my band: Truett and the Traitors
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FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	As much as I'd like to believe that Herm could think three steps ahead, I just can't. He is a believer in "tenets" that he has absorbed and adopted during his time in the league. Why? Because he can't think for himself, that's why. Herm can win when the stars align, we get lucky, or the enemy hands us the game. Otherwise, it's keep the game tight if you can and either; A) Pull out a victory at the end or B) Drop trou and let the opponent have at your ass with a dull cleaver. FAX
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10-28-2008, 11:43 AM	#22
talastan Manning, we're coming for you! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Springfield, Mo Casino cash: $10004950	http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthrea...Thigpen+croyle Here is the report I was refering to. I guess he (Adam) was just saying that Thigpen was going to give Croyle some competetion for the starting position. __________________ Can we please just draft AND DEVELOP a QB - est. since 1983 Check out my band: Truett and the Traitors
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10-28-2008, 11:51 AM	#23
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10-28-2008, 12:36 PM	#26
PastorMikH Will KC ever be better? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Land of Red Dirt & Necks Casino cash: $9905087	Herm plans to let two QBs get hurt, end their season, possibly a career just so he can start Thigpen? If Herm wanted to start Thigpen, all he had to do was brag about what he'd seen from the kid like he did with Croyle, then start him. I'm thinking the changes in gameplan are more the result of the outcome of the season so far and the affects that outcome has had on the coaching staff and higher ups. Herm is either trying to save his job by opening it up or he was told by higher ups to do the same. What we saw with the O up until last week was what Herm's offense tends to look like (passive, run first mentality). What we saw Sunday looked more like what Gailey would run. I'm guessing either Herm has given Gailey more control or someone higher up told Herm to back off the O. __________________
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