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Old 12-22-2008, 09:29 AM  
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Quote from Dolphins CB about Chiefs...this should be fun
Dolphins cornerback Andre Goodman

"I thought at 10-0, and this is me being me having played on some bad teams, at 10-0 I thought they were going to fold," said Goodman, who spent his first four years with the Detroit Lions. "But nothing on film said that. Those guys have been competing week in and week out and they've been so close in so many games, it just so happened they came out on the short end just like today. It shows you the character of that team and the character of that coach. They're going to compete until the end and they gave us their best today but our offense came up big."

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Old 12-22-2008, 11:24 AM   #16
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Name an opposing team or player that wants Herm or Gun fired? Of course these people love Herm. Guarenteed win!
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:24 AM   #17
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I do.

Marty motivated wins. Regular season only, but he got at least that much done.

Herm's done squat HERE. Here is all that matters to me. Here under Herm is every year worse than the one before.
I don't think that was what Marty did. I think Marty's greatest strength as a coach was instilling toughness and discipline in his players and coaching the most out of them. That's what good coaches do, it goes far beyond motivation. Hell, the players rolled their eyes at some of his corny speeches.

Herm by all accounts is a good motivator, he can get his guys up for a game and get them to run through a brick wall for him. Hell, they're still singing his praises in the locker room, and he's a popular guy with the players around the league. But he's soft, he surrounds himself with bad coaches, he makes bad strategic calls, and he can't get his players to play disciplined and maintain their assignments week in and week out, as evidenced by the big plays we keep giving up.
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:09 PM   #18
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:11 PM   #19
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Why is it when you suck in this market you'll get defended more than someone who won games?

I don't think Vermiel was great but he got a ton more results than Herm has and people talk like he was a babbling monkey yet Herm isn't "that bad".
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:12 PM   #20
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Why is it when you suck in this market you'll get defended more than someone who won games?

I don't think Vermiel was great but he got a ton more results than Herm has and people talk like he was a babbling monkey yet Herm isn't "that bad".
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:13 PM   #21
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Why is it when you suck in this market you'll get defended more than someone who won games?

I don't think Vermiel was great but he got a ton more results than Herm has and people talk like he was a babbling monkey yet Herm isn't "that bad".
I agree. After Gun and Martyball, DV was a breath of fresh air. If our D could have just been mediocre, we would have had a shot at a super bowl.
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:14 PM   #22
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If anything the fact that the Chiefs are playing half their team out of position is enough of a reason to fire that whole unit out there.

They've been asking Bernard Pollard to do shit he can't do for 3 years now.
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:16 PM   #23
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You know if teams were measured on their ability to not quit instead of wins & losses I guess we'd be pretty good huh?

BFD on not quitting. That just means we suck even more considering we haven't quit and have only 2 wins to show for it.
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:27 PM   #24
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Well, you do have to admit, there haven't been too many times in which they have quit this year. That is a great quality to have in a team.

It would have been nice if they would have have some victories, instead of the moral type this year.
If you have a quality team and don't win, the only people that I could think to blame would be the coaching.
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Old 12-22-2008, 12:33 PM   #25
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If you have a quality team and don't win, the only people that I could think to blame would be the coaching.
Yep.

It's so bad, most people can't really even measure how bad it is. A great coach, coords, and specialty coaches can make all the difference in the world.
If we get the right kind, I'd wager we'll see massive improvement and very quickly at that.
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