Chiefs Another terrible head coaching idea... please flame away - Page 4

**RealSNR** · 12-23-2008, 12:37 PM

I'm going to get verbally raped over this. But that's cool, because there's a small chance that it might be a good idea.

Okay, how about this? Ready? Okay.

Brian Billick.

We bring in Brian Billick as head coach. I thnk Marvin Lewis gets canned in Cincy and he comes back as a defensive coordinator. The GM works with Billick to find an offensive coordinator that doesn't suck (perhaps Chan sticks on) and this time Billick works better with the offense now that he's not inheriting a defense-first team (or an offense-first team for that matter, but still...)

Is it unlikely? Yes. Is it stupid? Maybe, but leaning towards yes. Is it stupid to even talk about such a scenario where such big ego coaches would voluntarily get together on a crap team to try to repeat what they had 8 years ago and left for selfish glory? I think so.

But could it work? You know what, I think it would.

KCChiefsMan · 12-24-2008, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Thought Elvis Grbac was good.

oooohh ya. I totally forgot about that

KCJohnny · 12-24-2008, 08:25 AM

I met BB in Baghdad in February. Class guy, good human being, a football guru. I would have been totally happy if Carl had brought BB in here instead of Herm. If Herm goes, BB is welcome in my book.

**dirk digler** · 12-24-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I don't have a ton of respect for Billick's offensive acumen despite the noise he made in Minnesota. Any offensive coordinator who had Moss on their team at that point in time was going to be hailed as an offensive genius. He hasn't looked like such a wizard without the benefit of just being able to throw up junk to Moss. Plus, he had Priest Holmes on his team, and let him get away. I don't have to tell anyone here how stupid that move was. And even after all that, anyone can see that without Marvin Lewis, he hasn't been able to get anything accomplished.

ALL THAT SAID...

Billick possesses a quality that works as a head coach. I think as long as a team can get him players, and coordinators who are cunning as they are competent, I think Billick would be able to put together a team that can be competitive. And if all the stars aligned just right, perhaps even a Super Bowl winner...

I wouldn't want to give the guy any GM power though, and I'm betting that he'd want it.

I agree. The Raven's offense under Billick was horrible and they tried alot of different QB's and only Dilfer for 1 season and McNair for 1 season were any good.

RippedmyFlesh · 12-24-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

The only problem with Billick for me is that he was hailed as this offensive genius before coming to Baltimore, and their offense was awful the whole time he was there. The defense won his that Super Bowl.

Doesn't it seem like that happens alot?
Lewis was going to fix the bengals defense too how did that work out?
I think coaches get too much credit it's the players not the coaches that get the job done.

**doomy3** · 12-24-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

Doesn't it seem like that happens alot?
Lewis was going to fix the bengals defense too how did that work out?
I think coaches get too much credit it's the players not the coaches that get the job done.

Agree 100%. They also get too much blame....

It all comes down to a good GM and player personelle IMO

DeepPurple · 12-24-2008, 01:10 PM

I read on another board that they are marketing the package of Billick as HC and Mike Nolan as DC, I think that would be a good fit for KC. I don't believe the Bengals are letting go of Marvin Lewis.

The positives are Billick will seem like a breath of fresh air, he did in Baltimore back in 1999 when he started, won Super Bowl XXXV his second season. However, after nine seasons, kind of the same as you see now with Andy Reid in Philly after 10 seasons, he wore out his welcome. He's coaches somewhat similiar to Marty-ball, plays conservative with 'not to lose' playcalling and will try to sit on the lead when he gets ahead.

The negatives are, he isn't the greatest at judging talent. After winning the Super Bowl, I never forgave Billick for not bringing back Trent Dilfer and we endured Elvis Grbac, Jeff Blake, Anthony Wright and first round pick Kyle Boller. Priest Holmes played fantastic whenever he touched the ball for four years, instead Billick drafted Jamal Lewis and let Priest leave. Lewis was good, but not versatile with the pass and had injury and drug problems.

Now with Billick you'll get a guy who has nine years HC experience, all in the AFC. He's had a chance to take a step-back and watch for a year while working as a commentator for Fox. It also seems that KC is in about the same position the Ravens were in 1999. Billick was replacing an older established coach, Ted Marcabroda, the Ravens of '96-98 scored a lot of points, especially with QB Vinny Testeverde, but couldn't stop the other team from scoring.

12-23-2008, 12:37 PM
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1524792	Another terrible head coaching idea... please flame away I'm going to get verbally raped over this. But that's cool, because there's a small chance that it might be a good idea. Okay, how about this? Ready? Okay. Brian Billick. We bring in Brian Billick as head coach. I thnk Marvin Lewis gets canned in Cincy and he comes back as a defensive coordinator. The GM works with Billick to find an offensive coordinator that doesn't suck (perhaps Chan sticks on) and this time Billick works better with the offense now that he's not inheriting a defense-first team (or an offense-first team for that matter, but still...) Is it unlikely? Yes. Is it stupid? Maybe, but leaning towards yes. Is it stupid to even talk about such a scenario where such big ego coaches would voluntarily get together on a crap team to try to repeat what they had 8 years ago and left for selfish glory? I think so. But could it work? You know what, I think it would.
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KCJohnny Blind, deceived homer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Maryland, USA Casino cash: $10004900	I met BB in Baghdad in February. Class guy, good human being, a football guru. I would have been totally happy if Carl had brought BB in here instead of Herm. If Herm goes, BB is welcome in my book. __________________
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12-24-2008, 01:10 PM	#51
DeepPurple I could of gone pro Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Villages, Florida Casino cash: $10005676	I read on another board that they are marketing the package of Billick as HC and Mike Nolan as DC, I think that would be a good fit for KC. I don't believe the Bengals are letting go of Marvin Lewis. The positives are Billick will seem like a breath of fresh air, he did in Baltimore back in 1999 when he started, won Super Bowl XXXV his second season. However, after nine seasons, kind of the same as you see now with Andy Reid in Philly after 10 seasons, he wore out his welcome. He's coaches somewhat similiar to Marty-ball, plays conservative with 'not to lose' playcalling and will try to sit on the lead when he gets ahead. The negatives are, he isn't the greatest at judging talent. After winning the Super Bowl, I never forgave Billick for not bringing back Trent Dilfer and we endured Elvis Grbac, Jeff Blake, Anthony Wright and first round pick Kyle Boller. Priest Holmes played fantastic whenever he touched the ball for four years, instead Billick drafted Jamal Lewis and let Priest leave. Lewis was good, but not versatile with the pass and had injury and drug problems. Now with Billick you'll get a guy who has nine years HC experience, all in the AFC. He's had a chance to take a step-back and watch for a year while working as a commentator for Fox. It also seems that KC is in about the same position the Ravens were in 1999. Billick was replacing an older established coach, Ted Marcabroda, the Ravens of '96-98 scored a lot of points, especially with QB Vinny Testeverde, but couldn't stop the other team from scoring.
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