Missed this comment from Clark on QBs

[the Talking Can]

just replayed it on 810, from petro interview

Clark talked about the fact that the Patriots drafted a QB almost every year, and went on to say "I'm sure Scott Pioli's teams will draft a QB every year...and we'll hit on one of them and that will be our franchise QB..."


2 obvious points:

1. Clark gets it - we have to have a QB, and we have to draft QBs to find the right one...doesn't mean we'll take one at #3, but it is a clear change from Carl...

2. Thigpen is not our franchise QB

[bkkcoh]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

If Stafford or Sanchez is there you take them. End of Story. They are as close to sure fire QBs we're gonna get a shot at. Chances are we will not be drafting this high next season. Grab them when you have the opportunity, because chances are we won't get another one.

Agreed. I would prefer Sanchez over Stafford. But if by chance those guys are off the board, don't reach and take someone who isn't 3rd pick quality.

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

I don't want a QB that is just "good enough". I want a Peyton Manning....a Tom Brady *cringe*.....I want a ****ing franchise QB.

Brady sure was thought to be a franchise, superstar star Qb being taken in the 6th round.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by greyhoodie

I think you are confusing franchise QB and HOF QB.

If your expectations are a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady you will probably be disappointed.

Rivers, Cutler, Big Ben, Baby Manning, possibly Cassel, Warner, possibly Pennington, Brees, Romo, etc are Franchise QBs.

I only threw out Manning and Brady....because those are the only QBs that people know. I'd be perfectly happy with Cutler, Big Ben, Baby Manning or Brees.

[Nightfyre]

It sounded to me like Pioli already had his eyes, if not his heart, set on someone at QB. If that's the case, I suspect we are already in a position to succeed.

[EyePod]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

I would love Thiggy to pan out but he seemed a little hot and cold. Maybe with a better QB coach and HC he could get better but he doesn't quite look like a franchise QB to me.

I think the experience and the offseason as a starter would help him immensely.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by bkkcoh

We can instantly upgrade our football with improving the defense and adding pieces to the offensive line. I think Thigpen is a good enough QB that we don't have to draft a QB with the 3rd pick. We can take a QB later. Unless a sure-fire, superstar QB is available, and we all know that that isn't the case. There might be a really good one, but is he good enough to take a chance on with the 3rd pick.

What's this "we all know shit"? What do you do when you "assume"? Quite so.

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

I don't want a QB that is just "good enough". I want a Peyton Manning....a Tom Brady *cringe*.....I want a ****ing franchise QB.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

It sounded to me like Pioli already had his eyes, if not his heart, set on someone at QB. If that's the case, I suspect we are already in a position to succeed.

Naaailed it! If we assume Pioli's going to pull the trigger in the first-round, that look on his face when he made that comment leaves NO question in my mind as to who he was thinking of.
I've seen that look before. It's a part of the reaction one has when watching Mark Sanchez play a great game for the first time.

[DrRyan]

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Naaailed it! If we assume Pioli's going to pull the trigger in the first-round, that look on his face when he made that comment leaves NO question in my mind as to who he was thinking of.
I've seen that look before. It's a part of the reaction one has when watching Mark Sanchez play a great game for the first time.

I preface this by saying I will support whatever Pioli's decision is with the #3 pick. But Mark Sanchez? Really? You are that sold on the guy after he starts for one season at USC? I would say that is putting an awful lot of stock in a very small sample. If the Chiefs were drafting somewhere in the 12-20 range in the first round I would say drafting Sanchez makes more sense. But, dumping $50+ million into a guy with one season of college starts under his belt seems like a very high risk, possibly high reward situation.

I await your tantrum Mecca, DCS and the rest of the Sanchez Kool-Aid drinkers.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

With number three I think you have to draft the best available....if you wanna draft position, trade down.

Unless QB is the BAP. Then or if its very close pull the trigger. Otherwise I say trade down.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Chief Henry

this

Is stupid

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by DrRyan

I preface this by saying I will support whatever Pioli's decision is with the #3 pick. But Mark Sanchez? Really? You are that sold on the guy after he starts for one season at USC? I would say that is putting an awful lot of stock in a very small sample. If the Chiefs were drafting somewhere in the 12-20 range in the first round I would say drafting Sanchez makes more sense. But, dumping $50+ million into a guy with one season of college starts under his belt seems like a very high risk, possibly high reward situation.

I await your tantrum Mecca, DCS and the rest of the Sanchez Kool-Aid drinkers.

Explain to me the difference between a one year college starter, and a two to three year college starter who are going to spend their first year in the NFL holding a clipboard on the sideline?

Does the three year guy hold the advantage because he played more college ball, or is the slate wiped clean when both begin their Professional Internship?

The latter is the correct answer.

So now we're looking at skill set in an attempt to evaluate who's got better tools, and who has the greatest potential.
To that end, there are two QB's in this draft that fit the bill. And though I have preference, I will be happy to see the Chiefs acquire either one.

No tantrum, no kool-aid, just infallible logic. We do so hope you will be wise enough to listen and learn.

[chiefsngop]

Originally Posted by greyhoodie

These are the QBs drafted by Scott at NE (and where they were drafted)

2000 Tom Brady 199
2001 none
2002 Rohan Davey 117
2003 Kliff Kingsbury 201
2004 none
2005 Matt Cassel 230
2006 none
2007 none
2008 Kevin O'Connell 94

I would say that is closer to every other year.

one future HOF and another very solid pick who some expect will be traded to the Chiefs; 2 busts and a TBD.

I don't really want Cassel here in KC.

But a guy taken with the 230th pick that steps in for an injured Hall Of Famer and leads the team to 11-5 is a good pick, even if he's a bust for the rest of his career.

One 11-5 season coming off the bench is a fine accomplishment for the 230th pick. Even if he never does anything again.