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Old 01-24-2009, 12:58 PM  
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If not Shanahan..

... then it might really be the case that Todd Haley is the candidate Pioli is focusing on. With that in mind, somebody posted this article/editorial on another Chiefs forum which I found kind of interesting:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...th-kansas-city

Ten Reasons Kurt Warner Will Sign with Kansas City


The Kansas City Chiefs fired coach Herm Edwards after posting a 15-34 record in three seasons, including 2-14 this season. Since the hiring of Scott Pioli as general manager, it has been rumored that changes within the organization will occur. Former Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan's name continues to surface as a possibility of becoming the next head coach; however, it remains unlikely Shanahan will be coaching in Kansas City next season.

After the Super Bowl, the Chiefs will seek permission to talk with Arizona offensive coordinator Todd Haley regarding the vacant coaching position. Haley's stock has flourished in conjunction with the Cardinals run through the NFC playoffs and the team's first ever Super Bowl appearance. Both Haley and Pioli have one major connection: Bill Parcells.

Only three NFL franchises have posted worse records than the Chiefs in the past three years; Detroit, Oakland and St. Louis. Kansas City has traditionally been a winning franchise until recently. Since the Chiefs play in a weak AFC West division, the possibility of turning the franchise around in a shorter period of time increases.

If the Chiefs decide to hire Haley as head coach, he will bring the explosive passing offense from Arizona to Kansas City. Haley needs a gunslinger for a quarterback and balance at the wide receiver position to be successful.

Mel Kiper has posted his 2009 mock NFL draft on espn.com. Right now, Kiper has the Chiefs selecting USC quarterback Matt Sanchez at No. 3. Kansas City does need to upgrade the quarterback position, but Kiper based this selection on Edwards still being coach.

The hiring of Haley will probably lead the team to select Texas Tech WR Michael Crabtree with the No. 3 pick. Realistically, Haley wants a quick turnaround with the franchise and drafting a QB will slow him down. Crabtree provides Haley with a balanced wide receiver attack, similar to Larry Fitzgerald and Anquin Boldin in Arizona, with Dwayne Bowe and future hall-of-fame TE Tony Gonzalez.

The Chiefs already have RB Larry Johnson and Jamaal Charles in place. Ultimately, Haley will be seeking a free-agent quarterback. If Kansas City does hire Haley as head coach, the following 10 reasons represent why Kurt Warner will be the Kansas City Chiefs quarterback next season:

1. Haley is head coach

2. Warner has familiarity with Haley's offensive system

3. Warner is an unrestricted free-agent

4. Economic decision by Arizona Cardinals. Matt Leinart was No. 10 pick in 2006 NFL Draft and makes a substantial amount of money as a back-up. Can't keep him on the bench much longer.

5. At 37, seeking a potential two-year deal to finish career

6. Guarantee starting quarterback job

7. Gets to throw to Bowe, Crabtree and Gonzalez

8. Play in a weak AFC West division

9. Opportunity to play in the Midwest (originally from Cedar Rapids, Iowa)

10. Irony. Began NFL career in Missouri (St. Louis); will end NFL career in Missouri (Kansas City)


If that turns out to be true, do you think the Chiefs will go after someone like Harrell or Freeman as a 2 year grooming project? I guess I will be watching the Senior Bowl today with the extra incentive of watching Harrell and the rest of the Senior QBs.
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Old 01-24-2009, 07:47 PM   #61
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Haley spooks me. He's an OC. We need a HC. Shannahan, Cowher, Parcells.

Cojones is the key word
Shannahan, Cowher, Parcells were coordinators before they were successful HCs.
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Old 01-24-2009, 08:11 PM   #62
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Shannahan, Cowher, Parcells were coordinators before they were successful HCs.
Yes, this is true. But we do not need another project. We need a proven winner.

And how many teams has Haley coached to a SB?
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Old 01-24-2009, 08:33 PM   #63
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I have no problem with Warner as a veteran stopgap QB while the Chiefs draft a QB like Sanchez as their QBOTF.

Warner has always embraced the role of tutoring younger QB's (Marc Bulger in St. Louis, Eli Manning in New York and Matt Leinart in Arizona).
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Old 01-24-2009, 08:33 PM   #64
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Yes, this is true. But we do not need another project. We need a proven winner.

And how many teams has Haley coached to a SB?
Another project? Who was the first project? Herm Edwards? Don't say yes, just resist the temptation.

This is so ****ing typical of a Chiefs fan; a big, wide open, and uncertain world opens up, and the weak-willed wanna' go running post-haste to their security blanky.

"It's not about finding the best, it's about finding the RIGHT person(s)".

Pioli is looking for someone with a certain dynamic, knowledge of the strategy of the game, and someone who will fit with, and I can't stress this enough, HIS PROGRAM.

And you can bet that Cowher and Rat are NOT lining up at the door to surrender their ego's to Scott's vision. And don't give me that "Shannahan said he would work with Pioli" nonsense.

Working with, and acquiesing to, are two different things altogether.

The end of this drama can't come soon enough; I am SO sick of this shit.
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I'm really starting to warm to the idea of Todd Haley as head coach. Shanahan is still my #1 choice, but the idea of Haley as an aggressive, pass-oriented guy is very appealing.
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Old 01-24-2009, 08:51 PM   #66
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I'm really starting to warm to the idea of Todd Haley as head coach. Shanahan is still my #1 choice, but the idea of Haley as an aggressive, pass-oriented guy is very appealing.
Me too. If he had a better line and an RB with more juice than James, I bet we'd see more running coming from Haley and the Cards as well.

Their defense is about to be tested big-time too. If that D comes up big, I wouldn't mind KC taking a look at Pendergast; talk about turning chicken shit in to chicken salad!
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Another project? Who was the first project? Herm Edwards? Don't say yes, just resist the temptation.

This is so ****ing typical of a Chiefs fan; a big, wide open, and uncertain world opens up, and the weak-willed wanna' go running post-haste to their security blanky.

"It's not about finding the best, it's about finding the RIGHT person(s)".

Pioli is looking for someone with a certain dynamic, knowledge of the strategy of the game, and someone who will fit with, and I can't stress this enough, HIS PROGRAM.

And you can bet that Cowher and Rat are NOT lining up at the door to surrender their ego's to Scott's vision. And don't give me that "Shannahan said he would work with Pioli" nonsense.

Working with, and acquiesing to, are two different things altogether.

The end of this drama can't come soon enough; I am SO sick of this shit.
Why don't you tell us how you really feel? Do you have a sneaker for Haley or what. Don't wet your dide.
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Old 01-24-2009, 09:00 PM   #68
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This is so ****ing typical of a Chiefs fan; a big, wide open, and uncertain world opens up, and the weak-willed wanna' go running post-haste to their security blanky.

Excuse me and just what makes you an expert of a typical Chiefs fan?
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Old 01-24-2009, 09:06 PM   #69
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Why don't you tell us how you really feel?

I just did; pay attention.

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Do you have a sneaker for Haley or what.
I've spent the last four months being schooled by the more knowledgeable posters on this board in an effort to help reduce the number of posts which scream "Homeristic True Fan".
Like yours.


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Don't wet your dide.
My bowels and urinary tract are far more effective than your football acumen, thank you.
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This is so ****ing typical of a Chiefs fan; a big, wide open, and uncertain world opens up, and the weak-willed wanna' go running post-haste to their security blanky.

Excuse me and just what makes you an expert of a typical Chiefs fan?
See last post.
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Either one of those would want to start right away. I think the Warner scenario fits getting someone like Freeman and developing him.
I think starting either of them right away would be a mistake. Especially Sanchez. They could both use that extra year of college to tell the truth, and whoever drafts them needs to have them on the bench for their rookie year. Warner would be great in the role of short term starter/ mentor to help bring the young QB along.
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