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Old 01-25-2009, 02:49 AM  
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The I am drunk and calling Mecca out thread...
So... You told me numerous times, that I was wrong about Jake Long...

We argued about Dorsey. Gholsten, etc....

Wh proved himself the better player?

Are you willing to man up and admit that you were wrong? Or do you have more excuses?

Just curious... btw Malaluagua (who I have been high on) did NOT impress me in the Senior Bowl tonight... I would rather have Laurenitis... someone with more brains and discipline.
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Old 01-25-2009, 12:32 PM   #76
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Crabtree will probably run close to a 4.6 forty. He is not going to lift his draft status by running. Of course, speed only means so much when the rest of your game is so good. Running without pads is overrated.
as of right now walter football has him at a 4.48 . how they got that # IDK
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Old 01-25-2009, 12:34 PM   #77
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Bono was a mediocre QB.

And I would bet you that you could ask 100 casual football fans to name the LT for the Donkeys, Chiefs and Fish, and, at best, you would get 1 out of three that could name anyone but Long.
Yes he was.

Your probably right. But Long still did an outstanding job. The fack that his team went from #1 pick to the playoffs with a very strong Running game helps his case. Again, the TEAM was better for him being there. Even if his personal stats werent great, which they are, he was a major reason his team got better.
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Old 01-25-2009, 12:38 PM   #78
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Yes he was.

Your probably right. But Long still did an outstanding job. The fack that his team went from #1 pick to the playoffs with a very strong Running game helps his case. Again, the TEAM was better for him being there. Even if his personal stats werent great, which they are, he was a major reason his team got better.
He was a good fit for the Dolpins.

But I wouldn't trade Clady or Albert for him.
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Old 01-25-2009, 12:43 PM   #79
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On the day of the draft have Mecca and Frankie pick their top 20 prospects. We'll revisit the top 20 each year for the next 3 years.
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Old 01-25-2009, 12:53 PM   #80
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If the draft was done over Clady would have been the first tackle taken.
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Old 01-25-2009, 01:10 PM   #81
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Someone posted an article about OT's taken in the draft, can't seem to find it.

Anywho, it said if the draft was done today, Clady would have been the first LT taken.
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Old 01-25-2009, 05:30 PM   #82
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I don't feel Crabtree is an elite prospect because he doesn't possess everything or have no question marks...he's not Calvin Johnson who's the last elite prospect.

Crabtree is from a spread offense and played 2 seasons....he's not fast, his numbers are from his scheme...physically he's similar to Dwayne Bowe with better hands...how is this worthy of a top 5 selection?
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Old 01-25-2009, 05:34 PM   #83
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Yes he was.

Your probably right. But Long still did an outstanding job. The fack that his team went from #1 pick to the playoffs with a very strong Running game helps his case. Again, the TEAM was better for him being there. Even if his personal stats werent great, which they are, he was a major reason his team got better.
That "team" you mentioned beat only TWO TEAMS with winning records in 2008. The Patriots in week three and the Jets in week 17.

They weren't exactly dominating and I'd be shocked if they made it to 8-8 in 2009.
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Old 01-25-2009, 09:46 PM   #84
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FWIW, Madden's OL rankings link attached.

http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1...e-line-ratings

Maddens ranked the rookie LT's accordingly:

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Long 85
Albert 81
Clady 79
Williams 79
Baker 78
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Old 01-25-2009, 09:55 PM   #85
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FWIW, Madden's OL rankings link attached.

http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1...e-line-ratings

Maddens ranked the rookie LT's accordingly:

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Long 85
Albert 81
Clady 79
Williams 79
Baker 78
Well that settles the debate then.
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Old 01-25-2009, 10:14 PM   #86
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That "team" you mentioned beat only TWO TEAMS with winning records in 2008. The Patriots in week three and the Jets in week 17.

They weren't exactly dominating and I'd be shocked if they made it to 8-8 in 2009.
Who cares? Give them credit for their 10-game improvement. You're fanatical about certain things and you act like the other perpsective sucks.
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That "team" you mentioned beat only TWO TEAMS with winning records in 2008. The Patriots in week three and the Jets in week 17.

They weren't exactly dominating and I'd be shocked if they made it to 8-8 in 2009.
But they didnt beat those teams 2 yrs ago.

Man will nobody admit to maybe even a slight error in judgement on this board?!

Its like arguing with my wife...
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Well that settles the debate then.
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