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Tertullian · 02-02-2009, 12:17 PM

The Chiefs are expected to formally interview Cardinals OC Todd Haley about their head-coaching vacancy this week.
Haley is so widely expected to get the job that multiple minority candidates have turned down interview offers, which GM Scott Pioli will still need to satisfy the Rooney Rule. Pioli should be able to come up with a minority coach from somewhere, but it won't be someone who takes the interview seriously. Feb. 2 - 12:50 pm et

From: Rotoworld.

Uncle_Ted · 02-02-2009, 07:41 PM

Pioli has no doubt already brow-beat the NFL into repealing the Rooney Rule -- he just hasn't given them permission to tell anyone yet.

**TinyEvel** · 02-02-2009, 07:43 PM

Can we count Herm's exit interview?

chop · 02-02-2009, 07:51 PM

I don't see why there is a need to require teams to interview minority candidates. I think times have changed and minorities are getting more and more opportunities. Three minority coaches have taken their respective teams to the SB in recent years. That success alone should open the door for the possibility of more minority coaches.

**DaFace** · 02-02-2009, 08:01 PM

I wonder if anyone has any clue whatsoever about this whole Haley thing. Certainly no one from the Chiefs has said "yep, we're interested." Haley himself said yesterday that he hadn't talked to the Chiefs. Is there anything to this whole "expected" thing aside from pure speculation? For all anyone knows, we may not even be considering him.

ILChief · 02-02-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chop

I don't see why there is a need to require teams to interview minority candidates. I think times have changed and minorities are getting more and more opportunities. Three minority coaches have taken their respective teams to the SB in recent years. That success alone should open the door for the possibility of more minority coaches.

I agree, the rule is outlived its usefulness. 2 of the last 3 super bowl winning coaches have been minorities plus the runner up year before last. The barrier has been broken.

jettio · 02-02-2009, 08:53 PM

I think one of the purposes of the Rooney rule was to give black coaching prospects more experience in the interview process so that a promising assistant would be able to learn about that process and the things that are asked at an interview so that they could figure out what they need to work on to be a more viable candidate in the future.

One effect of the rule is that all young assistant coaches, white or black, are more likely to get interviews for head coaching positions because on the whole, NFL teams are interviewing more candidates for head coach when there is an opening.

Seems that the rule has had a beneficial effect for both white and black coaches and has been beneficial to the league, so it would be better to keep it in place, since keeping it in place does little harm.

Who are the people harmed by the Rooney rule?

I think it is safe to say that Lane Kiffin and Josh McDaniels would not have gotten their first NFL head coaching position at such a young age if the Rooney rule had not slowed the process down and encouraged teams to interview more candidates for each opening.

Cormac · 02-02-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by R&GHomer

No kidding, if that is really the case, then the rule is flawed. What if no minorities wanted to interview.... we go without a coach!

Hey, we've been doing it for the last few years......

Cormac · 02-02-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SEKChiefsFan

Which explains why an interview with Herm really doesn't count.

Mark M · 02-02-2009, 09:47 PM

I'm reading all of this (the MLK "I Have A Dreamsicle" pic was ****ing hysterical - rep to pr_capone), and ...

How long do you all think it's going to take us to get used to the lockdown at One Arrowhead Drive?

Because it's driving me nuts, and I know it's driving a lot of you nuts. I mean, how we can do mock drafts without knowing who the coach will be next year? I need to know what, exactly, to yell at Mel Kiper (other than

).

Even worse, the media keep speculating more than an over-eager mid-1990s hedge fund manager on a three-day coke binge. And having about as much success.

If something doesn't change, Jack Harry won't have any credibility left.

Oh, wait ...

MM
~~

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-02-2009, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio

I think one of the purposes of the Rooney rule was to give black coaching prospects more experience in the interview process so that a promising assistant would be able to learn about that process and the things that are asked at an interview so that they could figure out what they need to work on to be a more viable candidate in the future.

One effect of the rule is that all young assistant coaches, white or black, are more likely to get interviews for head coaching positions because on the whole, NFL teams are interviewing more candidates for head coach when there is an opening.

Seems that the rule has had a beneficial effect for both white and black coaches and has been beneficial to the league, so it would be better to keep it in place, since keeping it in place does little harm.

Who are the people harmed by the Rooney rule?

I think it is safe to say that Lane Kiffin and Josh McDaniels would not have gotten their first NFL head coaching position at such a young age if the Rooney rule had not slowed the process down and encouraged teams to interview more candidates for each opening.

I can be as much of a pill as anyone, but it's nice now and again to hear a valid take on something besides drafting and Quarterbacks.

Mucho REP.

whoman69 · 02-02-2009, 10:29 PM

If they're citing the Chiefs interest in Haley as a reason to turn down the Chiefs, I'd say its pretty far from a slam dunk that they hire him as much as it was for the Lions when they went after Mariucchi. If there is now an exemption for such an event, the the Lion's situation had pretty much everything to do with it. If such an exemption exists it would protect organizations that do practice racist policies. That said, the time for the Rooney rule has passed.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-02-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

I wonder if anyone has any clue whatsoever about this whole Haley thing. Certainly no one from the Chiefs has said "yep, we're interested." Haley himself said yesterday that he hadn't talked to the Chiefs. Is there anything to this whole "expected" thing aside from pure speculation? For all anyone knows, we may not even be considering him.

This.

MMXcalibur · 02-02-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

If we attempt to interview minorities, and they refuse, that should be an exemption. Automatically.

Agreed.

I'm sick of this shit. I understand why the Rooney rule was implemented, but goddamn...just hire who's best fit for the job.

....alright, forget it, I'm done. I don't want to come off as sounding racist.

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DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $-1893101	I wonder if anyone has any clue whatsoever about this whole Haley thing. Certainly no one from the Chiefs has said "yep, we're interested." Haley himself said yesterday that he hadn't talked to the Chiefs. Is there anything to this whole "expected" thing aside from pure speculation? For all anyone knows, we may not even be considering him.
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jettio MVP Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $4504930	I think one of the purposes of the Rooney rule was to give black coaching prospects more experience in the interview process so that a promising assistant would be able to learn about that process and the things that are asked at an interview so that they could figure out what they need to work on to be a more viable candidate in the future. One effect of the rule is that all young assistant coaches, white or black, are more likely to get interviews for head coaching positions because on the whole, NFL teams are interviewing more candidates for head coach when there is an opening. Seems that the rule has had a beneficial effect for both white and black coaches and has been beneficial to the league, so it would be better to keep it in place, since keeping it in place does little harm. Who are the people harmed by the Rooney rule? I think it is safe to say that Lane Kiffin and Josh McDaniels would not have gotten their first NFL head coaching position at such a young age if the Rooney rule had not slowed the process down and encouraged teams to interview more candidates for each opening. __________________ Where Ignorance is Bliss, 'Tis Folly to be Wise. __
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Mark M What time is it? Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: You tell me ... Casino cash: $9884900	I'm reading all of this (the MLK "I Have A Dreamsicle" pic was **ing hysterical - rep to pr_capone), and ... How long do you all think it's going to take us to get used to the lockdown at One Arrowhead Drive? Because it's driving me nuts, and I know it's driving a lot of you nuts. I mean, how we can do mock drafts without knowing who the coach will be next year? I need to know what, exactly, to yell at Mel Kiper (other than ). Even worse, the media keep speculating more than an over-eager mid-1990s hedge fund manager on a three-day coke binge. And having about as much success. If something doesn't change, Jack Harry won't have any credibility left. Oh, wait ... MM ~~ __________________ ChiefsPlanet** -- n. The place where brilliant minds assemble to willfully pool ignorance with questionable logic in order to reach absurd conclusions.
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