GBN Mock from 2/17/09

[Coogs]

http://www.gbnreport.com/2009projection.html

Crabtree and Matthews for those of you who don't want to click on the link.

And here is their new top 140 from yesterday as well...

http://www.gbnreport.com/top100.html

[DrRyan]

I agree with pretty much everything already said here. That mock is awful. IMO Crabtree is very much overrated for obvious(to me) reasons, i.e. not a good route runner, not good in press coverage, not great speed. When all is said and done I would not be surprised to see Maclin and possibly Heyward-Bey have better rookie years and possibly pro careers.

If Sintim is there in the second, I see no way that the Chiefs would go with Matthews of him. Just an awful mock draft.

[Mr. Laz]

2009 DRAFT PROJECTION

February 17, 2009

#	Team	Player	POS	School
1	Detroit	Matthew Stafford	QB	Georgia
2	St. Louis	Eugene Monroe	OT	Virginia
3	Kansas City	Michael Crabtree	WR	Texas Tech
4	Seattle	B.J. Raji	DT	Boston College
5	Cleveland	Aaron Curry	LB	Wake Forest
6	Cincinnati	Jason Smith	OT	Baylor
7	Oakland	Andre Smith	OT	Alabama
8	Jacksonville	Jeremy Maclin	WR	Missouri
9	Green Bay	Malcolm Jenkins	CB	Ohio State
10	San Francisco	Michael Oher	OT	Mississippi
11	Buffalo	Brian Orakpo	DE	Texas
12	Denver	Aaron Maybin	LB	Penn State
13	Washington	Everete Brown	DE	Florida State
14	New Orleans	Vontae Davis	CB	Illinois
15	Houston	D.J. Moore	CB	Vanderbilt
16	San Diego	Rey Maualuga	LB	Southern California
17	New York Jets	Tyson Jackson	DE	LSU
18	Chicago	Percy Harvin	WR	Florida
19	Tampa Bay	Mark Sanchez	QB	Southern California
20	Detroit (from Dallas)	Brian Cushing	LB	Southern California
21	Philadelphia	Knowshon Moreno	RB	Georgia
22	Minnesota	Josh Freeman	QB	Kansas State
23	New England	Chris Wells	RB	Ohio State
24	Atlanta	Brandon Pettigrew	TE	Oklahoma State
25	Miami	James Laurinaitis	LB	Ohio State
26	Baltimore	Alphonso Smith	CB	Wake Forest
27	Indianapolis	Peria Jerry	DT	Mississippi
28	Philadelphia (from Carolina)	Eben Britton	OT	Arizona
29	New York Giants	Hakeem Nicks	WR	North Carolina
30	Tennessee	Alex Mack	C	California
31	Arizona	LeSean McCoy	RB	Pittsburgh
32	Pittsburgh	Max Unger	C/G	Oregon

[Mr. Laz]

Second round

33	Detroit	Larry English	DE	Northern Illinois
34	Kansas City	Clay Matthews	LB	Southern California
35	St. Louis	Darrius Heyward-Bey	WR	Maryland
36	Cleveland	Kenny Britt	WR	Rutgers
37	Seattle	William Beatty	OT	UConn
38	Cincinnati	Paul Kruger	DE	Utah
39	Jacksonville	Phil Loadholt	OT	Oklahoma
40	Oakland	Sen'Derrick Marks	DT	Auburn
41	Green Bay	Clint Sintim	LB	Virginia
42	Buffalo	Chase Coffman	TE	Missouri
43	San Francisco	Rashad Johnson	FS	Alabama
44	Miami (from Washington)	Sean Smith	CB	Utah
45	New York Giants (from New Orleans)	Ziggy Hood	DT	Missouri
46	Houston	Michael Johnson	DE	Georgia Tech
47	New England (from San Diego)	Darius Butler	CB	UConn
48	Denver	Terrence Taylor	NT	Michigan
49	Chicago	Robert Ayers	DE	Tennessee
50	Tampa Bay	Tyrone McKenzie	LB	South Florida
51	Dallas	Derrick Williams	WR	Penn State
52	New York Jets	Macho Harris	CB	Virginia Tech
53	Philadelphia	Jared Cook	TE	South Carolina
54	Minnesota	Jamon Meredith	OT	South Carolina
55	Atanta	Patrick Chung	SS	Oregon
56	Miami	Duke Robinson	OG	Oklahoma
57	Baltimore	Darry Beckwith	LB	LSU
58	New England	Connor Barwin	LB	Cincinnati
59	Carolina	Fili Moala	DT	Southern California
60	New York Giants	Marcus Freeman	LB	Ohio State
61	Indianapolis	Eric Wood	C	Louisville
62	Tennessee	Brian Robiskie	WR	Ohio State
63	Arizona	Bruce Johnson	CB	Miami
64	Pittsburgh	Jarron Gilbert	DE	San Jose State

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[PhillyChiefFan]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You know I've honestly been trying to figure this out, searching for it if you will. What separates Michael Crabtree from the rest of the WR's, what makes him a top 5 pick the #1 WR and I've yet to find anything that separates him.

If anything I've found things that look like you could argue he shouldn't be the 1st WR taken.

The kid might run ,what...a 4.45 at best, does not have the break away speed, nor the separation ability.

Why is he THAT much better than Maclin or Heyward-Bey? His numbers?!?! The kid was thrown to 10 times a game, of course he is going to have the numbers.

[PhillyChiefFan]

The server would crash if we took Crabtree #3

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

The kid might run ,what...a 4.45 at best, does not have the break away speed, nor the separation ability.

Why is he THAT much better than Maclin or Heyward-Bey? His numbers?!?! The kid was thrown to 10 times a game, of course he is going to have the numbers.

If he doesn't have breakaway speed how is able to do so much damage after the catch? Track speed v. football speed.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

The kid might run ,what...a 4.45 at best, does not have the break away speed, nor the separation ability.

Why is he THAT much better than Maclin or Heyward-Bey? His numbers?!?! The kid was thrown to 10 times a game, of course he is going to have the numbers.

If he runs a 4.45 he's a lock for the top 5. People are suggesting that he's not running at the combine because he can't break 4.6.

Separation isn't something dictated by the 40, though. You'd need to see his 10 meter splits and his cone drills to get more of an idea about his acceleration. Strength and technique plays into it, too, beating the bump off the line.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief

Personally, if taking a LB in the 2nd round, I like Clint Sintim better than Mathews.

I will burn shit if we take Matthews over anybody, let alone Crabtree at #3. I like the guy, but not any better than a guy like Collie, who has the same speed, same hands, a good ability to separate, but is definitely not a first round option.

Actually, I would like to read Mecca's take on Matthews.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You know I've honestly been trying to figure this out, searching for it if you will. What separates Michael Crabtree from the rest of the WR's, what makes him a top 5 pick the #1 WR and I've yet to find anything that separates him.

If anything I've found things that look like you could argue he shouldn't be the 1st WR taken.

7-28-08
"Personally if they do have the 1st pick it's Crabtree he's got everything you want."


Why did you change your mind?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

7-28-08
"Personally if they do have the 1st pick it's Crabtree he's got everything you want."


Why did you change your mind?

When I sat down and really watched him outside of a highlight video...

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

The server would crash if we took Crabtree #3

Not only that, but we would be another 2 years behind any rebuild for a championship run...