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chop · 03-09-2009, 06:36 PM

Mayock: Lions should avoid drafting Matt Stafford

by Tom Kowalski Monday March 09, 2009, 7:54 PM

Mike Mayock, the draft analyst for NFL Network, was a guest on WJR tonight, joining hosts Ken Brown and Mike O'Hara. Here are some highlights from that interview (and the Detroit Lions fans who are hoping the team drafts Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford might be a little disappointed with Mayock's opinions):

--- Mayock said he believes that 2009 will be an average draft class without much star power in the top 10. He believes the draft is deep at outside linebacker and tight end but weak at guard and inside linebacker.
--- Mayock pointed out that of the last 11 underclassmen quarterbacks to be drafted in the first round, only two have been successful - Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rogers. Mayock pointed out a laundry list of failures - Heath Shuler, Ryan Leaf, Vince Young, Alex Smith and, so far, JaMarcus Russell.
Mayock said that if the Lions make a mistake at quarterback with that pick, "they won't recover for five years.''
Mayock spoke very highly of Stafford, saying he has great arm strength and is a good athlete, but also said "There are some things about him that bother me. If I was the Lions, I'd take (Aaron) Curry or one of those left tackles (Jason Smith or Eugene Monroe).
"If you have any doubts about the kid, in my opinion, you have to pass. I told everybody last year that Matt Ryan was the guy. I have questions about the guy this year.''
--- Mayock said he sees some similarities between Stafford and Denver quarterback Jay Cutler, especially arm strength, but he sees one big difference. Mayock said Cutler played for a "horrible'' Vanderbilt team but always had his team in a position to win. Stafford, meanwhile, played with two elite receivers and an NFL-caliber running back and "sometimes he looked like Superman and sometimes he looked average ... I say 'Why?'''
--- Brown and O'Hara brought up the possibility that if the Lions drafted Curry, they might move him to middle linebacker but Mayock immediately shot that down. Mayock said Curry is the prototype SAM linebacker and shouldn't be moved.

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...void_draf.html

Chief Roundup · 03-10-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Is the 2009 Draft the last draft of all time?

No. There will be many many more. There will also be QB's in those drafts as well.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-10-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

No. There will be many many more. There will also be QB's in those drafts as well.

After next year's QB Draft Uselessness, I'm inclined to at least take a look if not agree with you.

Reerun_KC · 03-10-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Any fan can only watch so much college football, and we only see the network TV footage.

These analysts get to watch coaches tapes, talk to the coaches about these kids, and break it down as their career.

Not a single one of us on here is that adept at the draft.

And, from reading Mecca, yeah, he knows the basics, but he is by no means an expert on anything other than rationalizing the selection of a QB at the top of the draft.

I have said this time and time again, all we can do is speculate.. Just like Curry is a sure fire, cant miss, HOF LB and both QB's are busts....

Its preception and speculation on manys part to whom "They" want to draft for the Chiefs.... Someone will get lucky and be right, then they will pound their junk while telling everyone they were right all along...

Wash rinse repeat each year on Chiefsplanet...

kcbubb · 03-10-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I agree, I think the Lions take either a LT or Curry.

you change your opinions quickly. you bashed me for saying Curry was worth the #3 pick and now you say he is worth #1 overall??? what about your positional value argument??? and what about the "you don't pass on a possible franchise QB if you don't have one???"

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-10-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

you change your opinions quickly. you bashed me for saying Curry was worth the #3 pick and now you say he is worth #1 overall??? what about your positional value argument??? and what about the "you don't pass on a possible franchise QB if you don't have one???"

He didn't say they were making the right decision, genious.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-10-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He didn't say they were making the right decision, genious.

I've been saying Curry to Detroit since the combined closed. STL will more than likely take the top Tackle, and we're right back where we were before.

Until I know that 3rd has been traded-down, it's QB Understudy Time at the ol' 2009 hoe down.

kcbubb · 03-10-2009, 11:40 AM

come on.... Hamas.. rallying around your QB buddy. the lions are in the perfect position to draft a QB. They have two picks in the first round. The current QBs on their roster, either Dan or Culpepper can play for another year while Stafford develops. they can spend their other picks to develop the team. they could possibly have their offense of the future with a young QB, RB, WR, and RT.

How could you think that they would pass on Stafford unless you have changed your mind and think that Stafford maybe isn't worth what you thought he was???

BTW... I think the Lions should draft Stafford and sit him and hope that he develops. His physical ability reminds me too much of Cutler for the Lions to pass on him.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-10-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

come on.... Hamas.. rallying around your QB buddy. the lions are in the perfect position to draft a QB. They have two picks in the first round. The current QBs on their roster, either Dan or Culpepper can play for another year while Stafford develops. they can spend their other picks to develop the team. they could possibly have their offense of the future with a young QB, RB, WR, and RT.

How could you think that they would pass on Stafford unless you have changed your mind and think that Stafford maybe isn't worth what you thought he was???

BTW... I think the Lions should draft Stafford and sit him and hope that he develops. His physical ability reminds me too much of Cutler for the Lions to pass on him.

I'm not saying what they should do, nor is he, he's predicting what decision he thinks they'll make.

This is a team that just went 0-16 and hired its GM from within the organization. Think about that.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-10-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm not saying what they should do, nor is he, he's predicting what decision he thinks they'll make.

This is a team that just went 0-16 and hired its GM from within the organization. Think about that.

I must have missed that. Between that and Gunther.....

bdeg · 03-10-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is a team that just went 0-16 and hired its GM from within the organization. Think about that.

That is pretty damn laughable.

KChiefs1 · 03-10-2009, 04:13 PM

Mayock is the best out there.

ChiefRon · 03-11-2009, 12:25 AM

Funny, tonight on Total Access he was talking about Sanchez again, and he said something to the effect of "Well, Detroit is considering QB, I think they would be wise to take a hard look at Sanchez" and even though Stafford has more upside, he wasn't "sure Stafford had the mentality to deal with the pressure of the 1st overall pick" and he also compared Sanchez to Matt Ryan

Maybe he just thinks if they're going QB, it should be Sanchez instead of Stafford?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-11-2009, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRon

Funny, tonight on Total Access he was talking about Sanchez again, and he said something to the effect of "Well, Detroit is considering QB, I think they would be wise to take a hard look at Sanchez" and even though Stafford has more upside, he wasn't "sure Stafford had the mentality to deal with the pressure of the 1st overall pick" and he also compared Sanchez to Matt Ryan

Maybe he just thinks if they're going QB, it should be Sanchez instead of Stafford?

They're like chimpanzees flinging crap!

They'll make GREAT old ladies one day...

03-09-2009, 06:36 PM
chop Go Chiefs! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $894270	Mayock says Lions should not draft Stafford Mayock: Lions should avoid drafting Matt Stafford by Tom Kowalski Monday March 09, 2009, 7:54 PM Mike Mayock, the draft analyst for NFL Network, was a guest on WJR tonight, joining hosts Ken Brown and Mike O'Hara. Here are some highlights from that interview (and the Detroit Lions fans who are hoping the team drafts Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford might be a little disappointed with Mayock's opinions): --- Mayock said he believes that 2009 will be an average draft class without much star power in the top 10. He believes the draft is deep at outside linebacker and tight end but weak at guard and inside linebacker. --- Mayock pointed out that of the last 11 underclassmen quarterbacks to be drafted in the first round, only two have been successful - Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rogers. Mayock pointed out a laundry list of failures - Heath Shuler, Ryan Leaf, Vince Young, Alex Smith and, so far, JaMarcus Russell. Mayock said that if the Lions make a mistake at quarterback with that pick, "they won't recover for five years.'' Mayock spoke very highly of Stafford, saying he has great arm strength and is a good athlete, but also said "There are some things about him that bother me. If I was the Lions, I'd take (Aaron) Curry or one of those left tackles (Jason Smith or Eugene Monroe). "If you have any doubts about the kid, in my opinion, you have to pass. I told everybody last year that Matt Ryan was the guy. I have questions about the guy this year.'' --- Mayock said he sees some similarities between Stafford and Denver quarterback Jay Cutler, especially arm strength, but he sees one big difference. Mayock said Cutler played for a "horrible'' Vanderbilt team but always had his team in a position to win. Stafford, meanwhile, played with two elite receivers and an NFL-caliber running back and "sometimes he looked like Superman and sometimes he looked average ... I say 'Why?''' --- Brown and O'Hara brought up the possibility that if the Lions drafted Curry, they might move him to middle linebacker but Mayock immediately shot that down. Mayock said Curry is the prototype SAM linebacker and shouldn't be moved. http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...void_draf.html
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03-10-2009, 11:40 AM	#67
kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $4996719	come on.... Hamas.. rallying around your QB buddy. the lions are in the perfect position to draft a QB. They have two picks in the first round. The current QBs on their roster, either Dan or Culpepper can play for another year while Stafford develops. they can spend their other picks to develop the team. they could possibly have their offense of the future with a young QB, RB, WR, and RT. How could you think that they would pass on Stafford unless you have changed your mind and think that Stafford maybe isn't worth what you thought he was??? BTW... I think the Lions should draft Stafford and sit him and hope that he develops. His physical ability reminds me too much of Cutler for the Lions to pass on him.
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KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	Mayock is the best out there. __________________
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03-11-2009, 12:25 AM	#72
ChiefRon Starter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Memphis, TN Casino cash: $10004900	Funny, tonight on Total Access he was talking about Sanchez again, and he said something to the effect of "Well, Detroit is considering QB, I think they would be wise to take a hard look at Sanchez" and even though Stafford has more upside, he wasn't "sure Stafford had the mentality to deal with the pressure of the 1st overall pick" and he also compared Sanchez to Matt Ryan Maybe he just thinks if they're going QB, it should be Sanchez instead of Stafford?
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