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Sam Hall · 03-18-2009, 01:50 PM

By John Clayton
ESPN.com
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After further review, the NFL overtime rules won't change.

NFL Competition Committee co-chairman Rich McKay, speaking on a national conference call, said there will be no adjustment to the current overtime rules. The committee met for 10 days in Naples, Fla., and, after consulting players and conducting a league-wide survey from the 32 clubs, there wasn't enough support to make any proposal to change the current overtime rules, which were created to minimize the chance of ties.

There has been a recent push by fans for each team to have a possession in overtime. Players expressed concerns about safety issues if the current rules are changed. McKay said there has been a growing concern about the increasing number of games decided on the first possession after the overtime coin toss. In 2008, the team that won the coin toss had a 43.4 success rate in winning the game on the series following the coin toss. Overall, the team that won the coin toss had a 63 percent winning percentage regardless of the number of overtime possessions.

In other competitive items that will be discussed at next week's owners meeting in Dana Point, Calif., the committee recommended a reseeding proposal for the draft order in future years. Under the proposal, the 20 teams that didn't make the playoffs would be seeded based on their record as it is currently formatted. The change would involve teams making the playoffs. Those playoffs teams would be seeded in slots 21 through 32 and but they would drop in the positions based on how long they last in the playoffs.

The Jacksonville Jaguars have proposed a reseeding change in the playoffs that would reward non-division winners with better records a higher playoff seed than division winners with worse records.

In 2008, the Kansas City Chiefs proposed a rule change to limit the amount of hair coming out a helmet, but the Chiefs didn't resubmit that proposal this year, and it will not be discussed at the owners meeting.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3993657

Crush · 03-18-2009, 03:47 PM

I'm sorry, but if you cannot win regulation then you do not deserve to win the game. You have four frakking quarters to not suck ass, deal with it.

jidar · 03-18-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by talastan

I don't have a problem with either changing OT rules or for reseeding playoffs. The best teams should get in, regardless of rank in division. This IMO promotes a much more exciting regular season, and makes the playoffs that much more enjoyable and competitive with fans knowing that every team that made it deserves to be there.

Then what is the point of divisions? Divisions have created great rivalries that have been a big boost to the NFL. You would throw that away?

Crush · 03-18-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Well sometimes it just doesn't play out like that. easier said than done. There are ties all the time.

They need to just make it where both sides get an offensive posession, if one scores only a FG, and the next team on offense scores a TD, then team #2 wins.

This is very simple.

With all due respect, these are professionals. Everyone does not deserve a trophy. In overtime, you need to be sharp in all three phases of the game. Your special teams gave up a 90+ yard kick return for a TD? Too bad, so sad. Your defense let the opposing offense get into position for a 50+ yard FG? Too bad, so sad. Your offense turned over the ball, which set up the subsequent score for the loss? Too bad, so sad. Teams need to learn how to win regulation. If they do not, then they both need to suffer the consequences.

The only thing I would change is the method of how ties are handled. A tie should result in a loss for both teams involved. No separate column for ties. If either team cannot impose their will over the other in 75 minutes, then they are both losers.

Mr. Krab · 03-18-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Players expressed concerns about safety issues if the current rules are changed

Dam pussies

**jjchieffan** · 03-18-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jidar

Then what is the point of divisions? Divisions have created great rivalries that have been a big boost to the NFL. You would throw that away?

I disagree. Any system that lets a mediocre 8-8 team that wins a weak division into the playoffs, while eliminating an 11-5 defending AFC champ in a strong division is screwed up. Yeah the Dungver/SD game to end the season would have been meaningless, but I doubt that it would have affected the long term division rivalry if SD would have been rightfully denied a playoff spot. The rivalry is about the 2 head to head games every year, and the division championship, not just about which team makes a playoff appearance.

**Rain Man** · 03-18-2009, 04:18 PM

My overtime suggestion would hearken back to the NFL's earliest history.

11 players from each team line up on their own goal line. The ball is placed on the 50 yard-line. After ten minutes, whoever has advanced the ball wins. No other rules are in place.

I dare you to tell me that wouldn't be popular.

Ultra Peanut · 03-18-2009, 04:22 PM

My preferred option is to actually not change it all that much, except make the winner the first team to score six points.

**Skip Towne** · 03-18-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

My preferred option is to actually not change it all that much, except make the winner the first team to score six points.

Best idea I've seen.

tonyetony · 03-18-2009, 04:47 PM

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In 2008, the Kansas City Chiefs proposed a rule change to limit the amount of hair coming out a helmet, but the Chiefs didn't resubmit that proposal this year, and it will not be discussed at the owners meeting.

It should have read more like this:
In 2008, the Kansas City Chiefs proposed a rule change to limit the amount of hair coming out a helmet, but the Chiefs didn't resubmit that proposal this year, because they seem to be more interested in football.

FD · 03-18-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

My preferred option is to actually not change it all that much, except make the winner the first team to score six points.

Came here to post this. Its by far the best solution.

**KcMizzou** · 03-18-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

My preferred option is to actually not change it all that much, except make the winner the first team to score six points.

Ooh, I like that. Simple.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-18-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Crush

I'm sorry, but if you cannot win regulation then you do not deserve to win the game. You have four frakking quarters to not suck ass, deal with it.

WTF does this mean?

**Rain Man** · 03-18-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Forward Dante

Came here to post this. Its by far the best solution.

You obviously didn't read my suggestion.

Crush · 03-18-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

WTF does this mean?

All I am saying is that a team needs to learn how to win in 60 minutes. This includes all three phases of the game: special teams, offense, and defense. If a team cannot win the frigging game in four quarters, then they are just tempting fate. The league should not change the OT rules. If the two teams are not able to finish the job in the prescribed 60 minutes, then one phase needs to buckle up and the carry the team on its back. Also, let me clarify that the so-called "scary coin toss" is not a phase of the game. If a team blames an instrument of chance for their loss, then that team should just change their name to the (city name) Pussies.

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