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**BigMeatballDave** · GBM 8-12-15

Chiefs will regret trading Gonzalez

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0...-Gonzalez.html

I've really liked most of what the new Kansas City regime has done this offseason.

Until now.

I hate the decision to trade tight end Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta.

I was against it when Gonzalez requested a trade in October. I was against it this offseason when the talk resurfaced and I am against it now. I am really down on it now that I've heard what the Chiefs got in return for Gonzalez: A second-round pick in 2010.

This certainly balances out Kansas City's steal of a trade for quarterback Matt Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel earlier this offseason. It only cost Kansas City a second-round pick for the two players. The least Kansas City should have received in return for Gonzalez was a second-rounder in this weekend's draft.

It just doesn't make sense that Kansas City has to wait until next year to get compensation for Gonzalez. The Chiefs need plenty of help now. They could use another quality rookie.

They could still use Gonzalez as well. He was brilliant last season and he had one of his better seasons with 96 catches.

Gonzalez, who owns every significant NFL receiving record for a tight end, is 33 but is still playing at a high level. He caught 195 passes in the past two seasons. How are the Chiefs going to replace all the catches?

The Chiefs will regret this day. Gonzalez has been a pillar in the community as well as one of the greatest players in team history.

I thought Kansas City owner Clark Hunt had a handle on that when he said last month that the team didn't want to trade Gonzalez. The team needed to talk Gonzalez into being part of the new regime. He could have brought so much to the Cassel era.

Sure, Kansas City probably wasn't excited that Gonzalez didn't show up for a voluntary minicamp last weekend, but he has missed voluntary camps in the past. Gonzalez said last month he was a "neutral" about a trade. Kansas City didn't have to trade him.

This was a bad move by the Chiefs and it was a move that makes it difficult to believe they will be improved in 2009 because of it.

Demonpenz · 04-24-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Does anybody else enjoy Penz' schtick as much as I do?

I will cut back sorry for the bullshit.

**MahiMike** · 04-24-2009, 11:53 AM

What? This guy thinks we're gonna win the SB THIS year? Like, we can't wait another year (or 2) to use a #2? Are they gonna suspend the draft next year? A #2 is a #2.

**SAUTO** · 04-24-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

I will cut back sorry for the bullshit.

dont stop penz

htismaqe · 04-24-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

I will cut back sorry for the bullshit.

No don't. It's hilarious.

googlegoogle · 04-24-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I don't think it's realistic to expect a 2nd round pick for a tight end in his 30s, hall of famer or not, especially not when the player has been vocal about retiring inside of two years.

I think it's a miracle we got what we did.

yes

KcKing · 04-24-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

when Gonzalez requested a trade in October.

You'd think he'd pull out before talking to the media.... But then again... I wouldn't pull out ever...
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Demonpenz · 04-24-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

No don't. It's hilarious.

wait now now are ****ing penzing the penz Is this serious or not. arrrg my own medicine, i am getting dog pissed on

EyePod · 04-24-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

I wonder if this tool has ever heard of building for the future?

Pioli and Haley haven't. They said it's not in their vocabulary. I'm gonna wait to decide how I really feel about this until after this weekend.

SenselessChiefsFan · 04-24-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

Pioli and Haley haven't. They said it's not in their vocabulary. I'm gonna wait to decide how I really feel about this until after this weekend.

You may want to wait until after at least a game in the regular season.

BigRock · 04-25-2009, 11:05 AM

Did you hear this fat moron on ESPN News? He was completely rambling, going "The Chiefs could take Curry, or Jackson, or maybe Crabtree, and a tackle is possible, and they probably want to trade down" and basically sounding like he didn't have the first idea what he was talking about.

But then the topper: he goes "I don't think they know WHAT they want to do."

Yes, Bill. It's not that you're a moron. It's that Scott Pioli doesn't know what he wants.

04-24-2009, 10:01 AM
BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	ESPN.com's Bill Williamson is reeruned Chiefs will regret trading Gonzalez http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0...-Gonzalez.html I've really liked most of what the new Kansas City regime has done this offseason. Until now. I hate the decision to trade tight end Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta. I was against it when Gonzalez requested a trade in October. I was against it this offseason when the talk resurfaced and I am against it now. I am really down on it now that I've heard what the Chiefs got in return for Gonzalez: A second-round pick in 2010. This certainly balances out Kansas City's steal of a trade for quarterback Matt Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel earlier this offseason. It only cost Kansas City a second-round pick for the two players. The least Kansas City should have received in return for Gonzalez was a second-rounder in this weekend's draft. It just doesn't make sense that Kansas City has to wait until next year to get compensation for Gonzalez. The Chiefs need plenty of help now. They could use another quality rookie. They could still use Gonzalez as well. He was brilliant last season and he had one of his better seasons with 96 catches. Gonzalez, who owns every significant NFL receiving record for a tight end, is 33 but is still playing at a high level. He caught 195 passes in the past two seasons. How are the Chiefs going to replace all the catches? The Chiefs will regret this day. Gonzalez has been a pillar in the community as well as one of the greatest players in team history. I thought Kansas City owner Clark Hunt had a handle on that when he said last month that the team didn't want to trade Gonzalez. The team needed to talk Gonzalez into being part of the new regime. He could have brought so much to the Cassel era. Sure, Kansas City probably wasn't excited that Gonzalez didn't show up for a voluntary minicamp last weekend, but he has missed voluntary camps in the past. Gonzalez said last month he was a "neutral" about a trade. Kansas City didn't have to trade him. This was a bad move by the Chiefs and it was a move that makes it difficult to believe they will be improved in 2009 because of it.
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04-24-2009, 11:53 AM	#32
MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	What? This guy thinks we're gonna win the SB THIS year? Like, we can't wait another year (or 2) to use a #2? Are they gonna suspend the draft next year? A #2 is a #2.
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04-25-2009, 11:05 AM	#40
BigRock Pritay Pritay Pritay Good Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $705412	Did you hear this fat moron on ESPN News? He was completely rambling, going "The Chiefs could take Curry, or Jackson, or maybe Crabtree, and a tackle is possible, and they probably want to trade down" and basically sounding like he didn't have the first idea what he was talking about. But then the topper: he goes "I don't think they know WHAT they want to do." Yes, Bill. It's not that you're a moron. It's that Scott Pioli doesn't know what he wants.
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