FA-22Raptor

[Joe Seahawk]

What a plane


FIRST FA-22 FIGHTERS DELIVERED
TO LANGLEY AIR FORCE BASE.

These are Great In-flight Photos
Of the FA-22 as the first Aircraft
Delivery was being made to Langley
AFB in Va. Langley is to be first
Operational AFB for the FA-22. It is
A very beautiful AFB, located in a
Picturesque location, as you can see
In these photos, near Norfolk and
Hampton, Va.

The Aircraft flying along with the
FA-22 in the last of these photos is
The F-15, which will be replaced by
The FA-22 which is several times
Better.

In Actual In-flight (simulated)
Combat Operations against the F-15,
Two FA-22s were able to operate
Without detection while they went
Head to head against (8) F-15s. The
FA-22s scored Missile Hits (Kills)
Against all the F-15 Aircraft and the
F/A-22s were never detected by
Either the F-15s or Ground Based
Radar. Maj. Gen. Rick Lewis said:
'The Raptor Operated Against All
Adversaries with Virtual Impunity;
Ground Based Systems Couldn't
Engage and NO Adversary Aircraft
Survived'!

FA-22 -- America 's Most Advanced
Fighter Aircraft for the 21st Century!
They're a titanium and carbon fiber
Dagger. They're so advanced that if
Their on-board locator is switched off
Even our own satellites can lose track
Of them. They're the first military
Aircraft ever built that is equipped
With a 'black-out button'. What that
Means is this:
The best conditioned fighter pilots are
Capable of maintaining consciousness
Up to in the vicinity of 15+ G. The
Raptor is capable of making 22+ G
Turns. If someday an adversary builds
A missile that is capable of catching
Up to one of these airplanes and a
Raptor pilot sees that a strike is
Imminent, he hits the 'b.o.b.' and the
Airplane makes a virtual U-turn,
Leaving the missile to pass right on by.

They know that in the process he will
Temporarily lose consciousness, so the
Raptor then automatically comes back
To straight and level flight until he
Wakes back up.

[FishingRod]

Since we came out with the teen series, F-14,15,16 and F-18 we have swept the opposition from the skies in very unfair fights. I like our guys to be on the winning side of unfair fights. Bring on the Raptor!

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by dtebbe

Of coarse what most people don't realize is that a lot of what makes the F-15, F-16, and FA-18 so good are the pilots who fly them. We have the best pilots in the world, hands down. Korea was an important lesson, and we haven't got caught with our pants down since then.

DT

Something else I think people are missing on is we’re basically upgrading old fighter/attack planes to stealth, which means they’re more survivable so “the best pilots in the world” are more likely to make it home to fly another mission.
Personally, I think they deserve the best tools available to accomplish the incredible tasks asked of them.

[Kerberos]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Something else I think people are missing on is we’re basically upgrading old fighter/attack planes to stealth, which means they’re more survivable so “the best pilots in the world” are more likely to make it home to fly another mission.
Personally, I think they deserve the best tools available to accomplish the incredible tasks asked of them.

This

I agree completely

[GoHuge]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Something else I think people are missing on is we’re basically upgrading old fighter/attack planes to stealth, which means they’re more survivable so “the best pilots in the world” are more likely to make it home to fly another mission.
Personally, I think they deserve the best tools available to accomplish the incredible tasks asked of them.

That's exactly why the DOD is stopping the production on the F-22. The F-15 hasn't been defeated in a dog fight and a 22 can take out as many 15's as they have missiles for. DOD is on record saying the F-22 will be the last manned fighter ever made. It already can operate far beyong what the human body can tolerate. There is no military in the world including our allies that could hang with the USA in conventional warfare. That type of fighting against America=Certain Epic FAIL! I didn't agree with doing it, but we smoked Iraqs conventional forces in three weeks! I think it might very well be the last conventional war we might fight other than enforcing a UN/NATO resolution. Lil Kim in NK and the Ayatollah in Iran would do well to look at Iraq and quit the chirping. As Dennis Miller put it Re. this situation"you really want a piece of this motherf**ker?"

Gates is being extremely smart with our military and what gets what funding. Right now our biggest foe is extremeist and guerilla warfare. Seriously when was the last time you heard of a US warplane being shot down? We have had air superiority in every conflict since Korea. In Vietnam we shot down 12 of there jets for everyone lost. Anymore than the 187 F-22's we currently have that can take out 8 F-15's in one engagement (that has never been defeated themselves in a dog fight) is a waste of resources. Our military needs to focus more on the troops on the ground, protecting them, and giving them the very best in offensive and defensive equipment. These are the guys that are fighting and dying. Gates has his priorities in check. I heard a story and several like it of our ground troops spending their own money to help fortify their Humvees. That is sad and inexcuseable. He is getting better armor for our boys and those new Humvees look like their on steroids. I have a tremendous amount of national pride when I see a F-22 or B-2, but nothing makes me prouder or as choked as an American to be in the airport and see a group of soldiers walking off the plane to a standing ovation from everybody in the joint. It's true emotion and gratitude. When you see one of these ladies or gentlemen out and about just walk up shake their hand, and just tell them thanks for their service. It's the least we can do for the baddest equipment in our arsenal .

[Chief Faithful]

One thing the F22 provides that no other plane delivers is super sonic flight without afterburners. This provides unparralled intercept capabilities and distance on a singe tank of fuel. If the US is going to continue to close bases the F22 becomes more important.

The biggest drawback on the F22 is it is primarily an air to air superiority aircraft. It is not designed for ground support so it is limited. So while the F22 has an important role it is not needed in as many numbers as the F15.

I agree with Gates the F35 fills more roles and deserves more funding.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

One thing the F22 provides that no other plane delivers is super sonic flight without afterburners. This provides unparralled intercept capabilities and distance on a singe tank of fuel. If the US is going to continue to close bases the F22 becomes more important.

The biggest drawback on the F22 is it is primarily an air to air superiority aircraft. It is not designed for ground support so it is limited. So while the F22 has an important role it is not needed in as many numbers as the F15.

I agree with Gates the F35 fills more roles and deserves more funding.

That's right..I forgot it has "super cruise".

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Something else I think people are missing on is we’re basically upgrading old fighter/attack planes to stealth, which means they’re more survivable so “the best pilots in the world” are more likely to make it home to fly another mission.
Personally, I think they deserve the best tools available to accomplish the incredible tasks asked of them.

No shit, QFT.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Hi North Korea, say hello to my little friend. BOOM!

That is exactly what I was thing. They are LONG over due for a beat down.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by GoHuge39

That's exactly why the DOD is stopping the production on the F-22. The F-15 hasn't been defeated in a dog fight and a 22 can take out as many 15's as they have missiles for. DOD is on record saying the F-22 will be the last manned fighter ever made. It already can operate far beyong what the human body can tolerate. There is no military in the world including our allies that could hang with the USA in conventional warfare. That type of fighting against America=Certain Epic FAIL! I didn't agree with doing it, but we smoked Iraqs conventional forces in three weeks! I think it might very well be the last conventional war we might fight other than enforcing a UN/NATO resolution. Lil Kim in NK and the Ayatollah in Iran would do well to look at Iraq and quit the chirping. As Dennis Miller put it Re. this situation"you really want a piece of this motherf**ker?"

Gates is being extremely smart with our military and what gets what funding. Right now our biggest foe is extremeist and guerilla warfare. Seriously when was the last time you heard of a US warplane being shot down? We have had air superiority in every conflict since Korea. In Vietnam we shot down 12 of there jets for everyone lost. Anymore than the 187 F-22's we currently have that can take out 8 F-15's in one engagement (that has never been defeated themselves in a dog fight) is a waste of resources. Our military needs to focus more on the troops on the ground, protecting them, and giving them the very best in offensive and defensive equipment. These are the guys that are fighting and dying. Gates has his priorities in check. I heard a story and several like it of our ground troops spending their own money to help fortify their Humvees. That is sad and inexcuseable. He is getting better armor for our boys and those new Humvees look like their on steroids. I have a tremendous amount of national pride when I see a F-22 or B-2, but nothing makes me prouder or as choked as an American to be in the airport and see a group of soldiers walking off the plane to a standing ovation from everybody in the joint. It's true emotion and gratitude. When you see one of these ladies or gentlemen out and about just walk up shake their hand, and just tell them thanks for their service. It's the least we can do for the baddest equipment in our arsenal .

Great post!!