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**Rain Man** · 05:36 PM

A Charles Manson reference in another thread got me thinking about this. Who is the greatest villain in American history, the one that will draw the most ire from any right-thinking American?

Give me some options and I'll put up a poll. Nominees can come from any category: war, politics, crime, business, finance, celebrity, sports, child care, Benetton models, comic strip artists (Bil Keane, anyone?), or others. Give me your best shot.

The rules:

1. We're talking true villainy here. Villainy where you can't really defend anything the person did at a dinner party without getting winces.

2. We're talking national scale. Remember, the kicker that shall go unnamed is a hero in Indianapolis.

3. Real life only. While many may villainize Elmer Fudd for his relentless and brazen murderous stalking of Bugs Bunny, Mr. Fudd does not actually exist, and therefore any villainous acts committed by Mr. Fudd do not exist, either.

4. The villain must be an American citizen, or if their villainy took place before 1783, a resident of the area that would eventually become the United State AND acting against the United States for villainous reasons rather than sincere loyalty to another country in conflict with nascent American liberty movements or peoples and in the absence of a history of loyalty to American causes.

Once I get 20 reasonable candidates, I'll post the poll.

**Gadzooks** · 09-01-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Ed Gein

How dare you. The man only killed 2 people.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-01-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks

How dare you. The man only killed 2 people.

And he was SERIOUSLY, legitimately, mentally fried.

**Gadzooks** · 09-01-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

And he was SERIOUSLY, legitimately, mentally fried.

You would be too if your Dad drank beer.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-01-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks

You would be too if your Dad drank beer.

I'm not following ya' Sparky, you lost me.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-01-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks

How dare you. The man only killed 2 people.

Uh...

**Rain Man** · 09-01-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ

This thread feels sort of awkward now.

And we've hardly begun the discussion of the Richard Speck health care plan.

Frazod · 09-01-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

And we've hardly begun the discussion of the Richard Speck health care plan.

Or the Jeffrey Dahmer deli.

**Rain Man** · 09-02-2009, 12:15 AM

Okay, the nominations stop here. Here is our field of 64.

O.J. Simpson
Bernie Madoff
Timothy McVeigh
Ted Bundy
John Wilkes Booth
The BTK Killer
Benedict Arnold
Jeffrey Dahmer
Andrea Yates
Joseph McCarthy
Ted Kaczynski
Karla Faye Tucker
Charles Manson
David Berkowitz (Son of Sam)
John Wayne Gacy
The Zodiac Killer
The Green River Killer
Jim Jones
James Earl Ray
Ed Gein
Robert Courtney
Boss Tweed
Billy The Kid
Jesse James
Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker
Leona Helmsley
John Dillinger
Fred Phelps
Robert E. Lee
Mark Chapman
Al Capone
David Koresh
Bryant and May
Blanck and Harris
John D. Rockefeller
Lee Harvey Oswald
Julius and Ethel Rosenburg
Nathan Bedford Forrest
Robert Hanssen
Aldrich Ames
John Walker
Bernie Ebbers
Joseph Hazelwood
Jack Kevorkian
Lyndon B. Johnson
Jefferson Davis
Wes Hardin
Henry Wirz
William Calley
Lorena Bobbit
Kenneth Lay
John Brown
Ottis Toole
Lucky Luciano
Carlo Gambino
Robert Oppenheimer
Henry Ford
Henry Lee Lucas
Randy Cunningham
Marshall Applewhite
Leon Czolgosz
Charles J. Guiteau
J. Edgar Hoover
Brigham Young

Frazod · 09-02-2009, 12:39 AM

Heh. All the beakers on this board, and Quantrill didn't make the list? That's pretty funny.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-02-2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Heh. All the beakers on this board, and Quantrill didn't make the list? That's pretty funny.

Are you truly surprised? You're talking about a domination that can never be matched:

Burned to the ground.

Makes my naughty bits tingle just thinking about it.

**Rain Man** · 09-02-2009, 12:48 AM

I'm a little surprised that Jane Fonda wasn't mentioned.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-02-2009, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'm a little surprised that Jane Fonda wasn't mentioned.

Are you kidding?! That's the creatress of the modern-day cougar! That's GoChiefs bread and butter right now!

For shame, Sir. For shame.

munkey · 09-02-2009, 06:20 AM

Jim Jones...sorry if that's a repost...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-02-2009, 09:40 AM

Jesus Jones.

BY1401 · 09-02-2009, 09:56 AM

Great googley moogley.

I can't wait until I have the ability to give rep as there is an overabundance of funny azz chit up in here.

08-31-2009, 05:15 PM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-672449 VARSITY	Who is the greatest American villain? A Charles Manson reference in another thread got me thinking about this. Who is the greatest villain in American history, the one that will draw the most ire from any right-thinking American? Give me some options and I'll put up a poll. Nominees can come from any category: war, politics, crime, business, finance, celebrity, sports, child care, Benetton models, comic strip artists (Bil Keane, anyone?), or others. Give me your best shot. The rules: 1. We're talking true villainy here. Villainy where you can't really defend anything the person did at a dinner party without getting winces. 2. We're talking national scale. Remember, the kicker that shall go unnamed is a hero in Indianapolis. 3. Real life only. While many may villainize Elmer Fudd for his relentless and brazen murderous stalking of Bugs Bunny, Mr. Fudd does not actually exist, and therefore any villainous acts committed by Mr. Fudd do not exist, either. 4. The villain must be an American citizen, or if their villainy took place before 1783, a resident of the area that would eventually become the United State AND acting against the United States for villainous reasons rather than sincere loyalty to another country in conflict with nascent American liberty movements or peoples and in the absence of a history of loyalty to American causes. Once I get 20 reasonable candidates, I'll post the poll. Last edited by Rain Man; 08-31-2009 at 05:36 PM..
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09-02-2009, 12:15 AM	#308
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-672449 VARSITY	Okay, the nominations stop here. Here is our field of 64. O.J. Simpson Bernie Madoff Timothy McVeigh Ted Bundy John Wilkes Booth The BTK Killer Benedict Arnold Jeffrey Dahmer Andrea Yates Joseph McCarthy Ted Kaczynski Karla Faye Tucker Charles Manson David Berkowitz (Son of Sam) John Wayne Gacy The Zodiac Killer The Green River Killer Jim Jones James Earl Ray Ed Gein Robert Courtney Boss Tweed Billy The Kid Jesse James Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker Leona Helmsley John Dillinger Fred Phelps Robert E. Lee Mark Chapman Al Capone David Koresh Bryant and May Blanck and Harris John D. Rockefeller Lee Harvey Oswald Julius and Ethel Rosenburg Nathan Bedford Forrest Robert Hanssen Aldrich Ames John Walker Bernie Ebbers Joseph Hazelwood Jack Kevorkian Lyndon B. Johnson Jefferson Davis Wes Hardin Henry Wirz William Calley Lorena Bobbit Kenneth Lay John Brown Ottis Toole Lucky Luciano Carlo Gambino Robert Oppenheimer Henry Ford Henry Lee Lucas Randy Cunningham Marshall Applewhite Leon Czolgosz Charles J. Guiteau J. Edgar Hoover Brigham Young __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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